reddoh Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 hours ago, phantom said: Agree, it'll be no easier than getting to Cardiff or Birmingham etc now, I thought red trousers was inept but this clown has taken it to new depths. Filton may have space around it but the location will be a nightmare to get to, no rail infrastructure or any public transport and having a motorway on the doorstep will just create bottle necks in that area Am surprised nothing has come out about the Wickes site being redeveloped I thought that had been purchased a long time ago... Or maybe it will be a big surprise announcement? there is a railway line going right past the brab hanger there is an old station just by the a38 (platform still there?) if the councils could be arsed it could happen but i fear to many fingers would have to extracted from to many arses and then there would be a mass debate on which is the elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 8 hours ago, pillred said: I'm just seeing it from an access point of view, the centre of the city is a bit small road wise, just imagine 12 thousand people descending on the area around temple meads all at once, think it would be a nightmare. Just like all those thousands of people who catch trains to and from Temple Meads every day you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 8 hours ago, pillred said: I'm just seeing it from an access point of view, the centre of the city is a bit small road wise, just imagine 12 thousand people descending on the area around temple meads all at once, think it would be a nightmare. Yeah, if only there was some sort of major public transport hub nearby that people could use instead of their cars! Cardiff Central copes with crowds 6 or 7 times those the arena would bring in a smaller station, and many times more than 12k descend on central Bristol already every single rush hour. There are also many thousands of car parking spaces within 20 minutes walk if only people could cope with that level of exercise. It's all complete bullshit to deliver the Malaysians and Rees a nice free pot of lovely taxpayers' cash and central and southern Bristol will pay the economic price for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Fiale said: as it seems the Temple Meads site is going to be a hotel, conference centre and housing.... knew it would be nothing to benefit the people of Bristol. Hopefully will make SL's plans easier to get through though. I think when we were going to build a stadium at Ashton Vale , SL offered to bulid an Arena then , on the site. Council said no . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Stortz said: Not for the centre of Bristol it isn't, it's a death knell. Rees is a corrupt fraud, bought and paid for by dodgy Malaysian money- just like the Cardiff scum. Well said. Mayor "Doolittle" will not be remembered for any of his "achievements". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 This project was supposed to be for the people of Bristol. Most people in Bristol can get to Temple Meads area by bus within 30-40 minutes. People from outside Bristol can get there by train. That's why the original Ferguson plan had little or no car parking provision. How many people could get to Filton from the other side of Bristol within that time frame and without using their cars. As I said before, its all rather underhand!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 hours ago, RedLionLad said: 12 thousand people (mostly in cars) heading to Filton on a Friday night would be a much bigger nightmare. chatting to a lettings agent from around the area and he said with the 4000 houses going up and the mail nearly doubling its the last place you want a arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, marmite said: This project was supposed to be for the people of Bristol. Most people in Bristol can get to Temple Meads area by bus within 30-40 minutes. People from outside Bristol can get there by train. That's why the original Ferguson plan had little or no car parking provision. How many people could get to Filton from the other side of Bristol within that time frame and without using their cars. As I said before, its all rather underhand!! i agree.what gets me is who told legal and General to draw up alternative plans behind the people of bristols backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Tomarse said: I can see it all getting tangled up in a public enquiry after the final announcement it’s at Filton. isnt it time we had a vote to get rid of mayors? The mayor of Bristol should be above party politics,leave that to the councillors, take a step back and do what is right for Bristol. Marvin has neither the vision or competence,just listening to his waffle makes it clear he is out of his depth. Apart from appointing a poet is anyone able to say what this clown has done during his tenure. Great public buildings are built in the centre of cities and contribute to the life and vibrancy of the City . I wouldn't trust Marvin to run a bath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Dollymarie said: Yes indeed As someone who voted for Marvin, seeing him as the best chance of getting rid of red trousers, I can’t help but feel massively disappointed at all that Marvin promised/hinted at, but has failed to do. I voted for Red trousers in the first place because he promised to stop the metrobus… We did have a waterslide for a day though… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: The residents in all the new housing in Patchway are going to be chuffed. Unless they run more trains into Patchway or open North Filton on the Henbury loop line to passenger traffic a bloody big car park will be needed. I feel an RPZ or two coming on. Marvin will overcome all of the access problems to the Filton Arena by simply adding another station to his plan for the Bristol Tube system. Simple.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Bristol brought all this on itself when it originally voted for a mayor. I voted against as I knew it would just be another ****t trying to make a name for himself/herself. Massive mistake and Bristol is the worse for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Fiasco is an understatement isn’t it. Why can’t this great city of ours get anything right. It did once Reg, remember our great grandfather was Lord Mayor in 1948, went downhill after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I can understand the logic in this IF both projects are delivered. I would be in favour of a stipulation saying one project can't happen without the other. The Filton location already has the infrastructure and it could help to get the train lines reopened. The only downside is people will spend their money in South Glos rather than in Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, reddoh said: there is a railway line going right past the brab hanger there is an old station just by the a38 (platform still there?) if the councils could be arsed it could happen but i fear to many fingers would have to extracted from to many arses and then there would be a mass debate on which is the elbow. Is there anywhere near the Henbury loop line that would suffice? I don't actually know where it is… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 hours ago, RedLionLad said: 12 thousand people (mostly in cars) heading to Filton on a Friday night would be a much bigger nightmare. and what if the Gas are home as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, italian dave said: Boundary is a strange shape up there, isn't it? Looks like the Arena will be in Bristol but all the infrastructure problems will be South Glos' ! I believe that one of the roads required for access comes under South Gloucs so a planning application will need to go to them for approval. This was mentioned in a recent debate on Radio Bristol regarding the Arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: I believe that one of the roads required for access comes under South Gloucs so a planning application will need to go to them for approval. This was mentioned in a recent debate on Radio Bristol regarding the Arena But like Ashton Vale which needed Bristol and N Somerset approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Super said: Well you all voted for marvin rees. It is little wonder nothing gets done; they blow what budget they have on an over padded number of staff; these fat eating socialist councils invent jobs just so it looks like unemployment is under control but also to swallow cash for 'extra curricular' activities and dead end enquiries that don't report back and are closed down, money washed, for lack of 'a meaningful purpose to continue' or 'we are satisfied we are spending the correct amount of money on office stationary' but a 'few savings of approximately £5k could be made. Cost of report: £10k which of course is buried for 'a duty to be fair to all creeds working in the cost assurance dept'. In the Crimean War of the 1850's, long before socialism was even a concept, the Foreign Office numbered approximatelly 200 souls. Today it runs into thousands and yet, unlike then, we have the 'all time saving wunderbar' invention called the computer. 2 hours ago, Tomarse said: I can see it all getting tangled up in a public enquiry after the final announcement it’s at Filton. isnt it time we had a vote to get rid of mayors? And who's rancid idea was it to have them in the first place? The bar steward Blair, thats who. The guy just scooped up any ideas that added tiers to government and launched them regardless of consequence and cost. 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Mainly to get rid of the fuckwomble Ferguson. Anybody is better than the socialist Rees with ideas long since buried into the dirt except Corbyn who wants to take us back to the Red Robbo inertia of the 70's so he can bury enquiry cash in his saggy trousers. All parties are guilty of waste. But only one is the master. Who has led Bristol City Council since the war? I would be surprised if there was a single Tory administration, certainly since it was made a unitary authority in the early 70's there has only been labour, liberal, just once, or hung. I thought Ferguson was the best bet to try and clean up the nepotism and get ideas and projects moving... That he failed is more down to what lies beneath and his inability to shift the paradigm because nearly all councils have been left wing or hung and it is entrenched and endemic. At least he tried to shake it up but mostly he met brick walls wherever he went by the chaebol of socialist power in the underbelly. Time for a cuppa tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I think it's about time Bristol had an underground line running from north to south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BCFCinNW6 said: Just like all those thousands of people who catch trains to and from Temple Meads every day you mean? surely not 12 thousand all at once though, their probably spaced out over the day and also know the area, concerts would draw people in from all over the country most of whom had never been to Bristol, as someone else commented the public transport and parking just could not cope without major investment, would we get that as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BobbyC said: It looks like the Arena will be in Bristol but the car park in South Glos. If the car park is in S Gloucs a £5/£10 charge per car and Bristol won't see any of it. As a S.Gloucs council tax payer it seems a good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mtimmy11 said: chatting to a lettings agent from around the area and he said with the 4000 houses going up and the mail nearly doubling its the last place you want a arena It's also the last place you'll want to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Dollymarie said: Yes indeed As someone who voted for Marvin, seeing him as the best chance of getting rid of red trousers, I can’t help but feel massively disappointed at all that Marvin promised/hinted at, but has failed to do. As always Dolly talk is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Super said: Well you all voted for marvin rees. I voted for Mr Ferguson. He has a history of decision making. He has a history of achievement. Mr Rees had neither and has cost the City of Bristol millions with his inability to deliver. What has occurred was nailed on with the political posturing that afflicts Bristol. Vote for left or right is a vote for inaction. I agree with Mr Ferguson latest comments that a flag ship site at Temple Meads befits more than a hotel and office blocks. It is the best site in Bristol for an arena A marvellous site. I would vote for Mr Ferguson again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 George did more for Bristol as a city in one term of office than countless years in power for both Labour and Conservative. One term of Marvin Has seen absolutely nothing happen. Bristolians deserve Marvin because you don’t know a good thing when you see it. People who put party above policies get what they deserve. A big heap of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddBallJim Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lord Northski said: George did more for Bristol as a city in one term of office than countless years in power for both Labour and Conservative. One term of Marvin Has seen absolutely nothing happen. Bristolians deserve Marvin because you don’t know a good thing when you see it. People who put party above policies get what they deserve. A big heap of nothing. Just because someone does a lot, does not mean the things they do are worthwhile or beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: Just because someone does a lot, does not mean the things they do are worthwhile or beneficial. Cycle lanes - good for everyone, just need more of them RPZ - Blooming brilliant, apart from for those who want to park outside someone else’s house for work. Metrobus - to early to say 20 mph zones - annoying for motorists who are badly organised and late. blooming great for those who have to walk or cycle around the area or who have kids or the elderly So I stand by my point. There’s always people who will complain about absolutely everything, and sometimes their opinion isn’t worth shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Temple Meads has far, far better transport links and people are already in town for work and will hang around and go to dinner and a gig after. Filton is an abysmal idea and is only being discussed because of the gifts and trips the Malay firm have been splashing around. You're watching corruption in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Temple meads would’ve been great. Can’t remember any parking spaces around the Millennium stadium or the O2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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