PFree Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I get why SL wants to run City as a business, it isn't a Charity after all. That' said if City is his real passion as he suggests, I do wonder why he doesn't go after that Premiership dream whilst he still has his youth and health? I've followed City for over 30 years and been a ST for most of those but being honest, I try not to expect anything going into a season as at least then I am never too disappointed! What saddens me most is to see home grown and developed youngsters leaving as they too don't see us reaching the promised land anytime soon (If ever). It's great that we invest in the "talent of tomorrow", it helps balance the books as far as possible but will it realistically ever get us to the ultimate level? I look at what Leeds and Forest have done in the closed season and having seen what Wolves did the season, I can't help but be envious of how excited their f as must be. Okay, you can't buy success but on the balance of probability, it certainly significantly improves your chances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I’m excited. I quite like our summer businesses. Players who didn’t want to stay have been shifted on for good money. We’ve signed players to fit our style, to add to those we already have and we will hopefully see a few with “potential” stepping up this season. We have tied a few more players down to long contracts and overall I’m looking forward to the season. Especially without having to tolerate seeing Pisano in the team regularly..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 It is possible to be sustainable and competitive. We are getting closer and pretty soon we will be able to sustain ourselves with a sale per summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 In of the last interviews before the end of the season LJ said he would bring in "steel". To much up and downs during last season let us down. He was going to adress it. It has not happened. Maybe he forgot about it. Maybe Sugar Dad was not interested. I don't know. It will be a very hard season. We will also miss Bobby Reid massively. Geniously setting up our offensive play at one touch, scoring for fun and planting the ball on Diedehious head for many goals. Hopefully very tired legs yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 The Bristol Sport idiots need to wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 The set up yesterday was to stretched. You can not work together as a unit split up over 80 meters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, PFree said: I get why SL wants to run City as a business, it isn't a Charity after all. That' said if City is his real passion as he suggests, I do wonder why he doesn't go after that Premiership dream whilst he still has his youth and health? I've followed City for over 30 years and been a ST for most of those but being honest, I try not to expect anything going into a season as at least then I am never too disappointed! What saddens me most is to see home grown and developed youngsters leaving as they too don't see us reaching the promised land anytime soon (If ever). It's great that we invest in the "talent of tomorrow", it helps balance the books as far as possible but will it realistically ever get us to the ultimate level? I look at what Leeds and Forest have done in the closed season and having seen what Wolves did the season, I can't help but be envious of how excited their f as must be. Okay, you can't buy success but on the balance of probability, it certainly significantly improves your chances? 10 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: The Bristol Sport idiots need to wake up He's tried throwing money at the problem and got burned. The club have been completely open and clear about how they are trading currently and going forward, so I am not quite sure why anyone would be disappointed when they follow that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: He's tried throwing money at the problem and got burned. The club have been completely open and clear about how they are trading currently and going forward, so I am not quite sure why anyone would be disappointed when they follow that path. I'm not disappointed. That's exactly what LJ said in an interview. More surprised and once again holding my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 The problem is that the Bristol Sport idiots don't know anything about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: The problem is that the Bristol Sport idiots don't know anything about football I am really surprised at you Tommy, you spend so much time telling us that the money in English football doesn't get reflected in the quality of it, and yet you want this club to start throwing money around as if we are one of the Premiership Millionaires club. We aren't, we wont, so why are you surprised about it when it doesn't happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I am really surprised at you Tommy, you spend so much time telling us that the money in English football doesn't get reflected in the quality of it, and yet you want this club to start throwing money around as if we are one of the Premiership Millionaires club. We aren't, we wont, so why are you surprised about it when it doesn't happen? I don't wan't the club to "throw away money". I wan't the club to adress the managers very clear concern. It won't cost loads. If you know your football. Bristol Sport are totally inept and should be closed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: I don't wan't the club to "throw away money". I wan't the club to adress the managers very clear concern. It won't cost loads. If you know your football. Bristol Sport are totally inept and should be closed down. What clear concern? If it's that easy then why do 99% of teams struggle to get it right? You do realise that Bristol Sport is basically the Lansdowns right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: What clear concern? If it's that easy then why do 99% of teams struggle to get it right? You do realise that Bristol Sport is basically the Lansdowns right? We were going to bring in "steel". The reason for to many up and downs last season was missing it. This has not happened. Lansdown call himself "advisor". He don't know anything about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: We were going to bring in "steel". The reason for to many up and downs last season was missing it. This has not happened. Lansdown call himself "advisor". He don't know anything about football. OK. Point me at the hundreds of Chairman who have any football knowledge, they don't have it, that's why they employ others to do that side of things. I think it's easy to set 100's of miles away across the sea, in a different country and criticise. You know nothing of the workings of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: I don't wan't the club to "throw away money". I wan't the club to adress the managers very clear concern. It won't cost loads. If you know your football. Bristol Sport are totally inept and should be closed down. yes....yes it would, to sign the players required to mount a promotion challenge in this league would cost about 40 to 50 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Let's give up and be total shit for another 120 years. Nothing is possible in Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I get what Tommy is saying. LJ came out saying we lacked real leaders when we went on a bad run. I can't see where he has added that 'steel' over the summer. I don't know the new players very well though tbh. Maybe he thinks Hunt or Webster are leaders but that hasn't come across as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: Let's give up and be total shit for another 120 years. Nothing is possible in Bristol. or continue with year on year improvements buying young, developing and sell at a profit which in turn is reinvested to buy better young players develop them and sell for a greater profit, you know like the club has done for 4 or 5 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Monkeh said: or continue with year on year improvements buying young, developing and sell at a profit which in turn is reinvested to buy better young players develop them and sell for a greater profit, you know like the club has done for 4 or 5 years now We won't get that "steel" from the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xspence Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: or continue with year on year improvements buying young, developing and sell at a profit which in turn is reinvested to buy better young players develop them and sell for a greater profit, you know like the club has done for 4 or 5 years now Completely agree. Improved league position for last 4 seasons. Our weakness was lack of championship games experience and we have addressed that along with adding height in the midfield area. The younger players (like Eliasson) will also be a year better. Would I prefer bobby was still here? Yes of course. But lots of reasons for optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: We won't get that "steel" from the academy we have in the past we've also developed a number of players recently attracting interest, perhaps you've heard of joe bryan and booby reid, or maybe enland youth international lloyd Kelly or promising Centre back Zak Vyner #' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, JonDolman said: So basically you would like us to do something like spend 6 million on a 30 year old Lewis Grabban on a 4 year contract. Breaking our wage structure, with no value to sell on as he gets older. Probably be stuck with him past his best at about 32 with 2 more years to run and no one interested in signing him. Or do we back our judgment in the transfer market that Andi Weimann is in fact a striker and has been played out of position the last 5 years, and Mo Eisa has the ability to replicate at championship level what he did in league two. I am using Grabban as an example of what we'd be doing if we chuck money at it buying the best in the division. I would like the manager to adress his concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: So basically you would like us to do something like spend 6 million on a 30 year old Lewis Grabban on a 4 year contract. Breaking our wage structure, with no value to sell on as he gets older. Probably be stuck with him past his best at about 32 with 2 more years to run and no one interested in signing him. Or do we back our judgment in the transfer market that Andi Weimann is in fact a striker and has been played out of position the last 5 years, and Mo Eisa has the ability to replicate at championship level what he did in league two. I am using Grabban as an example of what we'd be doing if we chuck money at it buying the best in the division. Sorry - is Grabban a good example of a leader of men , someone who will add steel to the team? That is his point I think. Maybe a more experienced player will be obviously older but one older head may help. They tried it with GON which didn't work but maybe we do need someone of that ilk. My suspicion is LJ feels threatened or undermined by experienced players and that is partly why we aren't going down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: we have in the past we've also developed a number of players recently attracting interest, perhaps you've heard of joe bryan and booby reid, or maybe enland youth international lloyd Kelly or promising Centre back Zak Vyner #' We missed that "steel" last season remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Why do I need to give examples of leader of men? I am replying to the OP who says about splashing out the cash to try and get promoted. Fair enough! I got sidetracked by our swedish friend and thought you were responding to his comments. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Monkeh said: we have in the past we've also developed a number of players recently attracting interest, perhaps you've heard of joe bryan and booby reid, or maybe enland youth international lloyd Kelly or promising Centre back Zak Vyner Booby Reid at Bristol City- surely not?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 One of the criticisms of the England team was that they lacked leaders on the pitch. However, without then so called "big names" of the previous golden generation, we saw a young squad, most of whom have grown up through the junior England set ups together, What this gave us was a proper team , playing for each other and the manager, with whom most have developed as England players. There are a lot of similarities with us. Through the academy set up and our player strategy we are building a young squad developing together, and hopefully this will mean that they want to play for each other . Others have commented that a few of these players have developed very well under LJ's coaching, so it is not impossible that they will want to play for him. Perhaps also like England, we do need that one experienced player, probably in midfield, to provide leadership out on the pitch and help with game management, but perhaps that player is already here and will develop this attributes on the pitch. A Paul Hartley type player would be the ideal, but was he born as the midfield general he was when here, or did he develop those attributes through his on pitch experience? Perhaps we have that type of player already here, and he just needs to develop leadership on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said: In of the last interviews before the end of the season LJ said he would bring in "steel". To much up and downs during last season let us down. He was going to adress it. It has not happened. Maybe he forgot about it. Maybe Sugar Dad was not interested. I don't know. It will be a very hard season. We will also miss Bobby Reid massively. Geniously setting up our offensive play at one touch, scoring for fun and planting the ball on Diedehious head for many goals. Hopefully very tired legs yesterday How do you know he hasn’t addressed it..? If we have less “ups & downs” this season, then his signings will have complimented what we have, to do exactly what he required from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Let's give up and be total shit for another 120 years. Nothing is possible in Bristol. W ️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Still think we’re lacking experience and leadership across the whole pitch. I’d like another midfielder without trying to be too greedy? Somebody to steady the ship and gather the players when we’re under pressure. Although they’re terrific footballers, I don’t see Korey, Marlon or Josh fulfilling that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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