Dredd Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 So in what situation does this guy get a game? He’s apparently our creative midfielder but just doesn’t get a look in, even when we are chasing games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Over to you.... LJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 The kid must be getting pissed off , Jamie Johnson gets picked ahead of him and he’s done fuckall for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Thinking same myself. He need to be in the pitch. Thought he was outstanding against (admittedly lowered league) Plymouth. LJ must see him as a Pack alternative so if Pack is on the pitch, no Liam. With all the space out there today, thought it was made for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 He should be in league 1 this year learning how to play the game when it's tough sitting on the beach with do nothing for him just knock his confidence so he don't show what he can do when he gets a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I hear LJ's got a nickname for Liam Walsh - 'Anyonebut' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Yes but he did play for Everton!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 To be fair, Walsh doesnt seem to be up to Championship football when I have seen him, maybe one day he will along with the test of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 451 vs Brentford he could come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Has anyone checked that his name ball hasn’t been lost and is in the tombola ? After Engvall,Duric and many others. plenty of money spent but still.......not in the side still....ehhhhh Though @ForeverRes keeps claiming,all on the cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 When he has played he didn't look particularly good, however nobody else who played looked particularly good today. Walsh should be loaned out to a div 1 or 2 side. One for the future maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 It begs the question, if he’s not good enough to get onto the pitch today, or against Wigan and Rotherham, why did City pay £1m for him in the January transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I firmly believe he is good enough and honestly think he’d be better than Pack or at least consistently more solid. He is not a #10 though and would need to play the Pack role. He is an agressive player so I think he’d be fine. That said he should play against Brentford because we will get battered in our 442. I’d probably go Maenpaa(injured?) Hunt Webster Kelly DaSilva Pack Walsh Brownhill Weimann O’Dowda Taylor Thought about Wright at RB but not against Watkins. Baker I have had enough of. The midfield 3 has the ability to play around their midfield and stay with them defensively. Plenty of industry with Weimann and COD and Taylor hopefully at his best creating some chances for Weimann, COD and Brownhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCadam Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 It's getting boring how much protection captains get if they're off the boil, same situation with Bailey last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 What I fail to understand is why after playing well albeit against Plymouth and training well or so we are told, we’ve not seen him whilst others continue to get rewarded for poor performances. How the hell anyone can say he’s not championship ready is beyond me until we give him a chance. Now Korey got injured before transfer deadline day so if we didn’t bring another midfielder in (which I cannot believe we didn’t) then LJ has put His hope in Brownhill/Pack staying injury free and in form for 4 months as clearly not having Walsh Looks a shocking decision now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I think he’ll play vs brentford. Maybe in a 5 like we saw vs Rotherham at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Shtanley said: I think he’ll play vs brentford. Maybe in a 5 like we saw vs Rotherham at times. And that worked as we grinded out a crucial draw against Rotherham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sergio Georgini said: And that worked as we grinded out a crucial draw against Rotherham. Draw your away games win your... True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When the river runs Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I always think he looks a bit small, he was warming up in shorts at half time thought he was gonna be on 2nd half bannan was great for them today and he's similar size, thought he ran the show for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Draw your away games win your... True I'd very very happily take a 0-0 draw against Brentford mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red94 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Don’t think he’s to happy about not being picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 When I have seen him play he has always been the stand out midfielder but does that fit into a team ? What bothers me is that he is never used as a substitute when things are going wrong he is the one player who can change the game,not sure what will make Lee bring him on apart from an injury crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Unsure he could fit in a 2. Would quite like to see him in a central midfield 3 or maybe behind Weimann or Taylor in a similar type shape to our 4-4-1-1 which was so successful at times last season. He wouldn't bring as much pure 'number 10' qualities as Paterson did at that time, but on the other hand he could drop back when we're defending, push on in attack and support when it's in midfield phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 18 hours ago, pongo88 said: It begs the question, if he’s not good enough to get onto the pitch today, or against Wigan and Rotherham, why did City pay £1m for him in the January transfer window? Because rather than pay that amount to cover someone like Mitrovic’s wages for half a season and make a real promotion charge, we decided we’d be far better off buying a young player who we won’t play because he’s evidently not yet up to standard. That of course won’t have been a Johnson decision but would’ve came from further up the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 20 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: To be fair, Walsh doesnt seem to be up to Championship football when I have seen him, maybe one day he will along with the test of the team. When have you seen him? Not this season in the league, crazily not even for a sub appearance. He played against Plymouth and was our best player, tackled and passed the ball well, not his fault many of those around him that night could not be bothered to give 100%. Pack, who was doing very well up until the WBA game, has been really poor these last 5 winless games, give the kid a chance. People say he is not strong enough to play in a CM 2, so play a CM 3 moving Brownhill a bit right where he will have more freedom to break forward too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Because rather than pay that amount to cover someone like Mitrovic’s wages for half a season and make a real promotion charge, we decided we’d be far better off buying a young player who we won’t play because he’s evidently not yet up to standard. That of course won’t have been a Johnson decision but would’ve came from further up the chain. In hindsight however, would any of Mitrovic, Grabban or Afobe have joined us on loan in Jan? £600,000 loan fee for Mitrovic though, and wages- assume Fulham paid all of those? More than Walsh probably. Found an article on him which suggests that Anderlecht, Bordeaux and Middlesborough in for him in addition to Fulham. Cobbled together a bit, but £30,000 per week at Fulham plus a £600,000 loan fee. @old_eastender Agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Ben Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 19 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: I firmly believe he is good enough and honestly think he’d be better than Pack or at least consistently more solid. Genuine question as an expat, who's not got to see a lot of the games, what's behind this belief? Is it just that Pack's not been very good recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: When have you seen him? Not this season in the league, crazily not even for a sub appearance. He played against Plymouth and was our best player, tackled and passed the ball well, not his fault many of those around him that night could not be bothered to give 100%. Pack, who was doing very well up until the WBA game, has been really poor these last 5 winless games, give the kid a chance. People say he is not strong enough to play in a CM 2, so play a CM 3 moving Brownhill a bit right where he will have more freedom to break forward too. Yeah, that seems to make some sense and would maybe give him the opportunity to establish himself. LJ can always change it after 60 minutes if he needs something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: In hindsight however, would any of Mitrovic, Grabban or Afobe have joined us on loan in Jan? £600,000 loan fee for Mitrovic though, and wages- assume Fulham paid all of those? More than Walsh probably. Found an article on him which suggests that Anderlecht, Bordeaux and Middlesborough in for him in addition to Fulham. Cobbled together a bit, but £30,000 per week at Fulham plus a £600,000 loan fee. @old_eastender Agree with that. Seeing as we were ahead of Villa and Fulham in the table, yes they would have as long as we stumped up the cost. Lets break it down: If you say Mitrovic was on £30k a week and we paid the lot for 5 months that totals £600k. Loan fee of £600k and you’ve got a total outlay of £1.2m for a top striker and some much needed quality up top. We spent 1m on Walsh on the fee alone. I know where my money would have gone. Even then it’s not restricted to the players you listed, there would have been others out there of similar quality willing to join a promotion push and we weren’t even interested in looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Seeing as we were ahead of Villa and Fulham in the table, yes they would have as long as we stumped up the cost. Lets break it down: If you say Mitrovic was on £30k a week and we paid the lot for 5 months that totals £600k. Loan fee of £600k and you’ve got a total outlay of £1.2m for a top striker and some much needed quality up top. We spent 1m on Walsh on the fee alone. I know where my money would have gone. Even then it’s not restricted to the players you listed, there would have been others out there of similar quality willing to join a promotion push and we weren’t even interested in looking. Walsh 900k-1000000 fee. 2 and a half year deal- amortization 360k per year or 400k per year depending on the fee. That'd be in accounting terms anyway- waged I'm going to guess between 10-15k per week. Mitrovic 600k loan fee. 30k per week- when you seem to have lost 18m in a season, unsure you can afford these. Fair point on Grabban position wise, just unsure Mitrovic would have been affordable. From memory too, Mitrovic went to Fulham end of Jan- were we 3 points above them at most? Or 1? Believe me, I was all for one of Mitrovic, Grabban or Adobe in Jan- had a proper belief in the playoffs and maybe more, but definitely the playoffs but @Davefevs has covered it well before- he thinks we lost 18m last season and over 3 years I think we were up against our limit. Mitrovic for Diony and Walsh combined now that might have been a different scenario and kept us in FFP limits- might being an operative word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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