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Miah Dennehy

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35 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Just tell them you're a mate of mine, they'll let you back in :)

Have you been barred? They don’t seem to like their fans posting on here

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2 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I see he has been rated as the 33rd must influential person in world rugby by Rugby World. Do any of you worry that you may have become a secondary interest to him? Genuine question and not on a wind up, FWIW I think he has enough cash to fund you both so IF rugby is his primary interest it shouldn't worry you too much.

Would love him to invest in British American Football.

 

Our very own Bristol Aztecs could easily be top English club with a bit of investment.

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6 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I very rarely use it tbh, I use the alternative/independent one.

 

Didn’ realise they had two forums, gaschat and what else?

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SL a went to Camp Nou when in Barcelona and expected to find a professional football club. What he  found was an organisation that supported a host of local sport organisations not related to football. His vision is to recreate that, on a smaller scale, in Bristol, hence Bristol Sport. A man with a vision! Great for Bristol City and Bristol in general 

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19 minutes ago, harrys said:

All the rugby players I know are fat thugs

I'm sure that counts for hundreds of rugby players then? Because you probably know 2-3 people who have played/ play rugby, doesn't mean every rugby player is exactly the same

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13 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

I'm sure that counts for hundreds of rugby players then? Because you probably know 2-3 people who have played/ play rugby, doesn't mean every rugby player is exactly the same

No mate, i’ve known hundreds over the years, I drink regularly in a South Bristol rugby club, they take great pride in their thuggish behaviour 

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2 minutes ago, harrys said:

No mate, i’ve known hundreds over the years, I drink regularly in a South Bristol rugby club, they take great pride in their thuggish behaviour 

So if you take no interest in rugby, and see all rugby players as thugs, why do you drink at a rugby club?

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1 minute ago, JBFC II said:

So if you take no interest in rugby, and see all rugby players as thugs, why do you drink at a rugby club?

Brought up with them all and went to a rugby mad school (hence St. Bernadette old boys)

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3 minutes ago, harrys said:

Brought up with them all and went to a rugby mad school (hence St. Bernadette old boys)

Fair enough, never met any rugby player/fan who I'd describe as a thug (the same can't be said for footballers/football fans), however I guess it all depends on in what capacity you meet them

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1 minute ago, JBFC II said:

Fair enough, never met any rugby player/fan who I'd describe as a thug (the same can't be said for footballers/football fans), however I guess it all depends on in what capacity you meet them

True enough, I also saw enough of Bath fans to know that a lot of rugby supporters are morons as well, an example was going up to the Millwall game on the train last season while Bath were playing Leicester at Twickenham, their behaviour was on a par with anything i’ve seen on a train with City fans

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3 hours ago, rockinredrobin said:

More worried he thinks he can get promotion on the cheap by selling our best players and replacing with low cost cheaper options

Then he goes on 20man and says he hasn’t demanded promotion this season but has told LJ he’s not getting any younger !

He has the funds to do a Wolves at the drop of a hat and then would get his investment back in TV money over 3 years it wouldn’t cost him a dime 

I just can’t understand what his motives are anymore 

In the meantime LJ is bulletproof as all he has to do is coach the players that are provided under Steve Ls rules 

Could not agree more.

If self sustainability is required, and I agree it should be, get promoted, try to stay there on a sensible budget, either way if we fail £ 120m in the bank.

Maybe I am missing something, but this dream of a team made up of Academy Players and lower league bargains storming the Championship is utter farce - it simply won't happen.

The Championship is the 5th biggest league in the world.......as a club we are either being utterly niave or being somewhat duplicutous in our ambition.

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2 hours ago, JBFC II said:

Firstly, if you run into someone whilst playing rugby, the likelihood is you will get tackled back, therefore players need to use quick feet and sidestep their way past n opponent, at pace with only a few metres between you and your  is an incredibly difficult skill, especially if you are running towards a 6 ft 4, 18 stone giant. Carrying the ball in one arm, without dropping it is also a difficult skill when running at speed. 

Secondly, you don’t ‘chuck’ the ball, unlike football where you can play a flat pass anywhere across the pitch, in rugby you have to pass backwards, using an immense amount of spin to make sure the ball doesn’t get intercepted, or you can kick the ball looking for territory, which basically means running at speed towards an opponent and then in a matter of seconds dropping the ball onto your foot and finding a tactical place to put it without giving the opposition an easy run back at you, again an incredibly difficult skill that only an elite group of players can master. 

Even that brief moment, of receiving the ball, then either taking it into contact, or passing/kicking it, is highly skilful, much more skilful than receiving a football and playing a pass

😂😂😂 incredibly difficult skill 😂😂😂 not running with a ball at your feet are you. Get a grip ffs mate . Some of the statements you’ve made on here are proper hilarious . As I said . Sign your name , now do it with your foot . 

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24 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

😂😂😂 incredibly difficult skill 😂😂😂 not running with a ball at your feet are you. Get a grip ffs mate . Some of the statements you’ve made on here are proper hilarious . As I said . Sign your name , now do it with your foot . 

Walk up a flight of stairs ...now do it on your hands....not sure why your ‘sign your name’ comparison is relevant to sport at all...

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2 hours ago, JBFC II said:

Firstly, if you run into someone whilst playing rugby, the likelihood is you will get tackled back, therefore players need to use quick feet and sidestep their way past n opponent, at pace with only a few metres between you and your  is an incredibly difficult skill, especially if you are running towards a 6 ft 4, 18 stone giant. Carrying the ball in one arm, without dropping it is also a difficult skill when running at speed. 

Secondly, you don’t ‘chuck’ the ball, unlike football where you can play a flat pass anywhere across the pitch, in rugby you have to pass backwards, using an immense amount of spin to make sure the ball doesn’t get intercepted, or you can kick the ball looking for territory, which basically means running at speed towards an opponent and then in a matter of seconds dropping the ball onto your foot and finding a tactical place to put it without giving the opposition an easy run back at you, again an incredibly difficult skill that only an elite group of players can master. 

Even that brief moment, of receiving the ball, then either taking it into contact, or passing/kicking it, is highly skilful, much more skilful than receiving a football and playing a pass

I've heard this dribble spouted before from the rugger lot. It is the biggest load of tosh I've ever heard. Of course, in football you don't have to run, or pass when running, or control a ball when running, or with the added possibility that someone might try and stop you doing that, and, this is all done with the foot, not the two things you have right in front of your eyes which you learn to use from day one of your life. It's a snobbery thing preached in the colleges and universities, that rugger is for the superior beings, played by superior beings.     PRATT

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39 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

😂😂😂 incredibly difficult skill 😂😂😂 not running with a ball at your feet are you. Get a grip ffs mate . Some of the statements you’ve made on here are proper hilarious . As I said . Sign your name , now do it with your foot . 

Why don’t you try kicking a ball into a 5 metre square area, whilst being approached by men trying to smash into you. I’d imagine you may struggle...

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3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Genuine answer: no. His primary interest is the football. By all accounts he's not even especially knowledgeable on rugby. Chris Booy runs the rugby side of things. 

It's still possible he gets the bug for it I suppose, maybe if Bristol became very successful, but that's unlikely in the near future I suspect.

If he sniffs glory with Bristol, he may change his tune.  They're more likely to be successful for a number of reasons.  One of them being his family's willingness to let rugby people run the rugby club.

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4 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

SL once said in an interview that IF it were possible for City to play Bristol Rugby he would support City .

Looks like Korey fancied giving it a try last night... -when he went looking for a scrum.  

Hand ball, free kick, goal! …. bloody idiot.

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9 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Why don’t you try kicking a ball into a 5 metre square area, whilst being approached by men trying to smash into you. I’d imagine you may struggle...

What like, between two sticks? Give up mate, you're making a fool of yourself. And if you ask, yes, I have played both sports. It's much harder to control a ball with your feet than with your hands, no matter what the shape is, or if someone is charging down on you. 

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2 hours ago, boatman said:

Would love him to invest in British American Football.

 

Our very own Bristol Aztecs could easily be top English club with a bit of investment.

 ….. couldn't 'Bear' that.

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21 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Why don’t you try kicking a ball into a 5 metre square area, whilst being approached by men trying to smash into you. I’d imagine you may struggle...

Frank doesn’t have a problem

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39 minutes ago, Rich said:

What like, between two sticks? Give up mate, you're making a fool of yourself. And if you ask, yes, I have played both sports. It's much harder to control a ball with your feet than with your hands, no matter what the shape is, or if someone is charging down on you. 

Having played both sports myself, I found rugby to be much more demanding physically and technically. To kick an oval shaped ball into a certain area from your hands is much harder than to kick a round shaped ball from the ground, that's obvious. And kicking is only 15% of rugby, whereas it is 95% of football, hence making rugby more skilful 

32 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Frank doesn’t have a problem

With a circular ball, would love to see him do the same with an oval... 

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4 hours ago, JBFC II said:

Why don’t you try kicking a ball into a 5 metre square area, whilst being approached by men trying to smash into you. I’d imagine you may struggle...

Yep, we all would, but at the professional levels of the two Sports some are better at doing it than others.  Just like asking a pro footballer to hit a 50 yard pass into a 5 metre square too.  Kicking out of hands is a different technique too.

Beckham and Wilkinson reversed roles for an Adidas-shoot, and because both were talented ball-players, they didn’t do too badly at the other’s specialisms - Beckham slotting it over the posts from 40/50m, Wilkinson curling free-kicks over a wall into the net.

To suggest the examples you provided are more skilful than seen in football is rubbish.  It has its own skill level requirements like football does.

Football has what I would call more moving ball skill, the ball is rarely stationery in relation to the player.  In rugby, aside from taking a pass or a kick, the ball is held by the player.  I totally understand the being chased down by a player who can tackle you anywhere from head down using his arms.  That’s where the pressure is created, and that’s why pro players don’t consistently hit that 5m square you referred.  To suggest they hit it every time under pressure is crap.  To suggest that ‘we try it.....’ is trying to compare us with Johnny Wilkinson.  How do you compare to David Beckham?

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9 hours ago, The Bard said:

If he sniffs glory with Bristol, he may change his tune.  They're more likely to be successful for a number of reasons.  One of them being his family's willingness to let rugby people run the rugby club.

True. Though he hasn't managed to employ the right rugby people, up until now at least.

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16 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I see he has been rated as the 33rd must influential person in world rugby by Rugby World. Do any of you worry that you may have become a secondary interest to him? Genuine question and not on a wind up, FWIW I think he has enough cash to fund you both so IF rugby is his primary interest it shouldn't worry you too much.

Rugby, being the least expensive option is the easiest route to personal glory, so I have no doubt that if Bristol regains its place at the very top table of English rugby it will be his priority. Having said that, because of the salary cap and the fact that if Bristol (Bears ffs) are a success it will be pretty well self sufficient, I don't see him reducing his financial commitment to the football club.

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16 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I see he has been rated as the 33rd must influential person in world rugby by Rugby World. Do any of you worry that you may have become a secondary interest to him? Genuine question and not on a wind up, FWIW I think he has enough cash to fund you both so IF rugby is his primary interest it shouldn't worry you too much.

Does it concern you that you appear to be a secondary interest to your owners, who don’t have enough cash to fund anything..?

Well, actually, they have had some money for the past 2 years, by mortgaging your one and only asset, which is not safely secured against what they’ve spent. 

So anyway.... carry on. You were asking if we were concerned about our owners intentions...?! 

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13 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Walk up a flight of stairs ...now do it on your hands....not sure why your ‘sign your name’ comparison is relevant to sport at all...

You don’t walk on your hands though do you . It’s very easy to sign your name , it’s natural to do it with your hands as is carrying things , like a odd shaped ball. Not very easy with your feet though, hence the comparison. 

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18 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

I see he has been rated as the 33rd must influential person in world rugby by Rugby World. Do any of you worry that you may have become a secondary interest to him? Genuine question and not on a wind up, FWIW I think he has enough cash to fund you both so IF rugby is his primary interest it shouldn't worry you too much.

Good question 

but what about your owners 

how do you feel about them 

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22 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

You don’t walk on your hands though do you . It’s very easy to sign your name , it’s natural to do it with your hands as is carrying things , like a odd shaped ball. Not very easy with your feet though, hence the comparison. 

And you don’t sign your name with your feet...but you do walk up stairs on your feet, it’s as natural as, say, kicking something...hence the comparison.

You chose an action that it is easy to do with your hands but not with your feet (signing your name) and I replied with an action that is easy to do with your feet but not with your hands (walking up stairs) to show that your comparison is not really relevant as an example to compare the sports of rugby and football..

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9 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

And you don’t sign your name with your feet...but you do walk up stairs on your feet, it’s as natural as, say, kicking something...hence the comparison.

You chose an action that it is easy to do with your hands but not with your feet (signing your name) and I replied with an action that is easy to do with your feet but not with your hands (walking up stairs) to show that your comparison is not really relevant as an example to compare the sports of rugby and football..

Different sports with some common skill sets.

Its no accident that most of the kids at school who are good at football, are also good at rugby.

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5 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

And you don’t sign your name with your feet...but you do walk up stairs on your feet, it’s as natural as, say, kicking something...hence the comparison.

You chose an action that it is easy to do with your hands but not with your feet (signing your name) and I replied with an action that is easy to do with your feet but not with your hands (walking up stairs) to show that your comparison is not really relevant as an example to compare the sports of rugby and football..

You’re thinking a bit too deep to be honest mate. I’m just emphasising the difference between running with a oval ball in you’re arms running with a ball at you’re feet. 

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On 15/08/2018 at 12:18, Miah Dennehy said:

I see he has been rated as the 33rd must influential person in world rugby by Rugby World. Do any of you worry that you may have become a secondary interest to him? Genuine question and not on a wind up, FWIW I think he has enough cash to fund you both so IF rugby is his primary interest it shouldn't worry you too much.

They will always have a home. One day he will buy the gates as the ground is not a memorial apparently. 

No is the answer to your question. 

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18 hours ago, JBFC II said:

Having played both sports myself, I found rugby to be much more demanding physically and technically. To kick an oval shaped ball into a certain area from your hands is much harder than to kick a round shaped ball from the ground, that's obvious. And kicking is only 15% of rugby, whereas it is 95% of football, hence making rugby more skilful 

With a circular ball, would love to see him do the same with an oval... 

With all due respect, the fact you found rugby more demanding physically and technically is probably more to do with your attributes. Dropping a ball, no matter what shape onto your running foot and kicking it into an area of a pitch, is not quite the same as passing a ball accurately to another person who might or might not be moving at a different rate, baring in mind they have to be able to collect that ball, usually with their feet. In rugby there are probably seven of the fifteen players that rarely touch the ball during a game. 

Using percentages as you have to so say prove a point, has actually backfired on you. You state that kicking an oval ball is difficult (it aint) and state that it's only 15% of the game, so obviously the rest of the game (85%) is played using your hands, the most dexterous limbs you have. Yet kicking a round ball is easy and 95% of football. Were you an England international footballer?

Do me a favour, pick up a rugby ball and run across a pitch with it in your hands. Then run across the same pitch with a football, but using your feet.

I used to play Sunday football with a couple of Clifton Rugby first teamers, it wasn't a high standard but, they both couldn't take the amount of running during a football game 90 mins plus, compared to the constant rests they got in a rugby game of 80 mins.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking rugby, it has certain skills obviously, such as the passing (using your hands) and catching (using your hands) but those skills pale into insignificance when compared to using your feet predominantly, to collect and move a ball, accurately from one person to another, at great speed while someone else is trying to stop that happening, then you have to try and get it into a relatively small net, which has someone that can use their hands to stop you. A bit different than carrying a ball over a 80+ yard wide line or, kicking it between two posts with no giant there to stop the ball.

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On 15/08/2018 at 18:30, Red-Robbo said:

Lansdown joins Bristol City board 1996 and became chairman and majority owner within 5 years.

He bought the rugby club in 2012, and has invested nowhere near as much.

I don't see him as being "rugby first" at all.

Has he been here that long?

Good grief, that’s a lot of windows 

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There's a lot of nonsense in this thread and no doubt the gas(?) poster that started this is laughing as ignorant, toxic argumenrs rein supreme. Athletes at the top of sports like soccer, rugby union, rugby league, American football, and so on are all roughly equally skilled in their specialist fields. One isn't outright more skilful than the other.

That said Bristol RFC played a game versus Rovers in 03/04, one half touch union and one half soccer. Bristol won the rugby and drew with the gas at football. No idea what division they were in then but that should demonstrate that professional rugby players were skilful then and the game in general has got even more so since those days.

Stop giving the OP what they wanted.😉

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7 hours ago, Coombsy said:

Good question 

but what about your owners 

how do you feel about them 

I'm ambivalent. Owners come and go, you are lucky in that respect as I think the Lansdown family are more likely to be long term owners than most.

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