Red-Robbo Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Tomarse said: I can see it all getting tangled up in a public enquiry after the final announcement it’s at Filton. isnt it time we had a vote to get rid of mayors? It's about time we got rid of the BCC/SGC nonsense. One authority for the Bristol metropolitan area is the only way to go for infrastructure projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nibor said: Temple Meads has far, far better transport links and people are already in town for work and will hang around and go to dinner and a gig after. Filton is an abysmal idea and is only being discussed because of the gifts and trips the Malay firm have been splashing around. You're watching corruption in action. @Nibor I haven’t followed this closely enough to know what’s occurred. What has happened re the gifts, trips etc? Genuinely interested, not trying to argue at all It should be in the centre at TM and not in some backwater miles away from the centre of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: It's about time we got rid of the BCC/SGC nonsense. One authority for the Bristol metropolitan area is the only way to go for infrastructure projects. We could call it Avon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 So who wants a night out in Filton? Anyone?, Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, havanatopia said: It is little wonder nothing gets done; they blow what budget they have on an over padded number of staff; these fat eating socialist councils invent jobs just so it looks like unemployment is under control but also to swallow cash for 'extra curricular' activities and dead end enquiries that don't report back and are closed down, money washed, for lack of 'a meaningful purpose to continue' or 'we are satisfied we are spending the correct amount of money on office stationary' but a 'few savings of approximately £5k could be made. Cost of report: £10k which of course is buried for 'a duty to be fair to all creeds working in the cost assurance dept'. In the Crimean War of the 1850's, long before socialism was even a concept, the Foreign Office numbered approximatelly 200 souls. Today it runs into thousands and yet, unlike then, we have the 'all time saving wunderbar' invention called the computer. And who's rancid idea was it to have them in the first place? The bar steward Blair, thats who. The guy just scooped up any ideas that added tiers to government and launched them regardless of consequence and cost. Anybody is better than the socialist Rees with ideas long since buried into the dirt except Corbyn who wants to take us back to the Red Robbo inertia of the 70's so he can bury enquiry cash in his saggy trousers. All parties are guilty of waste. But only one is the master. Who has led Bristol City Council since the war? I would be surprised if there was a single Tory administration, certainly since it was made a unitary authority in the early 70's there has only been labour, liberal, just once, or hung. I thought Ferguson was the best bet to try and clean up the nepotism and get ideas and projects moving... That he failed is more down to what lies beneath and his inability to shift the paradigm because nearly all councils have been left wing or hung and it is entrenched and endemic. At least he tried to shake it up but mostly he met brick walls wherever he went by the chaebol of socialist power in the underbelly. Time for a cuppa tea. Well over 60% of the councils budget goes towards social care. Or would you like our elderly and poor going back to the workhouses? Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Lord Northski said: George did more for Bristol as a city in one term of office than countless years in power for both Labour and Conservative. One term of Marvin Has seen absolutely nothing happen. Bristolians deserve Marvin because you don’t know a good thing when you see it. People who put party above policies get what they deserve. A big heap of nothing. George left behind a hidden budget deficit of £30 million for the next mayor to clear up. Apart from that he did loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: We could call it Avon! Always thought that sounded too much like cheap cosmetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, lenred said: @Nibor I haven’t followed this closely enough to know what’s occurred. What has happened re the gifts, trips etc? Genuinely interested, not trying to argue at all It should be in the centre at TM and not in some backwater miles away from the centre of town. sorry, but Filton is hardly a backwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, pillred said: sorry, but Filton is hardly a backwater. You’re right, and neither is Pill. + You could’ve got to Temple Meads Arena by train... Ah ! Sorry Too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, pillred said: sorry, but Filton is hardly a backwater. Fair enough, apologies for any offence. Just in the context of serving the city of Bristol it's not exactly convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lord Northski said: You’re right, and neither is Pill. + You could’ve got to Temple Meads Arena by train... Ah ! Sorry Too soon? I reckon I will be pushing up daises by the time they get their act together the usual shambles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Lord Northski said: Cycle lanes - good for everyone, just need more of them RPZ - Blooming brilliant, apart from for those who want to park outside someone else’s house for work. Metrobus - to early to say 20 mph zones - annoying for motorists who are badly organised and late. blooming great for those who have to walk or cycle around the area or who have kids or the elderly So I stand by my point. There’s always people who will complain about absolutely everything, and sometimes their opinion isn’t worth shit Metrobus was a legacy of the Lib Dem’s tenure before George. In a way it sums up that mayor or no mayor we rarely get anything right in Bristol. Free parking on Sundays was a good incentive by GF which Marv has now got rid of as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, Odysseus said: George left behind a hidden budget deficit of £30 million for the next mayor to clear up. Apart from that he did loads. That’s probably because George understood that’s it’s easier to get forgiveness than permission. And given that getting permission for anything in Bristol is pretty much impossible given how totally inept everybody at the council is. Who can blame him? Oh, Apart from you of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, Odysseus said: Well over 60% of the councils budget goes towards social care. Or would you like our elderly and poor going back to the workhouses? Clueless. Clueless heh! Hahaaa. Ever heard of burying corruption? I have never seen a balance sheet showing 'corruption' as an expenditure have you? The percentages can and are fudged all over the place. Best to be sceptical but definitely not so naive. The figure, on its own, taking away any padding of the percentage is an absolutely shocking indictment of the mismanagement of the council. I do not believe for one minute that 60% is the true figure. Its a combination of council nefariousness combined with incompetence and public fraud. That goes for many a council mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lenred said: @Nibor I haven’t followed this closely enough to know what’s occurred. What has happened re the gifts, trips etc? Genuinely interested, not trying to argue at all It should be in the centre at TM and not in some backwater miles away from the centre of town. Marvin went over to Malaysia all expenses paid apparently, all paid for by the people who want to build an arena in Filton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Marvin went over to Malaysia all expenses paid apparently, all paid for by the people who want to build an arena in Filton Nothing to do with him wanting to get the arena built at filton though because he obviously isn’t corrupt in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 5 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Is there anywhere near the Henbury loop line that would suffice? I don't actually know where it is… I am not 100% sure as time has gone faster than i have but i would assume there is a link to the mainline somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Nothing to do with him wanting to get the arena built at filton though because he obviously isn’t corrupt in any way I heard he went to the meeting to discuss adopting Russia orphans. That's what all winning campaigners do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Isn't there space near UWE main campus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, pillred said: sorry, but Filton is hardly a backwater. Amsterdam, Berlin, Filton .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 The arena is not really a political matter. It is about providing a wanted public amenity at an affordable business cost. We can all complain about politicians in line with who we may support. During the last 30/40 years all the main political parties have held power in Bristol and each of them has made a total Heinz of the job, and neither of the two elected mayors for Bristol has shown any improvement on the old mayor and corporation. But the transport issues are not for Rees to solve are they? Don’t we have another elected berk, mayor of the south west or something, who has coordinated transport policy in his portfolio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: The arena is not really a political matter. During the last 30/40 years all the main political parties have held power in Bristol and each of them has made a total Heinz of the job. But the transport issues are not for Rees to solve are they? Don’t we have another elected berk, mayor of the south west or something, who has coordinated transport policy in his portfolio? The Conservatives have not; not in outright control. But like otherMs have said, local councils used to be less political. Not sure if it was better then but 40 years of politics does not seem to have got Bristol anywhere especially with the socialists usually fully or nominally in power. Bristol voters need to be a lot smarter in their choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 24/08/2018 at 17:47, Xiled said: hopefully Be good investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Slightly off topic, but I think this is what George had in mind for Bristol. An interesting stat from this is the reduction in infant road deaths from 500 a year to just 14 We all need to think bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Ashton Vale would be a perfect site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Isn't the Brabazon hangar a town green? I'm sure I've seen a security guard walking his dog there everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddBallJim Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 13:09, Lord Northski said: Cycle lanes - good for everyone, just need more of them RPZ - Blooming brilliant, apart from for those who want to park outside someone else’s house for work. Metrobus - to early to say 20 mph zones - annoying for motorists who are badly organised and late. blooming great for those who have to walk or cycle around the area or who have kids or the elderly So I stand by my point. There’s always people who will complain about absolutely everything, and sometimes their opinion isn’t worth shit Your final point - a very democratic approach there, no? Cycle lanes - fine if fully segregated (like Baldwin street) and not affecting the flow of traffic through the city. If they are being constructed at the liberty of road space, which will affect public transport options as well as motorists, then this is wrong. RPZ - nonsense. Nothing but a stealth tax. And if it was a true residents parking scheme it should apply at all hours, not just working hours. Metrobus - farse. Overbudget, doesn't run when I, or others within my area and age demographic, would like to use it. The new M2 route has been described as worse than the former Park and Ride service it is replacing. 20mph - waste of money. Traffic rarely moves above this speed in Bristol anyway. All I have seen evidence of it doing is creating further tension and stress for inexperienced/non-local motorists. Don't see how in any way this is beneficial to cyclists either. I actually agree that more segregated cycle ways would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter1450 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 02:31, RedLionLad said: 12 thousand people (mostly in cars) heading to Filton on a Friday night would be a much bigger nightmare. Not if you live in Bedminster, anything anywhere in Bristol untoward causes total misery for anyone who commutes or has a driving job,wether it’s a match at Ashton Gate, a concert on the Downs or the cricket ground or just an accident on the M4/5 the result is always total gridlock for hours on end. Really don’t see why all the fuss about an arena anyway, Mr Lansdown has already provided the city with a quality stadium that can accommodate far more people than the proposed arena and it didn’t cost the Bristol council tax payer a penny,unlike Marvins little trips to Asia to get funding for projects that will never see the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, OddBallJim said: Your final point - a very democratic approach there, no? Cycle lanes - fine if fully segregated (like Baldwin street) and not affecting the flow of traffic through the city. If they are being constructed at the liberty of road space, which will affect public transport options as well as motorists, then this is wrong. RPZ - nonsense. Nothing but a stealth tax. And if it was a true residents parking scheme it should apply at all hours, not just working hours. Metrobus - farse. Overbudget, doesn't run when I, or others within my area and age demographic, would like to use it. The new M2 route has been described as worse than the former Park and Ride service it is replacing. 20mph - waste of money. Traffic rarely moves above this speed in Bristol anyway. All I have seen evidence of it doing is creating further tension and stress for inexperienced/non-local motorists. Don't see how in any way this is beneficial to cyclists either. I actually agree that more segregated cycle ways would be a good idea. Typical blinkered Bristolian political nonsense, slagging absolutely everything off without a single constructive point or suggestion of ways to improve things. Congratulations you Luddite, you’ve got the mayor and city council you deserve. You should stand for mayor yourself and save everyone the bother of hoping things will improve. Vote OldBallJim, the same shit different day candidate. Or you could stand for Labour, same difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 25 August 2018 at 09:25, reddoh said: there is a railway line going right past the brab hanger there is an old station just by the a38 (platform still there?) if the councils could be arsed it could happen but i fear to many fingers would have to extracted from to many arses and then there would be a mass debate on which is the elbow. There is a rail line going right past Ashton Gate and yet we are no nearer passenger and a station to serve Ashton Gate than we were 20 years ago. IF and its a big IF an arena was built at Filton there will be no rail link and that is FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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