Admin phantom Posted October 15, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Saw this interesting interview with the ladies Manager on the BBC Sport site. . . https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45816958 Much is made of the psychology of football management - getting the best out of your players, knowing which buttons to press and understanding how to deal with difficult characters. But how many bosses are actually qualified to cope with all of the above? That's where Bristol City Women manager Tanya Oxtoby is different to most. The 36-year-old used to work as a full-time psychologist, having graduated from the University of Western Australia - and now she's bringing those skills to the Women's Super League. "It's something that makes you very conscious of how you communicate," said Oxtoby, who last week went down in history as the WSL's first manager of the month following an unbeaten start to the season. "I studied psychology, [originally] as a three-year degree, although it took me five years because of the travelling for football and things like that, but it was definitely all worth it. "It was difficult, but I'm really glad someone pushed me to do it. It helps me in my football now. "It's about watching body language, all of that kind of thing. It's a massive part of the game now at any level, and having a background in that area really helps, especially in pressure situations. "It gives you a skill-set to fall back on." Just like Oxtoby's path into football management, Bristol City's start to the season has been somewhat unexpected. As they lined up for their first home league game of the season against defending champions Chelsea and fielded a matchday squad with an average age of 21, including eight teenagers, few neutrals could imagine City battling to a draw. Nor did many onlookers predict they would play out an entertaining 2-2 draw at another Women's Super League title contender, Manchester City, four days later. But those performances, plus a 1-0 win at newly-promoted Brighton, were rewarded with a brace of September awards for a club that has entered a new era this season. Having left her role as assistant coach at Birmingham City to take charge of the Vixens this July, Oxtoby is very much enjoying her start to life as a number one in the WSL, in her first managerial role. "It's downhill from here!" Oxtoby joked to BBC Sport. "When the month ended and we had time to catch breath, I thought 'wow'. It's a massive achievement." The new monthly award for women's managers from the League Managers Association (LMA) comes in a year when multiple well-established honours - historically only dished out to male players and coaches - have introduced a women's equivalent for the first time. Earlier in 2018, Fran Kirby was named as the first Football Writers' Association's women's player of the year, while the Chelsea striker and her England team-mate Lucy Bronze were among those to be shortlisted this month for the inaugural women's Ballon d'Or. "It has been a long time coming but I think the investment that now goes into women's football is matched by these awards and the recognition that the game is getting," said Oxtoby, who became the first indigenous Australian player to captain a W-League side back in 2008. "It is really important that we've all gone professional in the WSL and the result is this recognition. You can't have one without the other, it goes both ways. "It's really pleasing for women's sport that we're in a position now where we can talk about these awards. It's a great reward for the players, coaches and clubs' investment." Of her own honour, Oxtoby added: "I'm really proud, but this [manager of the month] is the players' award. We can talk about as many things tactically as we want as coaches but they bring it to life on a Sunday. "They've made my job nice and easy for the first month, but now is not a time to rest." That's because the tough opponents keep coming for the West Country outfit, with high-flying Birmingham visiting the Stoke Gifford Stadium on Sunday, 14 October (15:00 BST). Blues, led by Oxtoby's former boss Marc Skinner, are second in the table after three wins from four, and the newest boss in the WSL knows her new side will have to "be at their best" to cause her former club problems. And she won't be the only familiar face for the visitors, as Bristol City's other September award winner - WSL player of the month, goalkeeper Sophie Baggaley - is also formerly of the Blues. "She's been magnificent," ex-Doncaster Rovers Belles player Oxtoby said of Baggaley. "She has really excelled so far and she will go on to be as good as she wants to be. "But it is her leadership off the ball that has been really impressive for me. She lays the foundations in terms of the organisation of the outfield players and her kicking is exceptional." Baggaley, a 21-year-old England youth international, appears to be thriving under Oxtoby - as does Scotland international midfielder Lucy Graham, who signed from Hibernian in the summer. Speaking about Oxtoby to BBC Radio Bristol, Graham said: "She is really driven and she knows what she wants. She gets it out of the players. "Everybody has jumped straight on board with her whole philosophy and that's got the dressing room going. It is a happy camp." A win over Birmingham on Sunday could propel Oxtoby's side into the top four, which would be a strong statement from a club that finished eighth in last season's 10-team league - but she believes they still have lots more to work on. "We have to get better with the ball," she continued, adding to Radio Bristol: "We are probably still around 40% of where we would expect the group to be. "In possession we have got a lot of work to do. There's a lot to come from this group. They'll continue to grow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 So Bristol Sport also employ a qualified psychologist. 2 roles for the price of one - could be handy at a later date! Also may be worth adding who she is to the topic title, as to be honest I didn't have a clue who she was. Good post, interesting read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Could she manage the blokes’ team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 15, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Taz said: Also may be worth adding who she is to the topic title, as to be honest I didn't have a clue who she was. Good Point @Taz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Might this be an aspect where the women's game might be a bit ahead of the men's? I know there are analysts in both who try to mould the mind into a more effective shape but it's intriguing to see if there's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Very interesting. But did anyone notice the stats from yesterday's match with Birmingham City? Nil attempts either off or on target in a 1-0 defeat. Overly defensive attitude from the coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Has to be said that the Vixens have lost a number of good forwards in recent seasons and the current squad is a particularly new and inexperienced one for the most part. Oxtoby has certainly cut the cloth accordingly and made being difficult to break down a priority. That said, the side does have enough talent to pick up wins. Next home match is against Arsenal - and the Gooners are incandescent this season (thumped Chelsea 5-0!). In between there is the matter of a trip to Yeovil (and the many ex-Vixens there). We'll know a lot more about the City Women after those two matches at either end of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, cidered abroad said: Very interesting. But did anyone notice the stats from yesterday's match with Birmingham City? Nil attempts either off or on target in a 1-0 defeat. Overly defensive attitude from the coach? Brum are v good defensively - won 4 out of 5 games 1-0 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Could she manage the blokes’ team? yes but not if they throw their toys out of the pram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 The M of the M curse strikes again. Out of interest why were Yeovil not relegated last season after finishing bottom? Interesting article; thanks for posting Phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 16, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, havanatopia said: The M of the M curse strikes again. Out of interest why were Yeovil not relegated last season after finishing bottom? Interesting article; thanks for posting Phantom. I'm guessing it was all to do with the restructuring of the top 2 divisions, in the top division all clubs now have to be full time, can only assume there was a team that didn't do this Also remember the Notts Country ladies side folding last season so maybe there was no relegation due to an odd number of sides in the league? EDIT: Just found this @havanatopia Following restructuring of the women's game in order to provide for a fully professional Women's Super League (WSL), membership of both the first and second tier is subject to a licence, based on a series of off-the-field criteria. Yeovil Town estimated the budget needed for a WSL season at about £350,000. Existing WSL teams were first offered the opportunity to bid for licences,with all applying FA WSL clubs retaining their place in the first tier, with Brighton & Hove Albion from the WSL2 also offered a place in the WSL. From the first tier, Sunderland were unsuccessful in their license application. This left up to two places in the WSL and up to five places in the Championship for applying clubs.Fifteen applications were received for both the top two tiers,and West Ham was given a licence in the second stage, so that the league is made up of 11 teams. Also this http://www.fawsl.com/news/confirmation_of_clubs_in_201819_fa_womens_super_league.html#AfZjdHLMbPvB3uQW.97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Thanks Phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I met a guy called Paddy Upton a few years ago. He's not a cricket coach and yet he's one of the most sought after coaches in the T20 circuit. Why? He creates teams who believe they can win. He's a psychologist. I rate 80% of onfield performance is due to belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Where do they coach the female City team? Failand? It would be nice to think Lee and Tanya would get together on occasion and talk about the respective roles, share ideas etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I believe the Vixens train at the SGS college campus for the main part. Perhaps there will be an opportunity in the future to combine the sides (similar to Man City), or maybe Mr Lansdown has plans for a greater whole that will bring a completely new facility together for all Bristol Sport teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 15/10/2018 at 12:34, exAtyeoMax said: Could she manage the blokes’ team? Perhaps the bigger question is could she (or any other woman) manage A mans team? Is it a matter of time before a progressive club, perhaps at the lower leagues takes the step of picking the best person for the job. Men coach and manage in the womens game, so could this be reversed in future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Perhaps the bigger question is could she (or any other woman) manage A mans team? Is it a matter of time before a progressive club, perhaps at the lower leagues takes the step of picking the best person for the job. Men coach and manage in the womens game, so could this be reversed in future? That was my question really. Would SL consider it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Perhaps the bigger question is could she (or any other woman) manage A mans team? Is it a matter of time before a progressive club, perhaps at the lower leagues takes the step of picking the best person for the job. Men coach and manage in the womens game, so could this be reversed in future? Got anyone in mind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 16/10/2018 at 14:21, Erithacus said: I believe the Vixens train at the SGS college campus for the main part. Perhaps there will be an opportunity in the future to combine the sides (similar to Man City), or maybe Mr Lansdown has plans for a greater whole that will bring a completely new facility together for all Bristol Sport teams? The training plans in Failand have plans for a 500 seater stadium for the Women's team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 16/10/2018 at 13:42, DaveInSA said: I met a guy called Paddy Upton a few years ago. He's not a cricket coach and yet he's one of the most sought after coaches in the T20 circuit. Why? He creates teams who believe they can win. He's a psychologist. I rate 80% of onfield performance is due to belief. There's a reason people like Steve Peters are so highly rated in professional/elite sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 22 hours ago, Loon plage said: Got anyone in mind ? Actually, somewhere like Forest Green with their current Chairman, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he took a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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