Chairman Mao Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Pack is now our most important player. Really rare to have someone with so much quality on the ball in the Championship. Give him runners and he will find the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Is it? I wonder if LJ would agree with you - he played numerous times in the same side as CS. Bet LJ hasn’t tried to sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Pack was simply sublime. He was involved with everything. In terms of leadership he seems to have picked up from where Flinty left off. He is much more influential. That pass for Weimann's goal was simply delicious. As good as & if not better than the ball he laid on a plate for Joe Bryan's Man Utd goal last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Never thought Skuse was crap, but Pack is just a different level. Composure, consistency, passing- he's got it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 He’s the most improved player of the last four years still at the club. Decent footballer and great range of passing. Where Skuse was slightly better was closing players down and not giving them time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Spoons said: Does LJ get any credit for that disguised pass from Marlon? Remember the training video from Marbella.... It was on disguised passing. Marlon has been doing the no-look pass since his Cheltenham days. It’s not a skill LJ has taught him. He May deserve credit for the coaching the movement that goes with it, granted. @Robbored / @Harry - I see little to no similarities in the games of Skuse and Pack. Skuse was a busy, pass short to those more gifted players and just back-up the okay whilst ensuring we kept shape. Pack is a mire Director of the attack with a range of passing. Neither get far enough forward (a similarity) though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Robbored said: Is it? I wonder if LJ would agree with you - he played numerous times in the same side as CS. Are you having a laugh? I hate it when people go all superior on here so apologies in advance but do you actually know anything about football? I was a big Skuse fan and while he and Pack both occupy deep lying midfield positions, Pack’s range of passing is way better - it’s his stand out attribute. It wasn’t Skuse’s and, as you’ve brought LJ into this, I’m 99.9% sure he’d disagree with you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Dredd said: Bet LJ hasn’t tried to sign him CS had just signed an extended contract at Ipswich when City played at Portman Rd last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I’d be quite interested to see Pack play further forward, almost as a 10. I appreciate he hasn’t got the pace or pressing ability that LJ would want there, but imagine the damage he could cause with his passing in that role with Eisa or Weimann playing off him. He can also shoot very well too and might get a few more goals from range. Good in the air too so might get a few headed goals from late runs into the box. I’m thinking a similar sort of role to one Fabregas has played in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/79897/Show/Marlon-Pack https://www.whoscored.com/Players/13667/Show/Cole-Skuse If you look at this and select passing you’ll see stats showing Pack is the better passer and attempts more long balls by quite a margin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonboy Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 15 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Not sure how I was supposed to end the heading, fact or end of ? you get the gist . I've liked him for some time but he has improved year on year, along similar lines to how Flint improved. He has always had more to his game than 'just' a holding MF but even now and then he comes up with a pass that shows his vision, like today. Great pass?? It was just a really poor shot....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, Sturny said: https://www.whoscored.com/Players/79897/Show/Marlon-Pack https://www.whoscored.com/Players/13667/Show/Cole-Skuse If you look at this and select passing you’ll see stats showing Pack is the better passer and attempts more long balls by quite a margin Facts are stubborn things - John Adams Or Robbo might prefer: Facts are stupid things - Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: Facts are stubborn things - John Adams Or Robbo might prefer: Facts are stupid things - Ronald Reagan Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please - Twain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think 4-1-4-1 might actually suit pack in certain games = more space/time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 ....and yet so many on here over the years have whined that Pack ‘never passes the ball forwards’ .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: I’d be quite interested to see Pack play further forward, almost as a 10. I appreciate he hasn’t got the pace or pressing ability that LJ would want there, but imagine the damage he could cause with his passing in that role with Eisa or Weimann playing off him. He can also shoot very well too and might get a few more goals from range. Good in the air too so might get a few headed goals from late runs into the box. I’m thinking a similar sort of role to one Fabregas has played in the past. Not sure about a no10, but certainly not the deep lying role he currently employs either. When he does get on the ball within 30 yards of goal we have many more options...shot, incisive pass etc. 50 yards out is too deep when we have good possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not sure about a no10, but certainly not the deep lying role he currently employs either. When he does get on the ball within 30 yards of goal we have many more options...shot, incisive pass etc. 50 yards out is too deep when we have good possession. I think it could work, but you’d have to use him totally differently to that Reid role behind the forward. More of a typical central attacking midfielder without the emphasis on pressing. Basically the position would maximise his creativity but let’s him focus on that rather than defensive work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think it could work, but you’d have to use him totally differently to that Reid role behind the forward. More of a typical central attacking midfielder without the emphasis on pressing. Basically the position would maximise his creativity but let’s him focus on that rather than defensive work. A bit like a Lansbury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 16 hours ago, Robbored said: Pack does the same job that Cole Skuse did and equally as well but back then some posters simply didn’t rate CS. I wonder if they now rate Pack? Definitely has a better range of passsing than Cole skuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 There are two types of people in this world. Those who know that Marlon is the best footballer at this club and those who don’t know about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Play him upfront and there we have it our new Bobby Reid that’s 10mil Cardiff thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 17 hours ago, Robbored said: Pack does the same job that Cole Skuse did and equally as well but back then some posters simply didn’t rate CS. I wonder if they now rate Pack? 17 hours ago, Robbored said: That a subjective view. I’d argue that there’s nothing between them in terms of what they add to the team. 17 hours ago, Robbored said: Is it? I wonder if LJ would agree with you - he played numerous times in the same side as CS. 17 hours ago, Robbored said: Hey! This is a forum........... If you consider that I’m ‘fishing’ then simply put me on ignore....... In your opinion....... 3 hours ago, Robbored said: CS had just signed an extended contract at Ipswich when City played at Portman Rd last season. Blimey, how many more ex-Skuses have you got lined up? I liked CS too, but it all got a bit stale and stagnant in the end and was time to move on and rejuvenate (shades of Joe Bryans recent situation). So that's enough ex-Skuses for today, it's time to Pack it in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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city1983 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 14 hours ago, cheshire_red said: He’s the most improved player of the last four years still at the club. Decent footballer and great range of passing. Where Skuse was slightly better was closing players down and not giving them time on the ball. I love posts like this, making up traits that skuse simply did not have. Would never close down and harry the opposition. He used to miander around the pitch watching the game go by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 It was a sublime pass, no two ways about it and he is turning into a class(ish) act. However, at the risk of sounding churlish, dare I mention how Pack just let the ball cross the 18 yard box right in front of him that led to Bolton's second goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Marlon Pack good enough to play in the Premier League. Proof? Exhibit A - Granit Xhaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Pack is now one of those midfield maestros that we’ve seen at Ashton gate for years...unfortunately it’s always been on the other team! Always rated him and he’s improved year on year. He’s a vital cog to how we try and play and I hope he remains with us for years to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: Pack is now one of those midfield maestros that we’ve seen at Ashton gate for years...unfortunately it’s always been on the other team! Always rated him and he’s improved year on year. He’s a vital cog to how we try and play and I hope he remains with us for years to come! With a few less Hollywood passes to the wings. Other than that he’s a top player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 23 hours ago, Davefevs said: Was a superb pass. I really rate Marlon....but guilty in second half (only saw a few minutes of first half) of hitting two many long balls out to our left wing that didn’t find their target. Imho, he just needed to keep playing the shorter ball. Completely agree. He plays too many balls that leave the reciever too much to do to keep it in, sometimes the failure to control the pass leaves us under pressure, especially to teams that counter quickly. As they say in golf, play the percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: With a few less Hollywood passes to the wings. Other than that he’s a top player for us. It will be instruction to do so Dave...he'd be bollocked otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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