Fuming

[Davefevs]

...and I watched it in the comfort of my own front room.  I feel for those hardy souls who travelled north tonight.

I wrote some things at half-time, because I didn’t want an Improved second half performance cloud my judgement of what I expected to be a better second half.

11 games in and I'm seeing little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play.  Odd glimpses here and there, and that’s taking into account that we have no Devine right to dominate for 90 minutes more.  Rotherham with their simple brand of knock it up to Smith and get runners off of him, played better through the thirds too, which LJ should be appalled at.  Don’t let two shots against woodwork cloud our view that we deserved to win.  Haven’t heard any interview, but having excused LJ for Wigan in the main, and held the blame at the players front, tonight is now a second performance like that and problems lie deeper.

I sense complacency in the ranks.  I see players hiding.  

I don’t like calling out players but it only takes one or two to impact it.

I’m gonna start with Diedhiou.  If he thinks that is a big, strong CF performance tonight he’s kidding himself.  Ajayi won good clean headers 80% of the time, the ball rarely stuck....but worse for me was the lack of effort.  Cosy closing down of the keeper, implying effort, but going through the motions, then jogging back, making little attempt to get back onside in preparation for the next phase.  Look at the example alongside him in Weimann.  In the second half there was a spell of head-tennis in their box.  Brownhill was about to have a free header back into the box and Famara got caught offside.  The same laziness that cost him a volleyed goal in the first half.  He half-heartedly made runs / didn’t make runs depending on your view.  Brownhill was furious with him late on when all he needed was Fam to pull wide, but he hid behind Jones causing him to run into a dead end.  That wasn’t the only time.  He’s beginning to worry me.  City won’t be his steppingstone to be the next Kodjia with performances like that.

The other is O’Dowda. He might be playing to instruction, but I don’t see why from Mäenpää’s kicks he is moving towards the ball from so far up the pitch.  He’s making it easy for his marker to attack the ball.  He needs to attack it from square (like Garner / Leon Best), that is much.  On the ball, it’s 100mph, no composure, over-running the dribble, running it into trouble.  I didn’t see the work rate of last season either.  Has International caps gone to his head?  Tonight was a(nother) chance to really stake a claim.  He failed the audition imho.

The two subs breathed some life into the game, but we should never have got into that position.  LJ could’ve tweaked things in-game without resorting to subs.  Surely a Head-Coach can spot ways to change the course of the game....or at least try.  2 subs on 60 minutes is now becoming a joke.  Had we snatched a win from Watkins, there’s no way I would be calling him a master tactician tonight.  It’s not like Rotherham were gutsy, they had it easy....and played under little pressure.

We are fortunate tonight that Rotherham weren’t very good (still better than us though).  We were fortunate that our defenders in the main turned up.  Webster gave Smith and easy ride, Baker did well, Kelly did his job, and Hunt was better than average.  We have however started to defend deeper (starting position) and our distances (front to back) are increasing.  Diedhiou is part of that.  I sense we are going to hear the ‘players we can trust’ phrase coming out before Wednesday on Sunday!

 

 

 

 

[Hampshire Red]

Calling out?!! We are one point off the play-offs a quarter of thwme way into a season with a new back 5.

You write well but fans will read your words if you talk about the other 15who are doing OK or week. That is what supporters want to read not 90%glass empty words like yours. 

HR

[ScottishRed]

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

...and I watched it in the comfort of my own front room.  I feel for those hardy souls who travelled north tonight.

I wrote some things at half-time, because I didn’t want an Improved second half performance cloud my judgement of what I expected to be a better second half.

11 games in and I'm seeing little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play.  Odd glimpses here and there, and that’s taking into account that we have no Devine right to dominate for 90 minutes more.  Rotherham with their simple brand of knock it up to Smith and get runners off of him, played better through the thirds too, which LJ should be appalled at.  Don’t let two shots against woodwork cloud our view that we deserved to win.  Haven’t heard any interview, but having excused LJ for Wigan in the main, and held the blame at the players front, tonight is now a second performance like that and problems lie deeper.

I sense complacency in the ranks.  I see players hiding.  

I don’t like calling out players but it only takes one or two to impact it.

I’m gonna start with Diedhiou.  If he thinks that is a big, strong CF performance tonight he’s kidding himself.  Ajayi won good clean headers 80% of the time, the ball rarely stuck....but worse for me was the lack of effort.  Cosy closing down of the keeper, implying effort, but going through the motions, then jogging back, making little attempt to get back onside in preparation for the next phase.  Look at the example alongside him in Weimann.  In the second half there was a spell of head-tennis in their box.  Brownhill was about to have a free header back into the box and Famara got caught offside.  The same laziness that cost him a volleyed goal in the first half.  He half-heartedly made runs / didn’t make runs depending on your view.  Brownhill was furious with him late on when all he needed was Fam to pull wide, but he hid behind Jones causing him to run into a dead end.  That wasn’t the only time.  He’s beginning to worry me.  City won’t be his steppingstone to be the next Kodjia with performances like that.

The other is O’Dowda. He might be playing to instruction, but I don’t see why from Mäenpää’s kicks he is moving towards the ball from so far up the pitch.  He’s making it easy for his marker to attack the ball.  He needs to attack it from square (like Garner / Leon Best), that is much.  On the ball, it’s 100mph, no composure, over-running the dribble, running it into trouble.  I didn’t see the work rate of last season either.  Has International caps gone to his head?  Tonight was a(nother) chance to really stake a claim.  He failed the audition imho.

The two subs breathed some life into the game, but we should never have got into that position.  LJ could’ve tweaked things in-game without resorting to subs.  Surely a Head-Coach can spot ways to change the course of the game....or at least try.  2 subs on 60 minutes is now becoming a joke.  Had we snatched a win from Watkins, there’s no way I would be calling him a master tactician tonight.  It’s not like Rotherham were gutsy, they had it easy....and played under little pressure.

We are fortunate tonight that Rotherham weren’t very good (still better than us though).  We were fortunate that our defenders in the main turned up.  Webster gave Smith and easy ride, Baker did well, Kelly did his job, and Hunt was better than average.  We have however started to defend deeper (starting position) and our distances (front to back) are increasing.  Diedhiou is part of that.  I sense we are going to hear the ‘players we can trust’ phrase coming out before Wednesday on Sunday!

 

 

 

 

Great post Dave.

I love the 'players i / we can trust' stuff because we can only be one or two games away from that. 

The question is , whose players are they now, I think we all know the answer.

Sadly, and it's only early October - #toocosy

[bh_red]

‘little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play’

 

commom theme, repeated consistently 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said:

Calling out?!! We are one point off the play-offs a quarter of thwme way into a season with a new back 5.

You write well but fans will read your words if you talk about the other 15who are doing OK or week. That is what supporters want to read not 90%glass empty words like yours. 

HR

Bu it was a rank awful performance.  Imho a big factor was Diedhiou and O’Dowda’s performance tonight (and a trend over a few performances).  I mentioned Hunt, Baker and Kelly....I didn’t think anyone else did much to warrant writing about in a post i’ve Titled “Fuming"....which is the way I feel.

I will contribute about the rest of the team on other threads, but this thread is about why I feel the way I do after tonight’s game.

I am far from being glass empty overall this season, but the last two away performances worry me.

I’m still (relatively) happy that we took a point, but not with the manner of the way we got it.  I don’t want us to be a team that only turns up at home or when the cameras are there.  LJ needs to work out why / where these performances have come from.

[Mr Popodopolous]

9 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said:

Calling out?!! We are one point off the play-offs a quarter of thwme way into a season with a new back 5.

You write well but fans will read your words if you talk about the other 15who are doing OK or week. That is what supporters want to read not 90%glass empty words like yours. 

HR

The results have been overall okay..a number of displays not so much. That's the problem IMO.

[BobBobSuperBob]

17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

...and I watched it in the comfort of my own front room.  I feel for those hardy souls who travelled north tonight.

I wrote some things at half-time, because I didn’t want an Improved second half performance cloud my judgement of what I expected to be a better second half.

11 games in and I'm seeing little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play.  Odd glimpses here and there, and that’s taking into account that we have no Devine right to dominate for 90 minutes more.  Rotherham with their simple brand of knock it up to Smith and get runners off of him, played better through the thirds too, which LJ should be appalled at.  Don’t let two shots against woodwork cloud our view that we deserved to win.  Haven’t heard any interview, but having excused LJ for Wigan in the main, and held the blame at the players front, tonight is now a second performance like that and problems lie deeper.

I sense complacency in the ranks.  I see players hiding.  

I don’t like calling out players but it only takes one or two to impact it.

I’m gonna start with Diedhiou.  If he thinks that is a big, strong CF performance tonight he’s kidding himself.  Ajayi won good clean headers 80% of the time, the ball rarely stuck....but worse for me was the lack of effort.  Cosy closing down of the keeper, implying effort, but going through the motions, then jogging back, making little attempt to get back onside in preparation for the next phase.  Look at the example alongside him in Weimann.  In the second half there was a spell of head-tennis in their box.  Brownhill was about to have a free header back into the box and Famara got caught offside.  The same laziness that cost him a volleyed goal in the first half.  He half-heartedly made runs / didn’t make runs depending on your view.  Brownhill was furious with him late on when all he needed was Fam to pull wide, but he hid behind Jones causing him to run into a dead end.  That wasn’t the only time.  He’s beginning to worry me.  City won’t be his steppingstone to be the next Kodjia with performances like that.

The other is O’Dowda. He might be playing to instruction, but I don’t see why from Mäenpää’s kicks he is moving towards the ball from so far up the pitch.  He’s making it easy for his marker to attack the ball.  He needs to attack it from square (like Garner / Leon Best), that is much.  On the ball, it’s 100mph, no composure, over-running the dribble, running it into trouble.  I didn’t see the work rate of last season either.  Has International caps gone to his head?  Tonight was a(nother) chance to really stake a claim.  He failed the audition imho.

The two subs breathed some life into the game, but we should never have got into that position.  LJ could’ve tweaked things in-game without resorting to subs.  Surely a Head-Coach can spot ways to change the course of the game....or at least try.  2 subs on 60 minutes is now becoming a joke.  Had we snatched a win from Watkins, there’s no way I would be calling him a master tactician tonight.  It’s not like Rotherham were gutsy, they had it easy....and played under little pressure.

We are fortunate tonight that Rotherham weren’t very good (still better than us though).  We were fortunate that our defenders in the main turned up.  Webster gave Smith and easy ride, Baker did well, Kelly did his job, and Hunt was better than average.  We have however started to defend deeper (starting position) and our distances (front to back) are increasing.  Diedhiou is part of that.  I sense we are going to hear the ‘players we can trust’ phrase coming out before Wednesday on Sunday!

 

 

 

 

Blimey Dave

When level headed posters like you are writing as such

I know there’s real issues and problems

 

Great post with so many good points

We are going nowhere , 

[General Zod]

LJ would have us believe we are all about energy, creativity and the infamous high press.  With the exception of a couple of games I’ve not seen any of this for 10 months now. We don’t have an identity (unless being known as the team that makes 2 subs on 60 minutes is something to be proud of) and at best we are stagnating and at worse we are going backwards under LJ management.

Sadly I believe we have a squad that is drastically selling itself short performance wise week in week out and the blame sits with LJ.   I think LJ is not learning or improving and is tactically out of his depth.  His in game management seems clueless more often than not.  I appreciate we have points on the board and aren’t that far off the top 6 but can anyone honestly say they are inspired with what they see week in week out?

[BobBobSuperBob]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The results have been overall okay..a number of displays not so much. That's the problem IMO.

Some continue not to actually open their eyes 

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Some continue not to actually open their eyes 

I thought we showed a fair amount of grit on Friday to weather the Villa storm at the start of the second half...I was encouraged by that.  Tonight we survived because we did “just enough”.  We wanted to coast and relied upon reactive defending, which the guys at the back did effectively in the main.

[RedRock]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Bu it was a rank awful performance.  Imho a big factor was Diedhiou and O’Dowda’s performance tonight (and a trend over a few performances).  I mentioned Hunt, Baker and Kelly....I didn’t think anyone else did much to warrant writing about in a post i’ve Titled “Fuming"....which is the way I feel.

I will contribute about the rest of the team on other threads, but this thread is about why I feel the way I do after tonight’s game.

I am far from being glass empty overall this season, but the last two away performances worry me.

I’m still (relatively) happy that we took a point, but not with the manner of the way we got it.  I don’t want us to be a team that only turns up at home or when the cameras are there.  LJ needs to work out why / where these performances have come from.

I suspect Eliasson escaped your wrath as you didn’t realise he was on the pitch.

That was the most inept performance from a City player I have witnessed for many a year... and I’ve seen a few. He was just prancing around like a patomime horse. He looked completely and utterly devoid of all confidence from the very first minute.

[BobBobSuperBob]

1 minute ago, Moor2Sea said:

I suspect Eliasson escaped your wrath as you didn’t realise he was on the pitch.

That was the most inept performance from a City player I have witnessed for many a year... and I’ve seen a few. He was just prancing around like a patomime horse. He looked completely and utterly devoid of all confidence from the very first minute.

He was poor but he is operating in a huff and puff (at best) side - hardly his forte

Mixed recruitment, muddled ethos , muddled muddled muddled 

[Denbury Red]

Rotherham did their homework on us - they pressed us and gave us no time to play the ball at our pace and that made the players panic. 

Sayong that - we clearly didn’t do enough homework on their play - as with an injury hit squad that was three points we should have been grabbing if we have delusions of getting anywhere near the top 6

[wendyredredrobin]

Diedhiou, ODowda and Eliasson were absent tonight.  I think ODowda is best on the left wing and Eliasson I have never been convinced about.  Diedhiou should remain benched until he has earned a start - is henotfit or is he just bloody lazy?

Brownhill is playing out of position because we have no replacement for Smith and that needs to be addressed in January.

On the plus side, our defence looks a bit better and we now have a goalkeeper I have trust in.

Clearlythe Weiman Taylor partnership works better than the Weimann Diedhiou partnership but what has happened to Andi - he started so well and its not through lack of effort, so something else is stunting his performances.

[BobBobSuperBob]

11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Some continue not to actually open their eyes 

I wasn’t referring to you @Mr Popodopolous if it sounded that way

I fully agree about your point performances v points 

[And Its Smith]

Not an ounce of composure between Elliason, Pack, Brownhill and Diedhiou first half. Impossible to play well when four of your 6 midfielders and strikers are that awful.

 

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, Moor2Sea said:

I suspect Eliasson escaped your wrath as you didn’t realise he was on the pitch.

That was the most inept performance from a City player I have witnessed for many a year... and I’ve seen a few. He was just prancing around like a patomime horse. He looked completely and utterly devoid of all confidence from the very first minute.

I mentioned him on another thread 

4 minutes ago, Denbury Red said:

Rotherham did their homework on us - they pressed us and gave us no time to play the ball at our pace and that made the players panic. 

Sayong that - we clearly didn’t do enough homework on their play - as with an injury hit squad that was three points we should have been grabbing if we have delusions of getting anywhere near the top 6

I don’t think they did press us (certainly not like Wigan) that hard, we just didn’t work hard enough off the ball to create angles / options.

[Robbored]

We miss KS hugely.....Brownhill/Pack are useful Championship players but as a two they are able to provide enough creativity into the team....that’s where the issues are imo. LJ obviously doesn’t see Walsh as an alternative.

Unfortunately I can’t see the situation changing even when the winter window opens. Quality midfielders simply  aren’t available 

[Judda]

You have to remember that more than half the championship clubs will be thinking the same.... it is a brilliant league but very hard to predict as anyone can beat anyone....

Cliches over!

[Curr Avon]

12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

We miss KS hugely.....Brownhill/Pack are useful Championship players but as a two they are able to provide enough creativity into the team....that’s where the issues are imo. LJ obviously doesn’t see Walsh as an alternative.

Unfortunately I can’t see the situation changing even when the winter window opens. Quality midfielders simply  aren’t available 

If that's the case then it's Brownhill and Pack every time, regardless of form, because we have no other specialist central midfield players until Korey returns. 

[havanatopia]

58 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Clearly the Weiman Taylor partnership works better than the Weimann Diedhiou partnership but what has happened to Andi - he started so well and its not through lack of effort, so something else is stunting his performances.

Weimann no longer receives decent crosses and cut throughs from Eliasson perhaps; who's form you and others say has collapsed?

[wendyredredrobin]

6 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

Weimann no longer receives decent crosses and cut throughs from Eliasson perhaps; who's form you and others say has collapsed?

Yep, you've hit the nail on the head havant, or at least partially so.  The other bit is thay Andi started with us playing his natural game and I guess he is now getting instructions to do things a bit differently. The bloke is quality and maybe we need to play to his game rather than the other way around. Lee please take note

[BobBobSuperBob]

1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said:

what has happened to Andi - he started so well and its not through lack of effort, so something else is stunting his performances.

He’s certainly getting frustrated and exasperated at times , with teammates - particularly noticeable in each of the last 3 games

[pillred]

1 hour ago, Hampshire Red said:

Calling out?!! We are one point off the play-offs a quarter of thwme way into a season with a new back 5.

You write well but fans will read your words if you talk about the other 15who are doing OK or week. That is what supporters want to read not 90%glass empty words like yours. 

HR

sorry but it wasn't a million miles from the truth, and if your honest with yourself you would agree, yes it's fairly early in the season but we have been inconsistent as we always seem to be, he is just saying it as it is, none of us are happy with it hope we have a more consistent season from here on in.

[bpexile]

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

...and I watched it in the comfort of my own front room.  I feel for those hardy souls who travelled north tonight.

I wrote some things at half-time, because I didn’t want an Improved second half performance cloud my judgement of what I expected to be a better second half.

11 games in and I'm seeing little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play.  Odd glimpses here and there, and that’s taking into account that we have no Devine right to dominate for 90 minutes more.  Rotherham with their simple brand of knock it up to Smith and get runners off of him, played better through the thirds too, which LJ should be appalled at.  Don’t let two shots against woodwork cloud our view that we deserved to win.  Haven’t heard any interview, but having excused LJ for Wigan in the main, and held the blame at the players front, tonight is now a second performance like that and problems lie deeper.

I sense complacency in the ranks.  I see players hiding.  

I don’t like calling out players but it only takes one or two to impact it.

I’m gonna start with Diedhiou.  If he thinks that is a big, strong CF performance tonight he’s kidding himself.  Ajayi won good clean headers 80% of the time, the ball rarely stuck....but worse for me was the lack of effort.  Cosy closing down of the keeper, implying effort, but going through the motions, then jogging back, making little attempt to get back onside in preparation for the next phase.  Look at the example alongside him in Weimann.  In the second half there was a spell of head-tennis in their box.  Brownhill was about to have a free header back into the box and Famara got caught offside.  The same laziness that cost him a volleyed goal in the first half.  He half-heartedly made runs / didn’t make runs depending on your view.  Brownhill was furious with him late on when all he needed was Fam to pull wide, but he hid behind Jones causing him to run into a dead end.  That wasn’t the only time.  He’s beginning to worry me.  City won’t be his steppingstone to be the next Kodjia with performances like that.

The other is O’Dowda. He might be playing to instruction, but I don’t see why from Mäenpää’s kicks he is moving towards the ball from so far up the pitch.  He’s making it easy for his marker to attack the ball.  He needs to attack it from square (like Garner / Leon Best), that is much.  On the ball, it’s 100mph, no composure, over-running the dribble, running it into trouble.  I didn’t see the work rate of last season either.  Has International caps gone to his head?  Tonight was a(nother) chance to really stake a claim.  He failed the audition imho.

The two subs breathed some life into the game, but we should never have got into that position.  LJ could’ve tweaked things in-game without resorting to subs.  Surely a Head-Coach can spot ways to change the course of the game....or at least try.  2 subs on 60 minutes is now becoming a joke.  Had we snatched a win from Watkins, there’s no way I would be calling him a master tactician tonight.  It’s not like Rotherham were gutsy, they had it easy....and played under little pressure.

We are fortunate tonight that Rotherham weren’t very good (still better than us though).  We were fortunate that our defenders in the main turned up.  Webster gave Smith and easy ride, Baker did well, Kelly did his job, and Hunt was better than average.  We have however started to defend deeper (starting position) and our distances (front to back) are increasing.  Diedhiou is part of that.  I sense we are going to hear the ‘players we can trust’ phrase coming out before Wednesday on Sunday!

 

 

 

 

Get your resume ready Dave, you may be needed, great post. 

As much as SL stuck with LJ last season surely with everything else going well at "The Gate" he would have to be mulling the situation over.

[Beni71]

8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

...and I watched it in the comfort of my own front room.  I feel for those hardy souls who travelled north tonight.

I wrote some things at half-time, because I didn’t want an Improved second half performance cloud my judgement of what I expected to be a better second half.

11 games in and I'm seeing little cohesion and little consistently in our style of play.  Odd glimpses here and there, and that’s taking into account that we have no Devine right to dominate for 90 minutes more.  Rotherham with their simple brand of knock it up to Smith and get runners off of him, played better through the thirds too, which LJ should be appalled at.  Don’t let two shots against woodwork cloud our view that we deserved to win.  Haven’t heard any interview, but having excused LJ for Wigan in the main, and held the blame at the players front, tonight is now a second performance like that and problems lie deeper.

I sense complacency in the ranks.  I see players hiding.  

I don’t like calling out players but it only takes one or two to impact it.

I’m gonna start with Diedhiou.  If he thinks that is a big, strong CF performance tonight he’s kidding himself.  Ajayi won good clean headers 80% of the time, the ball rarely stuck....but worse for me was the lack of effort.  Cosy closing down of the keeper, implying effort, but going through the motions, then jogging back, making little attempt to get back onside in preparation for the next phase.  Look at the example alongside him in Weimann.  In the second half there was a spell of head-tennis in their box.  Brownhill was about to have a free header back into the box and Famara got caught offside.  The same laziness that cost him a volleyed goal in the first half.  He half-heartedly made runs / didn’t make runs depending on your view.  Brownhill was furious with him late on when all he needed was Fam to pull wide, but he hid behind Jones causing him to run into a dead end.  That wasn’t the only time.  He’s beginning to worry me.  City won’t be his steppingstone to be the next Kodjia with performances like that.

The other is O’Dowda. He might be playing to instruction, but I don’t see why from Mäenpää’s kicks he is moving towards the ball from so far up the pitch.  He’s making it easy for his marker to attack the ball.  He needs to attack it from square (like Garner / Leon Best), that is much.  On the ball, it’s 100mph, no composure, over-running the dribble, running it into trouble.  I didn’t see the work rate of last season either.  Has International caps gone to his head?  Tonight was a(nother) chance to really stake a claim.  He failed the audition imho.

The two subs breathed some life into the game, but we should never have got into that position.  LJ could’ve tweaked things in-game without resorting to subs.  Surely a Head-Coach can spot ways to change the course of the game....or at least try.  2 subs on 60 minutes is now becoming a joke.  Had we snatched a win from Watkins, there’s no way I would be calling him a master tactician tonight.  It’s not like Rotherham were gutsy, they had it easy....and played under little pressure.

We are fortunate tonight that Rotherham weren’t very good (still better than us though).  We were fortunate that our defenders in the main turned up.  Webster gave Smith and easy ride, Baker did well, Kelly did his job, and Hunt was better than average.  We have however started to defend deeper (starting position) and our distances (front to back) are increasing.  Diedhiou is part of that.  I sense we are going to hear the ‘players we can trust’ phrase coming out before Wednesday on Sunday!

 

 

 

 

Good comments Dave, like you I was fuming at the end and also swearing at the TV and two points dropped.

We never got a foothold in midfield going forward or defensively. In the 1st half there were 3 or 4 long diagonals from Rotherham that caught our flanks exposed. Not sure if Eliasson or odowda were meant to press or defend and In the they did neither.

Interesting when Taylor came on against Ajay and he used he body well to get the ball down. One of the few times Ajay looked uncomfortable.

[ScottishRed]

3 hours ago, bpexile said:

Get your resume ready Dave, you may be needed, great post. 

As much as SL stuck with LJ last season surely with everything else going well at "The Gate" he would have to be mulling the situation over.

There is absolutely zero chance of that

[sglosbcfc]

Might be worth pointing out that as things stand we are in an improved league position for the fourth consecutive league season. I'm guessing 90% of the football league would bite your arm off for that.

[Jack Bailey]

Pack's first half performance should have been top of the OPs list at the break. Totally inept and was probably his worst ever performance in a red shirt. Second should have been both Eliasson and COD. I am sure they were told to keep their width but in doing so became almost invisible. Third should have been Webster defaulting to hoooooofin it at every opportunity giving it straight back to the opposition. There has to be changes for Sunday - Pack needs a game or two warming the bench, but it wont happen.

[TV Tom]

27 minutes ago, June Bailey said:

Pack's first half performance should have been top of the OPs list at the break. Totally inept and was probably his worst ever performance in a red shirt. Second should have been both Eliasson and COD. I am sure they were told to keep their width but in doing so became almost invisible. Third should have been Webster defaulting to hoooooofin it at every opportunity giving it straight back to the opposition. There has to be changes for Sunday - Pack needs a game or two warming the bench, but it wont happen.

Dead right, he’s our captain (though you certainly wouldn’t know it) can’t believe that he is devoid of criticism by so many on here