man in the middle Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 It was supposed to be 20,000 but they were forced to reduce the size due to planning issues. As for competing in the Championship, I would say they are currently thriving in the Championship, and this move will help them become even more sustainable at this level. I said on here the other day; I wouldn't be surprised if they become the 50th club to play Premier League football - beating us to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I guess they just haven’t got the room for anything bigger, look how hemmed in it is by the flats etc. If they want to stay in the area and keep true to their roots that’s what they have gone for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 That's still around 5000 more than the capacity they currently have, and is also around 6000 more seats than Bournemouth's stadium, and they're doing OK in the Premier League. It's not all about how many fans you get through the door any more. There's more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbo Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: It was supposed to be 20,000 but they were forced to reduce the size due to planning issues. As for competing in the Championship, I would say they are currently thriving in the Championship, and this move will help them become even more sustainable at this level. I said on here the other day; I wouldn't be surprised if they become the 50th club to play Premier League football - beating us to it. Not sure the Premier League could cope with 50 clubs. Think of the fixture congestion. Especially around Christmas. Suppose they could not have a winter break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbasso Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: It was supposed to be 20,000 but they were forced to reduce the size due to planning issues. As for competing in the Championship, I would say they are currently thriving in the Championship, and this move will help them become even more sustainable at this level. I said on here the other day; I wouldn't be surprised if they become the 50th club to play Premier League football - beating us to it. Agreed, it’s just as much about facilities as capacity and they’re currently doing brilliantly in an old fashioned 11,000 capacity ground. This new stadium looks just the job for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 Bournmouth can sustain prem football on 11.5k, Vicarage Road only hold 21.5k, Its a good start for brentford as long as its got room for expansion and is better then what they currently have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: Bournmouth can sustain prem football on 11.5k, Vicarage Road only hold 21.5k, Its a good start for brentford as long as its got room for expansion and is better then what they currently have Swansea is only around 21,000 too. One of the Stewards told me it was built so they could expand one day but all that is shelved now. And of course it is shared with rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Cracking video here, didn't realise they already had part of one of the stands up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 As mentioned by others, football is no longer about how many fans you get through the door which is sad. This article published a couple of weeks ago shows that 11 clubs in the Premier League would've made a profit in 2017 even if nobody attended a single game, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 Gawd, did anyone else hear that weird noise earlier? Frightened me to death, such a low moaning groan type of thing, creepy and spooky at first.... Then I discovered it was just a bunch of desperately inconsolable Gasheads who'd clicked onto the above link and in an outpouring of grief and jealously an overbearing realisation of just how far Bristol Rovers are behind everyone else in the credible footballing world they let out an unearthly collective howl of desperation from their campsite in the wilderness... 'orrible it were too... # Mob Gnarley & The Waellers … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 38 minutes ago, Coppello said: As mentioned by others, football is no longer about how many fans you get through the door which is sad. This article published a couple of weeks ago shows that 11 clubs in the Premier League would've made a profit in 2017 even if nobody attended a single game, Agree but you have to get there in the 1st place to reap the rewards. All we hear from BCFC is they need to increase turnover to compete in the championship so I can’t see having a small stadium helping to get to the premiership. although they Always do consistently better than BCFC up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Would there be a demand for much more than that? I don't know how close to the existing capacity they currently are, but even if they were to reach the Premiership soon, and you take into consideration larger away support, would they want anything bigger? With all due respect, even if they got to the Premiership this season, because of the number of clubs in and around London, they're not likely to attract many additional "floating fans" to bump the attendances up much higher than the 17k or so they're planning for. It's sensible planning - why live beyond your means? Besides as others have mentioned, Bournemouth seem to be doing ok. Nobody wants to play in a new 30k+ state of the art stadium that is only half occupied..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 That is exactly the kind of project that Rovers should have realistically been aiming for, rather than their pie in the Sky proposals over the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 As said 6000 odd more seats and probably has more capacity for non matchday revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: That is exactly the kind of project that Rovers should have realistically been aiming for, rather than their * PIE in the Sky proposals over the past 30 years. Ironically it's not the PIE's that have been their problem in recent years, they're rather good apparently, it's EVERY F'ING THING ELSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City exile 79 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: That is exactly the kind of project that Rovers should have realistically been aiming for, rather than their pie in the Sky proposals over the past 30 years. Don’t be silly. Nowhere near big enough for them. 30,000 minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 Burnley, Huddersfield, Wigan, Blackpool, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham and QPR all spring to mind as clubs that have been promoted to the Premier League while having an average attendance under 20k. 17k is enough to allow Brentford to compete for promotion - and you’re assuming they would need more than that anyway, which would probably only be the case once they got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southstandoriginal Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, City exile 79 said: Don’t be silly. Nowhere near big enough for them. 30,000 minimum They might settle for 27001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 I give you Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 hours ago, man in the middle said: Brentford’s new stadium, Lionel Road due to open 2020 only holds 17,250, Whats the point? Surely they won’t ever be able to compete financially in the Championship with a stadium that small? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45333562 Lionel Road? Fortress Lionel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, pillred said: I give you Bournemouth. Great …. Can I have two weeks self catering next July please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Competing in the Championship with regard to stadium size has far less to do with capacity and far more to do with facilities which can be used 7 days a week. To put it into context, Liverpool spent £260m on a 8,250 capacity improvement. You can't tell me that was purely for the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Taz said: Would there be a demand for much more than that? I don't know how close to the existing capacity they currently are, but even if they were to reach the Premiership soon, and you take into consideration larger away support, would they want anything bigger? With all due respect, even if they got to the Premiership this season, because of the number of clubs in and around London, they're not likely to attract many additional "floating fans" to bump the attendances up much higher than the 17k or so they're planning for. It's sensible planning - why live beyond your means? Besides as others have mentioned, Bournemouth seem to be doing ok. Nobody wants to play in a new 30k+ state of the art stadium that is only half occupied..... MK Dons, Bradford and Coventry all know what that feels like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 MC Grindah should get a pretty good view from his flat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: It was supposed to be 20,000 but they were forced to reduce the size due to planning issues. As for competing in the Championship, I would say they are currently thriving in the Championship, and this move will help them become even more sustainable at this level. I said on here the other day; I wouldn't be surprised if they become the 50th club to play Premier League football - beating us to it. That ground would dwarf Bournemouth's as well.Premier league clubs are increasingly non dependent upon attendances provided they stay in there of course !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santibello Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Taz said: Would there be a demand for much more than that? I don't know how close to the existing capacity they currently are, but even if they were to reach the Premiership soon, and you take into consideration larger away support, would they want anything bigger? With all due respect, even if they got to the Premiership this season, because of the number of clubs in and around London, they're not likely to attract many additional "floating fans" to bump the attendances up much higher than the 17k or so they're planning for. It's sensible planning - why live beyond your means? Besides as others have mentioned, Bournemouth seem to be doing ok. Nobody wants to play in a new 30k+ state of the art stadium that is only half occupied..... I currently live nearby and the seem to be sold out out every week, but the fans complain about season ticket holders not showing up at every match and wasting their seats. But their tickets are dirt cheap as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: It was supposed to be 20,000 but they were forced to reduce the size due to planning issues. As for competing in the Championship, I would say they are currently thriving in the Championship, and this move will help them become even more sustainable at this level. I said on here the other day; I wouldn't be surprised if they become the 50th club to play Premier League football - beating us to it. This.... 5 hours ago, Coxy27 said: That's still around 5000 more than the capacity they currently have, and is also around 6000 more seats than Bournemouth's stadium, and they're doing OK in the Premier League. It's not all about how many fans you get through the door any more. There's more to it than that. ....and this Their recruitment model and the success of it means ground size is not as important, but an increase of 50% capacity will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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