slartibartfast Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Brentford new manager on the "game " today......... "The red card was harsh, both yellows were borderline. With the second one, because he's running in front of Chris Mepham and you just need a small contact to go down, I've seen those given. "The first yellow is the big mistake, Chris Mepham ran in to protect our player who was being kicked on the floor, the referee should have handled that better. "That [red card] changed the momentum of the game. If we'd continued 11 v 11 we would have won in the end." Very good Frank ,but what about the match in general (apart from the bit where you thought you would have won.......if you hadn't lost ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 They played with 11 men for almost an hour and didn’t score, so to say they “would have won with 11” is unsubstantiated and arrogant. If they had let a lead slip after the sending off, then who knows, but what he’s said is utter bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 The red card didn't change anything...it was the Baker injury that changed the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Brentford new manager on the "game " today......... "The red card was harsh, both yellows were borderline. With the second one, because he's running in front of Chris Mepham and you just need a small contact to go down, I've seen those given. "The first yellow is the big mistake, Chris Mepham ran in to protect our player who was being kicked on the floor, the referee should have handled that better. "That [red card] changed the momentum of the game. If we'd continued 11 v 11 we would have won in the end." Very good Frank ,but what about the match in general (apart from the bit where you thought you would have won.......if you hadn't lost ? Pack was hardly “booting him’ was he? Some gentle taps....so much so, that the ref gave us the free-kick. Fathom that out Thomas Frank. Mepham had no need to run over and push Pack in the chest. Once he decided on a yellow for Pack, then Mepham had to get one too. I think the second yellow, although only a clip, was leaving Eliasson (?) clean through. I was surprised that he did get a (second) yellow, most refs would’ve bottled it, especially for the home side. Perhaps he was fed up with their moaning. Sawyers might’ve got a red too. He knew he was gonna catch Pack, and although it was harsh, had Pack rolled around, rather than lay prone, that might’ve influenced it by making it look much worse. And I think Hunt was really winding up Maupay at the end, thought he was gonna get butted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 In fairness most think we dont win that game 11 v 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 And Lee J's tactical know how. Was worried about Bees being top 6 a month ago but with this managers one sided view and their non existent discipline I would be confident we can count them one of many below us come May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Brentford new manager on the "game " today......... "The red card was harsh, both yellows were borderline. With the second one, because he's running in front of Chris Mepham and you just need a small contact to go down, I've seen those given. "The first yellow is the big mistake, Chris Mepham ran in to protect our player who was being kicked on the floor, the referee should have handled that better. "That [red card] changed the momentum of the game. If we'd continued 11 v 11 we would have won in the end." Very good Frank ,but what about the match in general (apart from the bit where you thought you would have won.......if you hadn't lost ? Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Tough teats Frankie boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 I think it could have gone either way with 11vs11. Lets be honest though, the second yellow was harsh, especially for it to result in a red. Terrible ref as usual but it seemed to go against the opposition most of the time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 And the record book will show.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 It's taken a while but what goes around.... Luke Freeman was dismissed for a high - but not reckless - foot in a game that was even steven but we went on to lose. That decision was harsh, perhaps todays was too but basically f u ck em (my default position vis-a-vis brentford) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: Brentford new manager on the "game " today......... "The red card was harsh, both yellows were borderline. With the second one, because he's running in front of Chris Mepham and you just need a small contact to go down, I've seen those given. "The first yellow is the big mistake, Chris Mepham ran in to protect our player who was being kicked on the floor, the referee should have handled that better. "That [red card] changed the momentum of the game. If we'd continued 11 v 11 we would have won in the end." Very good Frank ,but what about the match in general (apart from the bit where you thought you would have won.......if you hadn't lost ? Sacked in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hampshire Red said: And Lee J's tactical know how. Was worried about Bees being top 6 a month ago but with this managers one sided view and their non existent discipline I would be confident we can count them one of many below us come May So if league position is based on away fans rating managers and players of other teams in the cock bracket I reckon all teams will finish on the same points with the same goals scored for and against. Then we will have the LJ in crowd saying we finished joint first and the LJ out crowd saying we were joint last. Some will say we finished mid-table as they predicted all along based on our budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BTRFTG said: And the record book will show.....? Absolutely. About time we had some luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 It’s by no means certain that a team reduced to 10 men will go on to lose - how often have we seen 10 men rally and win? It’s not unheard of, or even that unusual. The 1985 FA Cup final is one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: It's taken a while but what goes around.... Luke Freeman was dismissed for a high - but not reckless - foot in a game that was even steven but we went on to lose. That decision was harsh, perhaps todays was too but basically f u ck em (my default position vis-a-vis brentford) Not quite the same....this is surely a bit worse than the one today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 A new Manager losing his first game? Bill Shankley's first game as Manager of Liverpool was a 4-0 home defeat. Bill did not complain about the Ref, the pitch or the opposition, instead he assured fans that "after this things will get better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 In fairness, heard a brief bit on Sky and he only talked about the one hitting the post (good save, Max btw) and it being about small margins. Which is football all over. I think he's only standing his own team's ground, and that is fair But don't get me on Maupay. Big girl's blouse that can't take it. The Jack Hunt chat bit near the end was brilliant, good on you Jack Also, Matty was ONside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, 22A said: A new Manager losing his first game? Bill Shankley's first game as Manager of Liverpool was a 4-0 home defeat. Bill did not complain about the Ref, the pitch or the opposition, instead he assured fans that "after this things will get better". *Shankly - apologies but a footballing legend deserves to have his name spelled correctly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Majority of their forum reckons MoM was the ref. Tbf he done a complete 180 at HT and gave us all the little cheap calls and gave us the benefit of the doubt after a Brentford sided 1st but not sure you can complain about the sending off. He and Pack both booked for the little get together then he clips(smart by NE and naive of Mepham part imo) NE gently but enough to make the ref have a decision to make. Had Maupay not miskicked that chance early I reckon Brentford eases by us. He didn’t and they imploded mentally a bit more every minute that passed. A draw would have been fair. 11v11 Brentford may have edged it but 30 minutes of a man advantage and we won. Brentford only have themselves to blame for their sending off and honestly were lucky to finish with 10 and Maupay. They should thank the ref for avoiding sending him off and being suspended later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 9 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: He and Pack both booked for the little get together The Ref could have just told them off, but decided to book them. What the lad does after, knowing he's on a booking is all down to him. Shouldn't give the ref a decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 12 hours ago, 22A said: A new Manager losing his first game? Bill Shankley's first game as Manager of Liverpool was a 4-0 home defeat. Bill did not complain about the Ref, the pitch or the opposition, instead he assured fans that "after this things will get better". Heard an interesting stat on the tv yesterday. Apparently before Dean Smith, no Villa Manager had won on their debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: The Ref could have just told them off, but decided to book them. What the lad does after, knowing he's on a booking is all down to him. Shouldn't give the ref a decision to make. COuld have for sure not booked them but at same time you can’t have complaints. Got to be smart on a booking and he wasn’t. Fair play to Eliasson though it was very saavy to go across him like that. On another day he stays on the pitch but it wasn’t an offensively bad sending off is my main point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: COuld have for sure not booked them but at same time you can’t have complaints. Got to be smart on a booking and he wasn’t. Fair play to Eliasson though it was very saavy to go across him like that. On another day he stays on the pitch but it wasn’t an offensively bad sending off is my main point Only saw it this morning as I was refreshing the stream when it happened. It's the normal thing to run across a defender in that situation, if the defender stops or trys to get out of the way he may get away with a free kick. If he carries on as he did it gives the Ref a decision to make. Good play from NE and naive from the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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