cheese Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Not seen this on here. So, we won't be getting any more loan players from Liverpool then. https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-liverpool-loan-196509 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I like Liverpool a lot... but who cares. Kent really didn't show any signs of having an impact when he came on, and if the result of it is that Premier League teams have to rethink their "you must play our player" contract strategy, I think it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ludicrous really isn't it. You send us a shit player, what do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: Ludicrous really isn't it. You send us a shit player, what do you expect? Kent had similar problems on loan in Germany. He found it very difficult to integrate with the squad and consequently was something of a loner. That obviously effected his performances. Liverpool would have been aware of the difficulties he had in Germany but probably assumed it was down to a different culture and language. The same sort of thing happened with us but as an English club Liverpool probably thought he’d settle in and be fine but he wasn’t. That says more about Ryan Kent than anything else. Now he’s on loan at Rangers with Liverpool legend Gerrard in charge. It’ll be interesting to see if Kent has the same difficulties up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Kent had similar problems on loan in Germany. He found it very difficult to integrate with the squad and consequently was something of a loner. That obviously effected his performances. Liverpool would have been aware of the difficulties he had in Germany but probably assumed it was down to a different culture and language. The same sort of thing happened with us but as an English club Liverpool probably thought he’d settle in and be fine but he wasn’t. That says more about Ryan Kent than anything else. Now he’s on loan at Rangers with Liverpool legend Gerrard in charge. It’ll be interesting to see if Kent has the same difficulties up there. Think he'll get a much more game time there whether he integrates or not, purely because the standard is a lot poorer so it doesn't really matter if he's mates with everyone or not. He should rip that league up with his talent. If he doesn't then maybe Klopp will realise that we were right in our 'treatment' of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, cheese said: Not seen this on here. So, we won't be getting any more loan players from Liverpool then. https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-liverpool-loan-196509 Couldn’t give a monkeys toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 This premier league youth loan system is such a joke. The top clubs have a strangle hold on the best young players, stockpiling them - which has not only driven up the price of younger players all down the leagues, but means these same clubs lower league clubs pay again for their development as the big boys pimp them out for 7 figure loan fees. And the icing on the cake, a fine for the borrowing club if their youth player doesn’t apply themselves or play well. It’s mafia stuff and all the while the top clubs get richer and richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 This amuses me on several levels. Taking advantage of favourable rules for them to steal highly rated youngsters off other clubs for a pittance... one of those clubs was us. That not being enough they illegally did it too, at one point. Also, Liverpool FC's brethren in Glasgow was always Celtic and now they are going to be doing their best to help Rangers, thanks to Gerrard. Rangers board have played a blinder with that appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 There is a player there, but he has to want to do well, and want to feel involved with the club he's at at that time. If he comes here thinking "I play for Liverpool" then it ain't going to work (as it showed when he was here). If you come in with a bit of an attitude, which going by reports and his previous spell in Germany would suggest that's what happened, and then play half assed, you're going to get dropped. The fact we had Tammy here and he did so well, and now the other 2 Chelsea guys, it shows that when they come with the right attitude and ability, they will get played. He played like a donkey for most of his time here, and he never got picked. Says more about him than us I'm afraid. If Klopp wants to get his knickers in a twist about it, then let him. I think the fact that some of these Premiership clubs insist on their players having so much game time shows how insecure they are about their own players. If they're good enough then they'll play on loan. Otherwise they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Robbored said: Kent had similar problems on loan in Germany. He found it very difficult to integrate with the squad and consequently was something of a loner. That obviously effected his performances. Liverpool would have been aware of the difficulties he had in Germany but probably assumed it was down to a different culture and language. The same sort of thing happened with us but as an English club Liverpool probably thought he’d settle in and be fine but he wasn’t. That says more about Ryan Kent than anything else. Now he’s on loan at Rangers with Liverpool legend Gerrard in charge. It’ll be interesting to see if Kent has the same difficulties up there. Reading stuff on Twitter it appears the Rangers fans are already questioning his ability. I don’t like the Liverpool loan contract, with penalty clauses. However I suspect that Chelsea do something similar. It was mooted by MA that the terms of the loan for Tammy included similar clauses. It just so happened that Tammy didn’t miss many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Best quote in that write up, is LJ saying... 'I should really tell the fans to come out of dreamland'...can we have that pinned to the top of the forum? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, spudski said: Best quote in that write up, is LJ saying... 'I should really tell the fans to come out of dreamland'...can we have that pinned to the top of the forum? haha Hahaha. Let's all laugh at the simple fans. While forgetting that LJ looked into the future a couple of years ago and saw us playing in the Europa League. Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Hahaha. Let's all laugh at the simple fans. While forgetting that LJ looked into the future a couple of years ago and saw us playing in the Europa League. Hahaha. Only a simple fan would fall for that quote and misinterpret it from the context it was spoken in tongue in cheek mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Alessandro said: This premier league youth loan system is such a joke. The top clubs have a strangle hold on the best young players, stockpiling them - which has not only driven up the price of younger players all down the leagues, but means these same clubs lower league clubs pay again for their development as the big boys pimp them out for 7 figure loan fees. And the icing on the cake, a fine for the borrowing club if their youth player doesn’t apply themselves or play well. It’s mafia stuff and all the while the top clubs get richer and richer. Absolutely spot on. It's screwing football in the UK. As for Ryan Kent- he was loaned with the best possible intentions by all sides. He didn't add value to our team at that time and so lost/failed to gain his place. That's no-one's fault unless the player is not quite as good as everyone thought. 4 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Hahaha. Let's all laugh at the simple fans. While forgetting that LJ looked into the future a couple of years ago and saw us playing in the Europa League. Hahaha. Oh dear- read what was actually said and in the actual context. It's pretty simple even for a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Oh dear- read what was actually said and in the actual context. It's pretty simple even for a fan. Saved me writing it. Amazed how many have chosen to ignore the context of that Europe in 5 years thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, spudski said: Only a simple fan would fall for that quote and misinterpret it from the context it was spoken in tongue in cheek mate Obviously lost on our newbie spudski........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ryan kent is a league one standard player. Liverpool are deluded if they think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Kent had similar problems on loan in Germany. He found it very difficult to integrate with the squad and consequently was something of a loner. That obviously effected his performances. Liverpool would have been aware of the difficulties he had in Germany but probably assumed it was down to a different culture and language. The same sort of thing happened with us but as an English club Liverpool probably thought he’d settle in and be fine but he wasn’t. That says more about Ryan Kent than anything else. Now he’s on loan at Rangers with Liverpool legend Gerrard in charge. It’ll be interesting to see if Kent has the same difficulties up there. To be fair he didn't look too bad when I watched a recent Rangers game. However if Stevie Gs report at the end of the season is not particularly favourably I can see him being moved on permanently at end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, bris red said: Ryan kent is a league one standard player. Liverpool are deluded if they think otherwise. On what do base that opinion? We hardly saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 He did look like a dick tbf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Red Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 First line of the thread on the Rangers forum on Kent sums him up really to me http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/317903-kent/ “Imo flatters to deceive and achieves not much” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said: He did look like a dick tbf... Liverpool obviously rate him. His difficulties integrating at other clubs probably reflect his immaturity. He is still a lad after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 **** `em. Who cares if Klopp`s got a paddy on - it certainly doesn`t seem to have put Chelsea off loaning players to us. As @Luxo Jr. rightly says, if it means the `big boys` have to rethink their policy then that`s all to the good. If we all told them to do one over the conditions they put on these deals who`s going to benefit then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, bris red said: Ryan kent is a league one standard player. Liverpool are deluded if they think otherwise. 51 minutes ago, Robbored said: On what do base that opinion? We hardly saw him play. Beause he's a League 1 standard player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, 42nite said: Beause he's a League 1 standard player. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Port Red said: First line of the thread on the Rangers forum on Kent sums him up really to me http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topic/317903-kent/ “Imo flatters to deceive and achieves not much” My favourite being: "Imo for every good ball he puts in there's also a *ucking awful effort'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, 42nite said: Beause he's a League 1 standard player. I said at the end of last season that I don’t see him having a career above Lg1 too. He might play games in the Champ, like he has for us and Barnsley, but I think his natural level will be a decent Lg1 team. Doesn’t need a “source” (@robbored), it’s my opinion. 4 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: My favourite being: "Imo for every good ball he puts in there's also several *ucking awful effort'. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 The real truth is they don't like Brian Tinnion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, spudski said: Only a simple fan would fall for that quote and misinterpret it from the context it was spoken in tongue in cheek mate 2 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Absolutely spot on. It's screwing football in the UK. As for Ryan Kent- he was loaned with the best possible intentions by all sides. He didn't add value to our team at that time and so lost/failed to gain his place. That's no-one's fault unless the player is not quite as good as everyone thought. Oh dear- read what was actually said and in the actual context. It's pretty simple even for a fan. Oh dear - Lee Johnson's a dreamer, just like "spudski" and "marina" and me and the people fantasising about Tammy returning, and the people that imagined a "Barcelona" here in Bristol, and the people imagining an arena in this city (there's dreamland for you), and so on. All is dream. We are all in "dreamland," (and it's not a criticism or a slight, it's a simple fact. Sometimes, good things come from being in "dreamland," sadly though, more often nothing comes of it) only some appear to be completely oblivious to this. But never mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Probably been mentioned and i certainly did when he left; someone at City dropped a right clanger bringing him in and it cost SL hundreds of thousands by all accounts. Ashton? Again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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