RT's Vaseline Tub Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. Really quite inept considering the money we’ve netted and high rollers off the payroll like Gary O’N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, RT's Vaseline Tub said: By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. Really quite inept considering the money we’ve netted and high rollers off the payroll like Gary O’N. Yes, but that is plan, which is supported by some on here. " Doing it the right way" " Not over spending" " Grow slowly" Interestingly , anyone who does support the plan and believes it will work, are unable to actually detail how exactly that is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, RT's Vaseline Tub said: By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. Really quite inept considering the money we’ve netted and high rollers off the payroll like Gary O’N. You think we should have recruited someone for at least half a season to cover a suspension? Our points tally at the moment is not all down to the absence of Diedhiou, it is at least about unplanned injuries. It's easy to say that Diedhious is suspended, the club hasn't won a match yet, therefore the club hasn't won a match because Diedhiou is suspended, but that might be false logic. Of course, it would have been better to have had him available, but the solution to everything isn't to bring in new players, as the January transfer window proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Could of kept Djuric till the end of the month but was he fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Couldn't have kept Djuric until end of month, another week, week and a half tops- because Italian window shut on 17th. As for Diedhiou, a lot of pressure on him returning...will take him time to get up to speed I fear- new signings to get used to playing with, the churn of players in the summer, possibly style not quite the same...I hope he hits the ground running, but I wouldn't bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Super said: Could of kept Djuric till the end of the month but was he fit? Was he motivated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Couldn't have kept Djuric until end of month, another week, week and a half tops- because Italian window shut on 17th. As for Diedhiou, a lot of pressure on him returning...will take him time to get up to speed I fear- new signings to get used to playing with, the churn of players in the summer, possibly style not quite the same...I hope he hits the ground running, but I wouldn't bank on it. Ah right sorry thought it was end of August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Ashton Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Fam will complete his suspension and it'll be a case of he's not match fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I think , knowing Duric wanted out , Bobby gone , and Eisa a punt , for the future in all likelihood I think we should have been looking for another striker to seriously compete with FD and AW Weve faffed around with Matt Taylor and I can only assume that Lee and the coaching team rate him more than many of us and believe he’s a decent third striker (I don’t see it) IMHO we should have been decisive and offloaded Taylor in summer if we could (Possibly not too easy if he is in £16k a week) and replaced him as the third striker option with better quality Growing fears for us this season and if we maintain our place I think we will be looking back on the last window and saying ‘Thank ***** we signed Weimann’ (Excellent buy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: I think , knowing Duric wanted out , Bobby gone , and Eisa a punt , for the future in all likelihood I think we should have been looking for another striker to seriously compete with FD and AW Weve faffed around with Matt Taylor and I can only assume that Lee and the coaching team rate him more than many of us and believe he’s a decent third striker (I don’t see it) IMHO we should have been decisive and offloaded Taylor in summer if we could (Possibly not too easy if he is in £16k a week) and replaced him as the third striker option with better quality Taylor has been close to loans a couple times so not sure if we do actually rate him much. We were definitely looking at another striker according to Alan Nixon but obviously didn’t find one. Fam Weimann Eisa a solid 3 when we’re mainly playing one up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Taylor has been close to loans a couple times so not sure if we do actually rate him much. We were definitely looking at another striker according to Alan Nixon but obviously didn’t find one. Fam Weimann Eisa a solid 3 when we’re mainly playing one up top. Eisa ? Ive said a few times I like some raw signs in him But seriously ? Going into a season with him as your third striker - for a Championship Club that’s spent £36m in 3 years ? He was in Ismiathan League 18 months ago Massive ask and an unfair one , and a poor one I’d suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Robin Ashton said: Fam will complete his suspension and it'll be a case of he's not match fit. Chomping at the bit according to LJ as looks awesome in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, RT's Vaseline Tub said: Chomping at the bit according to LJ as looks awesome in training. Well he's not exactly gonna say he looks shite is he.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I think , knowing Duric wanted out , Bobby gone , and Eisa a punt , for the future in all likelihood I think we should have been looking for another striker to seriously compete with FD and AW Weve faffed around with Matt Taylor and I can only assume that Lee and the coaching team rate him more than many of us and believe he’s a decent third striker (I don’t see it) IMHO we should have been decisive and offloaded Taylor in summer if we could (Possibly not too easy if he is in £16k a week) and replaced him as the third striker option with better quality Growing fears for us this season and if we maintain our place I think we will be looking back on the last window and saying ‘Thank ***** we signed Weimann’ (Excellent buy) I see it as the perfect opportunity to play the "punt", if it doesn't come off, then we get someone in, pointless having him sat on the bench as an unknown force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Galley Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 My big worry as I have said before, what happens if he gets injured, we have no physical presence in the squad up front, not even the Flint option that we had in the past. We were told that the squad needs cover for every position, where is it in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Eisa ? Ive said a few times I like some raw signs in him But seriously ? Going into a season with him as your third striker - for a Championship Club that’s spent £36m in 3 years ? He was in Ismiathan League 18 months ago Massive ask and an unfair one , and a poor one I’d suggest Don’t expect a third striker to playing too much over the course of the season. Look at the teams who you’d expect to be in the middle of the championship. Who were their third choice strikers last season and how many goals did they get? Looking at a few teams it ranges from 4-7 mostly. I think Weimann and diedhiou will both hit double figures comfortably. Eisa might rack up 20+ appearances if he’s lucky. I think he’ll chip in with a fair few goals. Massive ask to be a third choice championship striker? Regardless of where he was 18 months ago last season he was a ridiculously efficient league 2 striker. Would rather him than Taylor off the bench right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I really hope we are still looking to bring another striker in. If it means Taylor going out on loan then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 54 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You think we should have recruited someone for at least half a season to cover a suspension? Our points tally at the moment is not all down to the absence of Diedhiou, it is at least about unplanned injuries. It's easy to say that Diedhious is suspended, the club hasn't won a match yet, therefore the club hasn't won a match because Diedhiou is suspended, but that might be false logic. Of course, it would have been better to have had him available, but the solution to everything isn't to bring in new players, as the January transfer window proved. I agree we didn’t need to sign a replacement for Diédhiou but the January transfer window didn’t prove your point at all. We absolutely did need to bring in new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, John Galley said: My big worry as I have said before, what happens if he gets injured, we have no physical presence in the squad up front, not even the Flint option that we had in the past. We were told that the squad needs cover for every position, where is it in this situation? LJ also stated we needed more of a physical presence last season so even worse now with the departures as he wanted leaders and warriors rather than those going under with the pressure. So why do we not implement what he wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, Sturny said: Well he's not exactly gonna say he looks shite is he.. Would be an "interesting" press conference though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, RT's Vaseline Tub said: By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. Really quite inept considering the money we’ve netted and high rollers off the payroll like Gary O’N. You honestly think we could have got 15 points from the first 5 games with Fammy in? Yes he has been missed, and he could well have been the difference against Forest and Bolton but we would been beat by Boro as it was men against boys. A massive issue to me is our defence look so disjointed and we seem to have no leader to take control on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, wood_red said: You honestly think we could have got 15 points from the first 5 games with Fammy in? Yes he has been missed, and he could well have been the difference against Forest and Bolton but we would been beat by Boro as it was men against boys. A massive issue to me is our defence look so disjointed and we seem to have no leader to take control on the pitch. Certainly don't think we'd have beaten Boro, might have beaten Bolton though. Think maybe we might have got a point v Boro but not for those reasons- a fit Diedhiou may have enabled a shift to a 4-3-3, with wingers service into him and a better shape to match up to them, when the inevitable counter attacks happened. 4-5 points from the first 3 maybe, 9 nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, RT's Vaseline Tub said: By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. I was just re-reading the Famara 6 Game Ban Thread, and you've got a point - lots of explicit comments on how we will replace our forward options and a few people remarking on it as the opportunity for Djuric as "the" target man (that worked out well). The other thing that struck me re-reading the 8 pages is that as the thread was stop-start over 3 months, I'm not sure many people actually followed up the video references that were provided in the thread, and actually watched it through for themselves? I certainly didn't, I simply read lots of comments saying there is absolutely no reaction from the player on camera. I've just gone and had a look back at the video and every second of a very clear reaction from Davis (their number 26) is there on the video. The incident (which I assume happened after Davis chops him down off the ball) is off camera, and with the ball in play nothing happens, but 30 seconds later at a dead ball he goes rushing back to Fam and is telling everyone he can, including our players. Very easy with hindsight, but enough there in the reaction to be better prepared for losing the case and losing Famara (albeit based on City's submission to the July appeal there is clearly another video of the incident itself, that the rest of us haven't seen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Have been saying we need someone to compete with Fam. We have no specialist strikers up for the championship outside of him. Eisa needs time and Taylor not up to it. Everyone can adapt to another position be it Weimann or Pato on the wing in a 433. Weimann, Watkins or Pato next to Fam in a 442. If Diedhiou is injured or suspended again we have no options. We need another platform type player to compete/spell him. Does not have to be a 6’3 target man but anyone who can compete physically with champ CBs. Otherwise we will be hoping Eisa makes the step up very quickly which would be unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, RT's Vaseline Tub said: By the time Fam is available we could have blown 13 points so the decision not to recruit is baffling and our season could pretty much be over. Unfortunately everyone saw this coming except for those that mattered. Really quite inept considering the money we’ve netted and high rollers off the payroll like Gary O’N. There’s an assumption made, which seems quite common in these transfer threads, which is that we didn’t realise something and didn’t try to get someone on board. How do you know that “those that mattered” didn’t try to get a striker in? It’s easier said than done sometimes. It’s pretty clear a goalkeeper was our no 1 target this summer and we didn’t land any of our targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I seem to remember when he came back after injury last season people on here were blaming him for results dropping off. It was suggested he didn't suit the fast pressing game we played with BR up front on his own. Now he's going to save our season. It's hard to fathom the inconsistency on here sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: There’s an assumption made, which seems quite common in these transfer threads, which is that we didn’t realise something and didn’t try to get someone on board. How do you know that “those that mattered” didn’t try to get a striker in? It’s easier said than done sometimes. It’s pretty clear a goalkeeper was our no 1 target this summer and we didn’t land any of our targets. Agree with this, as fans we see and hear only a tiny fraction of what actually happens behind closed doors at the club, even those who get snippets of something happening and classed as ITK, still only know next to sweet FA but a bit more than most. But it never stops people wanting to fill in the gaps and write nonsense on here as if its gospel or slant it to fit an agenda against the latest target. The results show we have not got it right, but none of us know the real reasons why just lots of wild speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I don’t get this desperation for a striker- the reason for our misfiring so far this season has had more to do with our defence. I’d rather we signed a couple of solid full-backs than a striker. Weiman is doing ok and Fam will be available soon - I’d say we are ok up front. Only my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Anyone else notice he’s traveling up with the squad today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Have been saying we need someone to compete with Fam. We have no specialist strikers up for the championship outside of him. Eisa needs time and Taylor not up to it. Everyone can adapt to another position be it Weimann or Pato on the wing in a 433. Weimann, Watkins or Pato next to Fam in a 442. If Diedhiou is injured or suspended again we have no options. We need another platform type player to compete/spell him. Does not have to be a 6’3 target man but anyone who can compete physically with champ CBs. Otherwise we will be hoping Eisa makes the step up very quickly which would be unfair Should have kept Arnie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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