Robbored Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 The academy manager. Gave a good inside into the structure of the academy. Talked about importance of getting youngsters out on loan as the type of younger academy football is all possession based and the lads learn only how to play that way. There are no leagues either. In the world of men’s competitive league football that’s a useful core skills to have but they learn very quickly that ‘real’ football isnt always played that way and quipped that Boro on Saturday definitely won’t play like that. So they send the guys out to gain knowledge and experience of league football. When young lads first join the academy they and the parents are told with blunt honesty that only around 10% of academy players actually get a professional contract regardless of which club they’re at. Then if the lad doesn’t make it it doesn’t come as a great let down. It can also act as a motivator. I was surprised to hear that there are 22 full time employees at the academy which is funded by three sources, the PL, EFL and the club itself. Gary Probert spoke so well that he was only asked around 3 or 4 questions as he was so thorough. The more you learn about the club, the more you come to appreciate just how big the structure is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Interesting, thanks. I’m amazed it’s as high as 10% to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 This part of the football club has been remarkably improved in the last few years. I'm the past, I have seen individuals or very occasionally, a couple or three in the youth City system that looked as if they would make it to first team level. Now we have almost a whole team of our best Under 23 squad out on loan at League and Conference level. One might think that this would leave the cupboard bare, but don't give that any credence. I strongly recommend all our supporters to try their best to get to at a couple of U23 matches. I know you will enjoy the quality on view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, Robbored said: The academy manager. Gave a good inside into the structure of the academy. Talked about importance of getting youngsters out on loan as the type of younger academy football is all possession based and the lads learn only how to play that way. There are no leagues either. In the world of men’s competitive league football that’s a useful core skills to have but they learn very quickly that ‘real’ football isnt always played that way and quipped that Boro on Saturday definitely won’t play like that. So they send the guys out to gain knowledge and experience of league football. When young lads first join the academy they and the parents are told with blunt honesty that only around 10% of academy players actually get a professional contract regardless of which club they’re at. Then if the lad doesn’t make it it doesn’t come as a great let down. It can also act as a motivator. I was surprised to hear that there are 22 full time employees at the academy which is funded by three sources, the PL, EFL and the club itself. Gary Probert spoke so well that he was only asked around 3 or 4 questions as he was so thorough. The more you learn about the club, the more you come to appreciate just how big the structure is. Pssst Brian Tinnion's been telling the kids its 3%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Pssst Brian Tinnion's been telling the kids its 3%. BT looks after the 16 - 23 age group iirc I know he spends a lot of time traveling up and down the country liaisoning with the different clubs and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Pssst Brian Tinnion's been telling the kids its 3%. 3% sounds much more realistic than 10% surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Pssst Brian Tinnion's been telling the kids its 3%. Undercutting his boss eh?....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: Interesting, thanks. I’m amazed it’s as high as 10% to be honest. Pro contract vs 1st team player the percentages diminish further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Pro contract vs 1st team player the percentages diminish further. My newphew has just been signed by FGR’s academy, what odds on me being able to retire at 40 whilst the Daily Mail write stories about him popping down Greggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Thanks Robbored. I disagree with your thoughts on quite a number of things but always find your write ups on these sessions insightful and interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: My newphew has just been signed by FGR’s academy, what odds on me being able to retire at 40 whilst the Daily Mail write stories about him popping down Greggs? Is your nephew's initials HS? My cousin's lad has just joined FGR too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Is your nephew's initials HS? My cousin's lad has just joined FGR too! No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: No! Fairly do's. I can now confirm you are not my cousin's brother in law (or sis)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 hours ago, steveybadger said: Is your nephew's initials HS? My cousin's lad has just joined FGR too! .... blimey is Harry Styles going in a completely different direction now then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: .... blimey is Harry Styles going in a completely different direction now then? Keep them coming. I’m sure somebody will eventually find these amusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, WhistleHappy said: .... blimey is Harry Styles going in a completely different direction now then? I wish I could pretend I didn't know who he is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, steveybadger said: I wish I could pretend I didn't know who he is..... You too? .. Hopefully hair today gone tomorrow eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 19 hours ago, Robbored said: The academy manager. Gave a good inside into the structure of the academy. Talked about importance of getting youngsters out on loan as the type of younger academy football is all possession based and the lads learn only how to play that way. There are no leagues either. In the world of men’s competitive league football that’s a useful core skills to have but they learn very quickly that ‘real’ football isnt always played that way and quipped that Boro on Saturday definitely won’t play like that. So they send the guys out to gain knowledge and experience of league football. When young lads first join the academy they and the parents are told with blunt honesty that only around 10% of academy players actually get a professional contract regardless of which club they’re at. Then if the lad doesn’t make it it doesn’t come as a great let down. It can also act as a motivator. I was surprised to hear that there are 22 full time employees at the academy which is funded by three sources, the PL, EFL and the club itself. Gary Probert spoke so well that he was only asked around 3 or 4 questions as he was so thorough. The more you learn about the club, the more you come to appreciate just how big the structure is. I manage a junior team in one of the local leagues and I am always amazed at the commitment required from parents if their child is snapped up by a league club academy. I know someone whose son (still of Primary School age) is with a Premiership club academy, and he is having to drive him to training on three workday evenings, and also take him to matches at the weekend. He has even had to accompany him to other countries within Europe for matches. Other boys have come to us from the Bristol City academy simply because their parents couldn't make the commitment required to get their child to training, and City have been pretty scathing when a child has been pulled out. And all this in the knowledge that fewer than 10% of the academy will get anywhere near the professional game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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