reddogkev Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Something to chew on over the International Break - I think we've assembled a talent pool good enough to go up. I'm not saying we will be promoted this season, that's a tad too insanely-optimistic for this stage of the season, but I like the chance we've given ourselves. I also like the fact that Elliason has really upped his game and looks like an assist machine; much to the delight of Weimann. Thanks to AW'S sublime finishing, he could be in for a 20+ season. I wouldn't be surprised if Famara also got near this mark. You'd imagine Lloyd Kelly will go from strength to strength as the season progresses, and who knows how good he will be? The sky seems to be his limit. For me, the missing piece of the puzzle was Kalas, he is a phenomenal defender, has 2 promotions under his belt and will be pushing hard for a third. The strength in the squad is very impressive, and we still have the unknown factor of Adelukun and whether he will adapt to the Championship, something else to look forward. In an ideal world I'd add another central midfielder, and the GK spot could be improved upon, but Brownhill could be on course to have his finest season for us and Maeenppa plus FF might be all we needs this season between the sticks. Now, LJ and the guys, take it away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 lets not get carried away kev, this team is a mid table team, its not finished we're short of quality in a few positions and lack depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl1 Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Something to chew on over the International Break - I think we've assembled a talent pool good enough to go up. I'm not saying we will be promoted this season, that's a tad too insanely-optimistic for this stage of the season, but I like the chance we've given ourselves. I also like the fact that Elliason has really upped his game and looks like an assist machine; much to the delight of Weimann. Thanks to AW'S sublime finishing, he could be in for a 20+ season. I wouldn't be surprised if Famara also got near this mark. You'd imagine Lloyd Kelly will go from strength to strength as the season progresses, and who knows how good he will be? The sky seems to be his limit. For me, the missing piece of the puzzle was Kalas, he is a phenomenal defender, has 2 promotions under his belt and will be pushing hard for a third. The strength in the squad is very impressive, and we still have the unknown factor of Adelukun and whether he will adapt to the Championship, something else to look forward. In an ideal world I'd add another central midfielder, and the GK spot could be improved upon, but Brownhill could be on course to have his finest season for us and Maeenppa plus FF might be all we needs this season between the sticks. Now, LJ and the guys, take it away! Like your PMA. I think we are generally stronger than last season with a real game changer in Eliasson trickery. If we could add a play making midfielder and perhaps a GK I think we are looking at a top 8 or 10 side. I do get the feeling the club is trying to take small steps forward each season rather than just throwing huge amounts of money at it. i have been following city since 81 and honestly this seems the most settled and focussed we have ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, Monkeh said: lets not get carried away kev, this team is a mid table team, its not finished we're short of quality in a few positions and lack depth Think we've got more depth than before tbh- a proper challenger to Fielding, 4 good CBs, a variety of options out wide... Still inclined to think mid-table with good football and some scalps overall though, but we have the depth and competition aspect in some other areas which we lacked last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 We're progressing again season on season, which is all you can ask for realistically, and is even more impressive given the caliber of players we've lost each season for the last 3/4. I'd like to think that the club have targetted a top 10 finish to start the season. Anything better is simply a bonus at this stage. If we're still going strong come January, then perhaps we look to strengthen for a play off push in the second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Have you not been familiar with this feeling the past couple of seasons for us to sudddnly crash and burn on some horrific form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I'll remember this thread and reply with the link on @reddogkev's thread titled 'Johnson must go now!' in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Over a season with suspensions, injuries, out of form players, poor decisions, I see this squad as something between mid table and maybe at a push the last play off place if things went our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, spudski said: Over a season with suspensions, injuries, out of form players, poor decisions, We've had all that every game this season. And we're in the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 In my opinion we would need a lot of luck to even finish in the play offs and then anything can happen. Even if you look at our first few games, we look like we can score or concede at any point. Maybe the team / squad will gel as the season goes on and look more solid and even then I feel we will still be around the 10th position. I've not got massive expectations for the season ahead but I think that it is a healthy mind set to have. We could do an England and pleasantly surprise people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 The OP is correct and possibly also incorrect. It is impossible to ignore the fact that all Johnson teams, Oldham, Barnsley and City twice, have imploded for long periods of the last four seasons. If we are consistent, this squad appears good enough to keep us in upper mid table throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Think we've got more depth than before tbh- a proper challenger to Fielding, 4 good CBs, a variety of options out wide... Still inclined to think mid-table with good football and some scalps overall though, but we have the depth and competition aspect in some other areas which we lacked last year. I don't think he is a challenger to Fielding, in my view he is clearly our number 1 keeper. I would be extremely disappointed if he loses his place. He is the best keeper we have had for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, wendyredredrobin said: I don't think he is a challenger to Fielding, in my view he is clearly our number 1 keeper. I would be extremely disappointed if he loses his place. He is the best keeper we have had for a while now. I think he means more that if his performances start to dip there will be more consequences and he’ll be more easily dropped than before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I suspect that the league table will look very much different in late April. In what way though? Well who knows. That's the imponderable attraction of being a footie fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: It is impossible to ignore the fact that all Johnson teams, Oldham, Barnsley and City twice, have imploded for long periods of the last four seasons. Can’t argue with facts......but for every optimist there’s a pessimist. Like others, although we’re only six games in I can see a top 10 team that hopefully are pushing for pray place after 35 games or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 6, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 There are many squads with more talented players in this division but LJ has put together a squad that fits the style he wants to play. On their day they can be a match for anyone in this division but it's just a question of how often we have that day. Last season the games and thin squad caught up with us and in the second half of the season we rarely had that day. The squad seems a bit deeper this season (though an extra CM early in January would be appreciated) and this season's success will boil down to how effectively LJ manages to rotate key positions to keep players fresh and injury free. I like Maenpaa but I'd also be going back for Steffen in January and seeing if they will deal once their season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 On another day QPR and Blackburn would of had us beat in the first half when we were truly shocking. I think mid table will be a good effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I don't think he is a challenger to Fielding, in my view he is clearly our number 1 keeper. I would be extremely disappointed if he loses his place. He is the best keeper we have had for a while now. He's good actually yeah- think the competition for places will help the team though, keep both keepers sharp- because in the event something happens to Maeneppa, or he hits a bad patch- well we have a Championship ready keeper who has done us fine down the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Nope. Middlesbrough, Aston Villa, Leeds, Derby etc etc. We are doing well and I’m happy and the LJ haters are wrong but.....no chance of going up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 This team is good enough to get promoted. There are also a handful of teams that, on paper, are better than ours. Since only a handful of teams win promotion, that would mean that "good enough" doesn't mean shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 This squad and management could have us finishing anywhere between 3rd and 14th in my opinion. That’s what makes it so exciting. Everyone should try to enjoy it if they can. So much moaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, RedDave said: This squad and management could have us finishing anywhere between 3rd and 14th in my opinion. That’s what makes it so exciting. Everyone should try to enjoy it if they can. So much moaning I wouldn't know what else to talk about here if i couldn't moan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EmissionImpossible said: Nope. Middlesbrough, Aston Villa, Leeds, Derby etc etc. We are doing well and I’m happy and the LJ haters are wrong but.....no chance of going up this year. No chance of Leicester winning Prem, Denmark winning Euros, Greece winning Euros, Cardiff going up....we love football as there is always a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradleyStokeRed Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Feeling really positive with the current squad. One area that is weak is centre midfield however, one injury or suspension to either Pack or Brownhill and feel we could be struggling especially with K.Smith out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I think the real test of this new look team will come when we lose a game or hit a bad patch. Evidence of how we are progressing will be seen through how LJ and the team respond (hopefully not another losing streak). My glass is half full honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, Robbored said: Can’t argue with facts......but for every optimist there’s a pessimist. Like others, although we’re only six games in I can see a top 10 team that hopefully are pushing for pray place after 35 games or so. Typical of you to omit and ignore my last sentence which states that if we are consistent, we'll be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Something to chew on over the International Break - I think we've assembled a talent pool good enough to go up. I'm not saying we will be promoted this season, that's a tad too insanely-optimistic for this stage of the season, but I like the chance we've given ourselves. I also like the fact that Elliason has really upped his game and looks like an assist machine; much to the delight of Weimann. Thanks to AW'S sublime finishing, he could be in for a 20+ season. I wouldn't be surprised if Famara also got near this mark. You'd imagine Lloyd Kelly will go from strength to strength as the season progresses, and who knows how good he will be? The sky seems to be his limit. For me, the missing piece of the puzzle was Kalas, he is a phenomenal defender, has 2 promotions under his belt and will be pushing hard for a third. The strength in the squad is very impressive, and we still have the unknown factor of Adelukun and whether he will adapt to the Championship, something else to look forward. In an ideal world I'd add another central midfielder, and the GK spot could be improved upon, but Brownhill could be on course to have his finest season for us and Maeenppa plus FF might be all we needs this season between the sticks. Now, LJ and the guys, take it away! Kev. Thought you may of learned from last season after you’re statements of. We’re definitly making the play offs / going up. I still blame you for it not happening . Calm yer skin down mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, supercidered said: In my opinion we would need a lot of luck to even finish in the play offs and then anything can happen. Even if you look at our first few games, we look like we can score or concede at any point. Maybe the team / squad will gel as the season goes on and look more solid and even then I feel we will still be around the 10th position. I've not got massive expectations for the season ahead but I think that it is a healthy mind set to have. We could do an England and pleasantly surprise people. And ultimately achieve **** all after failing against a team we would have reasonable expectations to beat. England didn't actually have to beat anyone decent to go so far and when they played a good side they lost However.... We are just into September. 8th - 12th with a consistent run of results would be progress in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Think we've got more depth than before tbh- a proper challenger to Fielding, 4 good CBs, a variety of options out wide... Still inclined to think mid-table with good football and some scalps overall though, but we have the depth and competition aspect in some other areas which we lacked last year. This, but if we hit a run of form maybe an outside chance of the play offs? Maybe too optimistic there. I still think we will lose some silly games that on paper should be victories and we’ll beat a few that we ‘shouldn’t’. Still a young team and manager so will be a rollercoaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, Super said: On another day QPR and Blackburn would of had us beat in the first half when we were truly shocking. I think mid table will be a good effort. We are a new team and while looking vulnerable, we are now grinding out the results. One defeat in six is OK. The next match will give us a good insight into how we are as Sheffield United are always a difficult side to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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