Londoner Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Lee Johnson you have done a great job in stabilising our championship status, in helping us become a standard club for this division and for helping youth develop and become first team regulars, for that you deserve massive credit. However, the next step for us is to push and progress to the next level, play off candidates and a reputation for being s top championship team....unfortunately you do not know how to help us progress. We are on another poor run, 3 wins in 20 odd games, you don't know your best formation, you don't know your best starting co, you don't know how to utilise players in their best positions, and ultimately you do not have the knowledge or nouse to create an identity leading to success. The difference between you and others is obvious. Look at Warnock, real identity with success, look at Dean Smith, outstanding football on a shoe string budget and playoff contenders again. Lee Johnson will never be accepted as Bristol City manager unless we reach the play offs. The toxic negativity from the Rotherham game shows that when things go wrong the fans will go for him. Steve, let him Go, and do your best to get Dean Smith into this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 dream on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: dream on ! Agree or disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinnionForEngland Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Very few or nobody will agree, you can't say anything negative or realistic otherwise you arn' t a real fan and instead you're part of the problem, that's why I rarely bother posting anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Londoner said: Agree or disagree? I know this is a forum but the topic of Mr Johnson going at any stage of the season, let alone August is a bit daft to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Londoner said: Lee Johnson you have done a great job in stabilising our championship status, in helping us become a standard club for this division and for helping youth develop and become first team regulars, for that you deserve massive credit. However, the next step for us is to push and progress to the next level, play off candidates and a reputation for being s top championship team....unfortunately you do not know how to help us progress. We are on another poor run, 3 wins in 20 odd games, you don't know your best formation, you don't know your best starting co, you don't know how to utilise players in their best positions, and ultimately you do not have the knowledge or nouse to create an identity leading to success. The difference between you and others is obvious. Look at Warnock, real identity with success, look at Dean Smith, outstanding football on a shoe string budget and playoff contenders again. Lee Johnson will never be accepted as Bristol City manager unless we reach the play offs. The toxic negativity from the Rotherham game shows that when things go wrong the fans will go for him. Steve, let him Go, and do your best to get Dean Smith into this club. Not all of them. Some consider the good he's done and realise there will be bad days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 This will get a few bites for sure. You must be fishing Are you not willing to give LJ atleast 15 games into the season before sacking should be considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Londoner said: Lee Johnson you have done a great job in stabilising our championship status, in helping us become a standard club for this division and for helping youth develop and become first team regulars, for that you deserve massive credit. However, the next step for us is to push and progress to the next level, play off candidates and a reputation for being s top championship team....unfortunately you do not know how to help us progress. We are on another poor run, 3 wins in 20 odd games, you don't know your best formation, you don't know your best starting co, you don't know how to utilise players in their best positions, and ultimately you do not have the knowledge or nouse to create an identity leading to success. The difference between you and others is obvious. Look at Warnock, real identity with success, look at Dean Smith, outstanding football on a shoe string budget and playoff contenders again. Lee Johnson will never be accepted as Bristol City manager unless we reach the play offs. The toxic negativity from the Rotherham game shows that when things go wrong the fans will go for him. Steve, let him Go, and do your best to get Dean Smith into this club. how many promotions has Dean smith got at Brentford? and walsall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: how many promotions has Deam smith got at Brentford? and walsall? Don't understand your point. Someone hasn't got promoted therefore they aren't good enough by your theory 4 minutes ago, Sturny said: This will get a few bites for sure. You must be fishing Are you not willing to give LJ atleast 15 games into the season before sacking should be considered? At a push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Not all of them. Some consider the good he's done and realise there will be bad days. Bad 8 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 I think the majority of what's required for success is there, both on and off the pitch. The problem is consistancy. It seems every season our form is in total contrast one half to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Londoner said: Don't understand your point. Someone hasn't got promoted therefore they aren't good enough by your theory At a push. not the point, you want some one to come in to push us for promtion and suggest Dean Smith, I ask what promotions has he got under his belt, 2015/16 Brentford finished 9th 2016/17 Brentford finished 10th 2017/18 Brentford finished 9th How is dean smith an upgrade, he's just the same type of coach lee johnson is but with out the hate johnson gets for simply being lee johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: not the point, you want some one to come in to push us for promtion and suggest Dean Smith, I ask what promotions has he got under his belt, 2015/16 Brentford finished 9th 2016/17 Brentford finished 10th 2017/18 Brentford finished 9th How is dean smith an upgrade, he's just the same type of coach lee johnson is but with out the hate johnson gets for simply being lee johnson I know some people on here struggle to grasp football, but you do take it to another level. I will sum it up in one word for you "over achieve". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sturny said: This will get a few bites for sure. You must be fishing Are you not willing to give LJ atleast 15 games into the season before sacking should be considered? Ffs he's had 8 months of poop performances and still hasnt turned it round.....we are probably worse than we were in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Londoner said: I know some people on here struggle to grasp football, but you do take it to another level. I will sum it up in one word for you "over achieve". Nice diversion away from the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: not the point, you want some one to come in to push us for promtion and suggest Dean Smith, I ask what promotions has he got under his belt, 2015/16 Brentford finished 9th 2016/17 Brentford finished 10th 2017/18 Brentford finished 9th How is dean smith an upgrade, he's just the same type of coach lee johnson is but with out the hate johnson gets for simply being lee johnson I agree with you, but aren't all those finishes higher than ours each season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Sturny said: I agree with you, but aren't all those finishes higher than ours each season? but under johnson we've had a season on season improvement, same can't be said about smith, if your going to replace him its got to be with someone better not just some one who is exactly the same as you already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: not the point, you want some one to come in to push us for promtion and suggest Dean Smith, I ask what promotions has he got under his belt, 2015/16 Brentford finished 9th 2016/17 Brentford finished 10th 2017/18 Brentford finished 9th How is dean smith an upgrade, he's just the same type of coach lee johnson is but with out the hate johnson gets for simply being lee johnson That is some achievement for a small club like Brentford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 @Londoner this is all getting a bit tedious now. Why not just relax a little, take some time away from football and find some joy in your life. Yes, I appreciate that things aren't going well for City, and I also recognise that, but broadcasting it all day everyday is boring. I didn't even need to read the who was the OP to realise it was you. You clearly get little joy in watching City or football, why not try something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 I'm not sure I want him sacked but this is probably the least enthusiastic I have been about a season in a very long time. If we are all honest he isn't going to succeed here and if we are going out of this league it's going to be down not up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 @Top Robin Not that I'm advocating a change, but in addition to that and selling their best players most years- maybe even every year, Brentford arguably play the best football in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Monkeh said: but under johnson we've had a season on season improvement, same can't be said about smith, if your going to replace him its got to be with someone better not just some one who is exactly the same as you already have Clueless not worthy of debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Top Robin Not that I'm advocating a change, but in addition to that and selling their best players most years- maybe even every year, Brentford arguably play the best football in the Championship. I agree with this but LJ is trying to do the same, unfortunately I think it’s the recruitment side of things letting us and him down. 2 minutes ago, Londoner said: Clueless not worthy of debate. It is true tho? We’ve finished each season in a higher place than the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 ‘Time to go’ is when/if we are in the relegation zone in December with no clear strategy to climb out of it - whoever the manager is - and believe me I will be stating it on the various forums. Sacking a manager 2 games into a season would be utterly stupid and to be quite honest we would deserve to struggle - and most neutrals would want us to go down. This has nothing to do with it being Lee Johnson - I’m not a ‘lover’ or a ‘hater’ - it’s just footballing common sense. People of a certain age like me have seen to much of League 1 (Div 3) for our liking, so being an established championship side IS progress and we shouldn’t rock the boat. its like being on 17 in blackjack. Twist or stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: I agree with this but LJ is trying to do the same, unfortunately I think it’s the recruitment side of things letting us and him down. We are trying to go down a similar line, particularly starting with this summer. Would say we have a bit more wriggle room and can be a bit more discerning about who we sell and when- but that will (hopefully!) come in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Londoner said: Clueless not worthy of debate. only because you've lost the debate with youre well reasoned answer, go on tell us how smith is an improvement on johnson? is it because he can keep his best players? oh wait brentford sell key players every year is it because brentford always challenge for promotion.... oh wait they've never finished higher then 9th under him is it because he's improved their league position every season, oh wait he hasn't if you don''t want to debate just don't bother trolling the forum with your unintelligent narrow minded bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: I agree with this but LJ is trying to do the same, unfortunately I think it’s the recruitment side of things letting us and him down. I hear this a lot. Does anyone really believe that LJ has no say in who the club scouts and recruits ? I don't believe it for one second, but its nice to imply when the signings are at best patchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Lose Saturday and 3 league games into the season the hostility will start and this forum will be toxic. Its already starting. Time for a couple of weeks off. Around in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: Lose Saturday and 3 league games into the season the hostility will start and this forum will be toxic. Its already starting. Time for a couple of weeks off. Round in circles. only way the board will take notice is if attendances and match day revenue drop significantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Loon plage said: I hear this a lot. Does anyone really believe that LJ has no say in who the club scouts and recruits ? I don't believe it for one second, but its nice to imply when the signings are at best patchy. No I think he has a say but he’s obviously recommended players from the scouting team and this side of things is letting him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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