New Dazzler Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Maths is not my strongest point but so many posts seem to state this (incorrect) fact. I am sure that LJ and some of the pundits have also stated this. Surely we have Sheff U, WBA and Wigan in a 7 day period. Unless I am totally wrong in thinking that Sat/Sun/Mon/Tues/Weds/Thurs/Fri represents 7 days. And presumably it is the same for Wigan so, whilst I fully appreciate that rotation/player management comes into a sharper focus as we play on Friday night, instead of a few hours later on a Saturday afternoon, there is no great disadvantage to us because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 19/09/2018 at 01:15, New Dazzler said: Maths is not my strongest point but so many posts seem to state this (incorrect) fact. I am sure that LJ and some of the pundits have also stated this. Surely we have Sheff U, WBA and Wigan in a 7 day period. Unless I am totally wrong in thinking that Sat/Sun/Mon/Tues/Weds/Thurs/Fri represents 7 days. And presumably it is the same for Wigan so, whilst I fully appreciate that rotation/player management comes into a sharper focus as we play on Friday night, instead of a few hours later on a Saturday afternoon, there is no great disadvantage to us because of this? Sorry to reply to my own post, but the commentators, pundits and virtually every interview referred to 3 games in 6 days tonight!! Am I actually wrong in saying that we have played 3 games in 7 days? Please explain how it could ever be calculated as 3 in 6.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, New Dazzler said: Sorry to reply to my own post, but the commentators, pundits and virtually every interview referred to 3 games in 6 days tonight!! Am I actually wrong in saying that we have played 3 games in 7 days? Please explain how it could ever be calculated as 3 in 6.. It’s 3 games in 6 days, 3 hours and 45 minutes. 15:00 Saturday to 19:45 Friday. Its includes 7 days on a calendar, but Elaine’s time its my first sentence. At the end of the day, Wigan has exactly the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Tough schedule and both sides must have been suffering from fatigue. But only one team looked like they wanted to be out there playing tonight, the other looked like they'd prefer to be out on the lash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s 3 games in 6 days, 3 hours and 45 minutes. 15:00 Saturday to 19:45 Friday. Its includes 7 days on a calendar, but Elaine’s time its my first sentence. At the end of the day, Wigan has exactly the same! But they had consecutive home matches, we were away last two...big difference in recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: Tough schedule and both sides must have been suffering from fatigue. But only one team looked like they wanted to be out there playing tonight, the other looked like they'd prefer to be out on the lash. Ahh well it breathes new oxygen into the lungs of the likes of the out brigade. Amazed at the amount of newish poster on the match day thread to-night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: But they had consecutive home matches, we were away last two...big difference in recovery. Not in today’s day and age it’s not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Not in today’s day and age it’s not Of course it is a factor, home advantage and all the other factors like travel and conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 1bristolcity said: Of course it is a factor, home advantage and all the other factors like travel and conditioning. I think you can forget home advantage when you are playing at Wigan and travel and conditioning at this point in the season will have the slightest affect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: I think you can forget home advantage when you are playing at Wigan and travel and conditioning at this point in the season will have the slightest affect It is such a soulless place, no atmosphere, we never seem to do well at these sort of venues, but I am pretty sure those schedule of matches impacted on the performance tonight, of course LJ would not / could not say that, but it must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Looks like we have to consider another loss next Friday, that would be three on the bounce, leaving us mid table with 14 from 10, but the fixtures have been demanding, looking forward to some 'easier' looking matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: It is such a soulless place, no atmosphere, we never seem to do well at these sort of venues, but I am pretty sure those schedule of matches impacted on the performance tonight, of course LJ would not / could not say that, but it must have. shouldn't this favour the away side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I am also thinking that, despite the win against Sheff Utd on Saturday, a return of 3 points from 3 games (including tonight's LJ declared "embarrassment" of a performance), means that the dreaded post international break diabolically bad form syndrome has not gone away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: But they had consecutive home matches, we were away last two...big difference in recovery. So our plan to travel on from West Brom, didn’t have the desired effect then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: shouldn't this favour the away side? Depends, it can work both ways I suppose, but clearly they coped better. 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So our plan to travel on from West Brom, didn’t have the desired effect then. Looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 A lot on here were saying we would win. 4-0 4-1... I never thought that, not with the trauma that was Tuesday, however we should have a squad that has much more about them than they displayed to-night need a leader, Smith being out doesn't help, Flint gone, guess we are short in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Wanderingred said: Tough schedule and both sides must have been suffering from fatigue. But only one team looked like they wanted to be out there playing tonight, the other looked like they'd prefer to be out on the lash. Fatigue? You really must be joking. Footballers today are pampered yet supremely fit athletes. What have they done since losing at WBA on Tuesday? An hour's coach journey to Manchester area Tuesday evening. Wednesday a couple of hours training/debriefing/tactics for Wigan. Went to Man City match. Thursday. Same as Wednesday except no Man City match. Friday. Light training. Resting all afternoon. Match v Wigan. No wonder we didn't perform. They must have been totally worn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Fatigue? You really must be joking. Footballers today are pampered yet supremely fit athletes. What have they done since losing at WBA on Tuesday? An hour's coach journey to Manchester area Tuesday evening. Wednesday a couple of hours training/debriefing/tactics for Wigan. Went to Man City match. Thursday. Same as Wednesday except no Man City match. Friday. Light training. Resting all afternoon. Match v Wigan. No wonder we didn't perform. They must have been totally worn out. I'm not joking no. Seems like you've never played football. I wasn't using it as an excuse for our performance anyway. s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, 1bristolcity said: It is such a soulless place, no atmosphere, we never seem to do well at these sort of venues, but I am pretty sure those schedule of matches impacted on the performance tonight, of course LJ would not / could not say that, but it must have. Sounded like an atmosphere on the tv, could hear Wigan fans all game ( I realise they place microphones in clever places) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: Fatigue? You really must be joking. Footballers today are pampered yet supremely fit athletes. What have they done since losing at WBA on Tuesday? An hour's coach journey to Manchester area Tuesday evening. Wednesday a couple of hours training/debriefing/tactics for Wigan. Went to Man City match. Thursday. Same as Wednesday except no Man City match. Friday. Light training. Resting all afternoon. Match v Wigan. No wonder we didn't perform. They must have been totally worn out. Muscle soreness from Tuesday would have started to kick in Wednesday maybe into Thursday so light training and intense recovery efforts id imagine. doesnt matter what your level of fitness or ability, playing at 100% of what you’ve got is still 100% and will take its toll, and then that’s assuming that all you’ve done is run. Doesn’t account for the twists, turns, kicks, knocks etc you pick up and then factor in that very rarely is every player on the pitch ever at 100% throughout the course of a season. im not using it as an excuse as Wigan will have the same issues but always bugs me seeing the “they’re too athletes they don’t get tired” posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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