Leveller Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45344696 Intriguing story, though I don't think its been picked up here. A non league club - just formed, twelfth tier - decided to dedicate their away shirts to the members of the International Brigades who went to Spain to fight fascism in the 1930's. As a result, instead of the 250 expected sales, they've sold 2500, mostly to Spaniards and can't cope with the rush of orders. They've also had to register for VAT and increase the shirt price by £5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 31, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Leveller said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45344696 Intriguing story, though I don't think its been picked up here. A non league club - just formed, twelfth tier - decided to dedicate their away shirts to the members of the International Brigades who went to Spain to fight fascism in the 1930's. As a result, instead of the 250 expected sales, they've sold 2500, mostly to Spaniards and can't cope with the rush of orders. They've also had to register for VAT and increase the shirt price by £5. Saw this yesterday, I was more amazed a side that far down the pyramid expected to sell 250 shirts originally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 That's a great story. Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Just now, phantom said: Saw this yesterday, I was more amazed a side that far down the pyramid expected to sell 250 shirts originally They are newly formed, fan owned and had upwards of 350 club members prior to extra Spanish ones joining so I think that is a reasonable estimate of what they'd sell. You'd have to be pretty invested in a new club to become a member I should think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 They shall not pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 A bit more info and pictures in the Guardian. 'No pasarán': Spain laps up Clapton CFC's anti-fascist football kit https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/31/no-pasaran-clapton-cfc-anti-fascist-football-kit-proves-hit-in-spain?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 A great story. I want one. Ill tell Mrs OXO what I would like for my Birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's a nice looking shirt too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Formed this year as a fan-owned club after breaking away from Clapton FC who were a founding member of the Southern League and therefore a team City would have played against in the 1890s. Their website - claptoncfc.co.uk - gives some info on the reasons for breaking away from Clapton FC. I shall be getting a shirt. No Pasaran! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince82 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Its a very nice story indeed. however i have my doubts. Having been involved in lower level football for quite some time i would like to know how a club (only just formed) and in the 12th tier of football (step 7 of non league football) can expect to shift around 250 shirts a season. I know many many clubs at higher levels that would dream of selling 250 shirts, in fact if you added all shirts sales from every club in the western 1st division (Step 6) you will find that 250 is a realistic total for the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Great story. Good to see a club positioning itself as overtly anti-fascist with so many far right organisations using football as a recruiting ground for their hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, redsince82 said: Its a very nice story indeed. however i have my doubts. Having been involved in lower level football for quite some time i would like to know how a club (only just formed) and in the 12th tier of football (step 7 of non league football) can expect to shift around 250 shirts a season. I know many many clubs at higher levels that would dream of selling 250 shirts, in fact if you added all shirts sales from every club in the western 1st division (Step 6) you will find that 250 is a realistic total for the division. They're a very well known club at a non-league level, mostly for their ultras. 250 is not a surprise at all for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 The FA will put a stop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: The FA will put a stop to it. Good point, otherwise how could a swastik be opposed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Drew Peacock said: The FA will put a stop to it. Them or UEFA/FIFA . Regardless of your political stance, (and lets be fair how many were around when the Spanish civil war was happening) One side was backed by Fascist Hitler, the other by Communist Stalin, so the notion that one lot was nice and the other nasty is a bit simplistic, although the evidence is that Spain didn't prosper under Franco, except he stayed out of WW2 which was probably best for all concerned.. Consider this. There are currently thousands of people fighting for a cause in a foreign country against what they believe to be oppression of their brothers and sisters. They are called Isis and include idealistic Britons just like back in 1930's Spain, so I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if the football authorities stamp on this to prevent some rag bag Iranian club side getting the printing kit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP3 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Good point Loon Plague. However, my understanding is that the Republicans didn't share the Stalin idealism, but rejected the Fascism of the Nationalists who did share Hitler's ideology. Although they gladly accepted arms and volunteers from Stalin, they would have preferred military support from France (Who were considering it) Britain, US etc. Atrocities committed by both sides but there is a simplistic good v evil there. Football Forum....oh.....nice shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 6 hours ago, redsince82 said: Its a very nice story indeed. however i have my doubts. Having been involved in lower level football for quite some time i would like to know how a club (only just formed) and in the 12th tier of football (step 7 of non league football) can expect to shift around 250 shirts a season. I know many many clubs at higher levels that would dream of selling 250 shirts, in fact if you added all shirts sales from every club in the western 1st division (Step 6) you will find that 250 is a realistic total for the division. The club has been turned into a cause celebtre by leftists in London. Lots of waving antifa banners along with flags in support of Palestine and the PKK at non league clubs which are hardly hotbeds of fascism, or have any anti or pro view on Kurdistan ... Its a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, MJP3 said: Good point Loon Plague. However, my understanding is that the Republicans didn't share the Stalin idealism, but rejected the Fascism of the Nationalists who did share Hitler's ideology. Although they gladly accepted arms and volunteers from Stalin, they would have preferred military support from France (Who were considering it) Britain, US etc. Atrocities committed by both sides but there is a simplistic good v evil there. Football Forum....oh.....nice shirt. Its Plage actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Red Army Faction said: Great story. Good to see a club positioning itself as overtly anti-fascist with so many far right organisations using football as a recruiting ground for their hate. Why do football teams have to get involved in such political nonsense whether it's right wing or antifa. Both sides are full of bellends. Cant we just enjoy a bit of an escape from the real world every now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Why do football teams have to get involved in such political nonsense whether it's right wing or antifa. Both sides are full of bellends. Cant we just enjoy a bit of an escape from the real world every now and again. I think its a publicity stunt to tap into a sector of society who (in the main) have no football allegiances. Could well be wrong before i'm challenged, just a feeling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Helmets in the ground indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Why do football teams have to get involved in such political nonsense whether it's right wing or antifa. Both sides are full of bellends. Cant we just enjoy a bit of an escape from the real world every now and again. Can't insulate football from politics unfortunately. The difference for me is that if you have a club like Lazio that tacitly condones their right wing supporters, then you have a club that is saying certain sections of the community - blacks, Jews, immigrants, gays - aren't welcome. If you are a club positioning yourself as overtly anti-fascist then the only ones you are saying aren't welcome are fascists - those that aren't tolerant of those sections of society. Simplistic maybe, but personally I know what kind of club I'd prefer to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Simplistic, or maybe downright idiotic and sick to have as your name and avatar the badge of a terrorist organisation that killed 34 and carried out 296 bombings. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 59 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Simplistic, or maybe downright idiotic and sick to have as your name and avatar the badge of a terrorist organisation that killed 34 and carried out 296 bombings. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction Fair comment. More of a dedication to Joe Strummer than RAF. (He used to wear a RAF t shirt). My original name (Redskin) from long, long ago was taken. Red Army was taken. And my views seems to be largely in the minority on here so the Faction bit seemed to work, so I went with Red Army Faction. I have considered changing it on a number of occasions. Maybe I will. Edit:. Looks like Redskin has come available, so that's me now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Redskin said: Fair comment. More of a dedication to Joe Strummer than RAF. (He used to wear a RAF t shirt). My original name (Redskin) from long, long ago was taken. Red Army was taken. And my views seems to be largely in the minority on here so the Faction bit seemed to work, so I went with Red Army Faction. I have considered changing it on a number of occasions. Maybe I will. Edit:. Looks like Redskin has come available, so that's me now!! Cheers, appreciated. I didn't know the Joe Strummer back story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Cheers, appreciated. I didn't know the Joe Strummer back story. No worries. Understandable how choosing RAF could be taken as support for them. So, you support the German Nazi Party then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: Simplistic, or maybe downright idiotic and sick to have as your name and avatar the badge of a terrorist organisation that killed 34 and carried out 296 bombings. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction One man’s terrorists are another man’s freedom fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Edward Elizabeth Hitler was taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Redskin said: No worries. Understandable how choosing RAF could be taken as support for them. So, you support the German Nazi Party then.... Someone of less historical import! 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Edward Elizabeth Hitler was taken By me on Ziderheads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Someone of less historical import! By me on Ziderheads! Yeah, I did get the reference, Eddie. Just messing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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