JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It never ceases to amaze me how people claim to know the views of around 40,000 people.... 40000 people? I think you've got us and rovers mixed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: 40000 people? I think you've got us and rovers mixed up... I reckon our fanbase numbers around 40,000 - ie the number of people who are City fans....or do you think exactly the same 19k people turn up for every home game and exactly the same people go to every away game?! Have a look at our recent-ish Wembley / Millennium Stadium appearances - who do you think all those people were?! And, even if you think our entire fanbase is, say, 22k people - you still claimed to know the views of every single one of them in your previous post to which I replied... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I reckon our fanbase numbers around 40,000 - ie the number of people who are City fans....or do you think exactly the same 19k people turn up for every home game and exactly the same people go to every away game?! Have a look at our recent-ish Wembley / Millennium Stadium appearances - who do you think all those people were?! And, even if you think our entire fanbase is, say, 22k people - you still claimed to know the views of every single one of them in your previous post to which I replied... I'd say our fan base is at around 25000 maximum. The majority who went to Wembley were plastics who have probably only set foot in ashton gate once. In fact I remember at least 7-8 people who I knew, who had only seen us play once or twice before, going to see us at Wembley, I wouldn't call them fans personally. And anyway, much like you, I was over exaggerating to make a point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, JBFC II said: I'd say our fan base is at around 25000 maximum. The majority who went to Wembley were plastics who have probably only set foot in ashton gate once. In fact I remember at least 7-8 people who I knew, who had only seen us play once or twice before, going to see us at Wembley, I wouldn't call them fans personally. And anyway, much like you, I was over exaggerating to make a point... Rubbish....once again you claim to know everything about every City fan...I know lots of City fans who came back from far and wide to watch us at Wembley etc, not ‘plastics’ (can you define what that means?!) just people who have moved away and cannot attend every home or away game...you really think that the total number of Bristol City fans on this planet totals 25k? And you said ‘maximum’ ?! Not got a clue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think out of all the teams he has played for, we got the best out of him. Could excite and frustrate but my god didn't he have a banger of a shot . He'll do well in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Rubbish....I know lots of City fans who came back from far and wide to watch us at Wembley etc, not ‘plastics’ (can you define what that means?!) just people who have moved away and cannot attend every home or away game...you really think that the total number of Bristol City fans on this planet totals 25k? And you said ‘maximum’ ?! Not got a clue.... Yeh I would. It's a bit like rovers taking 40k to the 2007 play off final, would you say our fan bases are equal? I wouldn't either... Trips to Wembley bring out plastic fans (people who only go to big games) whilst actual fans are the ones who turn up on as regular basis as possible to support the team. I'd argue the amount of city fans based outside of Bristol would only be between 2-4k (and before you jump on that, much like you saying we have 40000 fans it's a complete guess) and so we probably have a maximum fan base (people who if they could, would buy a season ticket or come regularly, of around 25000) If we went into the premier league, stayed there for a few years and ashton gate become a 40000 seater stadium (all theoretical btw) do you think we would sell out every week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Yeh I would. It's a bit like rovers taking 40k to the 2007 play off final, would you say our fan bases are equal? I wouldn't either... Trips to Wembley bring out plastic fans (people who only go to big games) whilst actual fans are the ones who turn up on as regular basis as possible to support the team. I'd argue the amount of city fans based outside of Bristol would only be between 2-4k (and before you jump on that, much like you saying we have 40000 fans it's a complete guess) and so we probably have a maximum fan base (people who if they could, would buy a season ticket or come regularly, of around 25000) If we went into the premier league, stayed there for a few years and ashton gate become a 40000 seater stadium (all theoretical btw) do you think we would sell out every week? Attendances at football matches do not represent the total number of fans each club has....the world is a lot smaller ....people move around and cannot attend every game....you think only “2k to 4K” City fans have ever left Bristol?! You serious?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Attendances at football matches do not represent the total number of fans each club has....the world is a lot smaller ....people move around and cannot attend every game....you think only “2k to 4K” City fans have ever left Bristol?! You serious?! Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice, I doubt there are 5000 plus city fans (unless of course you are still counting people who go to 1 game every five years) living outside of the Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice, I doubt there are 5000 plus city fans (unless of course you are still counting people who go to 1 game every five years) living outside of the Bristol. I take it you live in Bristol and always have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I dont like to side with Mr Argumentative from the Brislington area but he's right on this occasion, our fanbase is way more than 25k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, RumRed said: I take it you live in Bristol and always have? I don’t see what difference that makes. I just seriously doubt, especially when we are having our highest average attendances since the 80s, that 5000 plus city fans (as in people who if lived in Bristol, and could financially afford it, would come regularly) are living outside of the city in other areas of the uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: I don’t see what difference that makes. I just seriously doubt, especially when we are having our highest average attendances since the 80s, that 5000 plus city fans (as in people who if lived in Bristol, and could financially afford it, would come regularly) are living outside of the city in other areas of the uk You need to travel more, you’d see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, RumRed said: You need to travel more, you’d see. I stand corrected then, surprising we don’t average more away then tbh if we have 5000 plus fans around the country plus obviously the 35000 fans living in Bristol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 160k followers on Twitter, who are they if not fans of the club? Be it season ticket holders or 1 game wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice, I doubt there are 5000 plus city fans (unless of course you are still counting people who go to 1 game every five years) living outside of the Bristol. This is one of the most batshit things I have ever read on OTIB, congratulations ( I think ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice, I doubt there are 5000 plus city fans (unless of course you are still counting people who go to 1 game every five years) living outside of the Bristol. You think we only averaged above 15k at home twice in the last 45 years?!!!!!! So, since 1973 you think we’ve only averaged above 15k for two seasons???!!!! Ok, I’ll humour you.....but, take a quick gander at the figures below: 1976 - we averaged over 16k 1977 - we averaged over 24k 1978 - we averaged over 23k 1979 - we averaged over 21k 1980 - we averaged over 18k 2008 - we averaged over 16k 2009 - we averaged over 16k 2016 - we averaged over 15k 2017 - we averaged over 19k 2018 - we averaged over 20k You are talking shite! Have a cider while you do yer homework.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: You think we only averaged above 15k at home twice in the last 45 years?!!!!!! So, since 1973 you think we’ve only averaged above 15k for two seasons???!!!! Ok, I’ll humour you.....but, take a quick gander at the figures below: 1976 - we averaged over 16k 1977 - we averaged over 24k 1978 - we averaged over 23k 1979 - we averaged over 21k 1980 - we averaged over 18k 2008 - we averaged over 16k 2009 - we averaged over 16k 2016 - we averaged over 15k 2017 - we averaged over 19k 2018 - we averaged over 20k You are talking shite! Have a cider while you do yer homework.... Meant to put 35, small typo I do apologise. And if you hadn't half quoted my statement you'll have seen I put until a couple of years ago, as obviously the new stadium has added to the attendances. If we do have 40000 fans, then how come we've only had that as an attendance a handful of times in our 115 year history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Meant to put 35, small typo I do apologise. And if you hadn't half quoted my statement you'll have seen I put until a couple of years ago, as obviously the new stadium has added to the attendances. If we do have 40000 fans, then how come we've only had that as an attendance a handful of times in our 115 year history As I said....the number of fans we have is not represented by our home attendances...we have fans based all over the UK and now around the world....as someone else stated above, our club has 160k followers on Twitter....don’t you think just a few of those may be fans based away from Bristol? Actually I’m tired of this now, no need to reply....you think we only have 25k fans in the whole world, I think we have lots more....you base your argument on home attendances, I argue that not all our fans are able to attend home games given their geographical locations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: As I said....the number of fans we have is not represented by our home attendances...we have fans based all over the UK and now around the world....as someone else stated above, our club has 160k followers on Twitter....don’t you think just a few of those may be fans based away from Bristol? Actually I’m tired of this now, no need to reply....you think we only have 25k fans in the whole world, I think we have lots more....you base your argument on home attendances, I argue that not all our fans are able to attend home games given their geographical locations.... So you think that there are 40000 people, who if they could, would attend city games on a regular basis? And twitter followers is the worst way of counting fans, do you think rovers have 80000 fans? Or manor farm have 3500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Meant to put 35, small typo I do apologise. And if you hadn't half quoted my statement you'll have seen I put until a couple of years ago, as obviously the new stadium has added to the attendances. If we do have 40000 fans, then how come we've only had that as an attendance a handful of times in our 115 year history Great backtrack! Even if you meant to put ‘35 years’ - we still averaged over 15k in five seasons over that period....so you were still incorrect....good grief....give up....we’ve got more fans than you think we have!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Great backtrack! Even if you meant to put ‘35 years’ - we still averaged over 15k in five seasons over that period....so you were still incorrect....good grief....give up....we’ve got more fans than you think we have!!! And again, only answering some of my post, whilst conveniently missing out the rest of it. The crux of the matter is though that you think there are 40000, people who, if they could, would be regular supporters at ashton gate. Which personally I thi k is complete rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, JBFC II said: So you think that there are 40000 people, who if they could, would attend city games on a regular basis? And twitter followers is the worst way of counting fans, do you think rovers have 80000 fans? Or manor farm have 3500? Nooooo! Why are you obsessed with ‘people attending games’ ?! I have only talked about our fanbase....that is the number of Bristol City fans that exist in this world....they cannot all attend games because some of them live in Australia etc....we’ve probably got more than 40k people around the world who would say they are Bristol City fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: And again, only answering some of my post, whilst conveniently missing out the rest of it. The crux of the matter is though that you think there are 40000, people who, if they could, would be regular supporters at ashton gate. Which personally I thi k is complete rubbish I did not leave out any of your post.....you said we have only averaged above 15k at home twice in the last 45 years....I proved you wrong...and you can’t handle it....45 years or 35 years ....you are still wrong! Aaaarrrrggghhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Nooooo! Why are you obsessed with ‘people attending games’ ?! I have only talked about our fanbase....that is the number of Bristol City fans that exist in this world....they cannot all attend games because some of them live in Australia etc....we’ve probably got more than 40k people around the world who would say they are Bristol City fans... I'd argue that a fan is somebody who if they could would regularly attend a teams matches. How would you describe a fan may I ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I did not leave out any of your post.....you said we have only averaged above 15k at home twice in the last 45 years....I proved you wrong...and you can’t handle it....45 years or 35 years ....you are still wrong! Aaaarrrrggghhh! 'Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice' That's the start of my post, are you sure you haven't missed any of it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Seriously you two put a sock in it. Argue in private chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, JBFC II said: I'd argue that a fan is somebody who if they could would regularly attend a teams matches. How would you describe a fan may I ask? I think a ‘supporter’ attends games - ie they ‘support’ the club financially - a fan also loves the club but can’t necessarily attend - fan is short for ‘fanatic’.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I think a ‘supporter’ attends games - ie they ‘support’ the club financially - a fan also loves the club but can’t necessarily attend - fan is short for ‘fanatic’.... Fair enough, makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, JBFC II said: 'Considering that until a couple of years ago we had averaged above 15000 in 45 years only twice' That's the start of my post, are you sure you haven't missed any of it out? Ok, given that, you are still wrong....you said that ‘before the last couple of seasons we had only averaged above 15k twice in the last 45 years...’ - when you were proved incorrect on that you claimed you’d made a typo and you meant to say 35 years...but you were still incorrect in that time frame too....just accept it, you got your triumphant average crowds stat woefully incorrect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Ok, given that, you are still wrong....you said that ‘before the last couple of seasons we had only averaged above 15k twice in the last 45 years...’ - when you were proved incorrect on that you claimed you’d made a typo and you meant to say 35 years...but you were still incorrect in that time frame too....just accept it, you got your triumphant average crowds stat woefully incorrect... Between 1981 and 2016 (35 years) we only averaged above 15k twice. In 2008 and 09. I don't quite see where that is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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