Red Army 75 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 LJs substitutions tonight just didn’t make sense to me . The game was crying out for Matty Taylor. To keep Paterson on that long was really strange. He’s been piss poor. 10 minutes for Taylor. Pathetic should be starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ReggyRed said: Didn’t we win? Pasting what I wrote on another thread. All joking apart, I’d rather be critical of a sloppy 1-0 win over Hull and demand improvement, rather than just criticise when have the same performance and get whacked 3-0. It’s called being fair, I also praised the team after West Brom because it was a good performance. Balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Tonight We didn't play anywhere as badly as I have heard people say. However, if we are looking for concerns...We are too intricate at times. Yes teams like to play that way at the moment but as Colin said all the young guys want to play pita pata football. The ball gets constantly turned over by both teams at this level and that can get frustrating. We don't really look like scoring...We are lacking a threat in front of goal, however LJ himself said the forwards have yet to fire...and we are up there despite that. Weimann needs one and Taylor deserves ten. LJ has taken six points from two games in four days, so has earned the right to rotate a bit and give Kelly a much needed rest. Roll on Saturday, there will be changes, but I wouldn't fancy playing us right now as we appear to have had a little change in luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Why the constant moaning. We didn't play well but won. Roll on Saturday and if it's another poor game finishing 1-0 to us I'll not be moaning. We've had plenty of times when we've looked good and lost. I prefer it this way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 I would describe us as industrial in midfield without flair. Pack and Brownhill so similar. Been said many times before we are desperate for that ‘Hartley’ from yesterday type player, but I guess every team in the land would want one. Seem to lack that cutting edge and feeding our forwards. We huffed and puffed and perhaps just about deserved it. If I was. Hull fan would be a tad miffed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 352. Max hunt kalas webster kelly dasilva brownhill pack walsh/pato diedhiou taylor width, solid back 3, 3 cm’s giving us more control on midfield. That would suit me fine. However, sh1te 1 nil’s suit me fine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Why the constant moaning. We didn't play well but won. Roll on Saturday and if it's another poor game finishing 1-0 to us I'll not be moaning. We've had plenty of times when we've looked good and lost. I prefer it this way round. Of course we won . Brilliant every day of the week. Just my opinion. Paterson has been very poor in his last few games, Shouldn’t be in the side . MT IMO has been our most affective attacking player. It’s not a moan just a. Observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Tonight We didn't play anywhere as badly as I have heard people say. However, if we are looking for concerns...We are too intricate at times. Yes teams like to play that way at the moment but as Colin said all the young guys want to play pita pata football. The ball gets constantly turned over by both teams at this level and that can get frustrating. We don't really look like scoring...We are lacking a threat in front of goal, however LJ himself said the forwards have yet to fire...and we are up there despite that. Weimann needs one and Taylor deserves ten. LJ has taken six points from two games in four days, so has earned the right to rotate a bit and give Kelly a much needed rest. Roll on Saturday, there will be changes, but I wouldn't fancy playing us right now as we appear to have had a little change in luck! First half we were ok and moved the ball well and to be fair Hull gave it a go and should have scored a couple but for Max and some last ditch tackles and poor finishing. Could have been 3-3 at HT Second half Hull tried to kill the game and slow it right down to stop any momentum which they did for 30 min but we kept going and the introduction of the subs and in particular MT created the opportunity for the winner would take an average performance and 3 points every time and yes, Lady Luck is looking down on us at the moment Kelly will be at LB on Saturday and reckon Watkins May start as likely it will be a physical game versus Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 I know Paterson is this season's whipping boy but tonight I thought he look like he could be coming back into form and had some nice touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Big C said: I know Paterson is this season's whipping boy but tonight I thought he look like he could be coming back into form and had some nice touches. He did. A little confidence builder. Clearly LJ likes him, hopefully that will pay some dividends as the season really gets going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Big C said: I know Paterson is this season's whipping boy but tonight I thought he look like he could be coming back into form and had some nice touches. Yes. Plus a midfielder that actually gets into space and travels forward with the ball! better than our two ‘Joe Burnell’s’ ( Brownhill/pack) who are only capable of LJ-style sideways/backwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: Been said many times before we are desperate for that ‘Hartley’ from yesterday type player, We won F'all with Hartley. The passing today in the first half at times was fast and incisive with just a few mis controls spoiling what would have been worthy "Arsenal type" goals. I can't believe people are moaning - we beat a well organised team, yes we were a bit open but we are at least creating chances and hoofing it less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, INCRED said: First half we were ok and moved the ball well and to be fair Hull gave it a go and should have scored a couple but for Max and some last ditch tackles and poor finishing. Could have been 3-3 at HT Second half Hull tried to kill the game and slow it right down to stop any momentum which they did for 30 min but we kept going and the introduction of the subs and in particular MT created the opportunity for the winner would take an average performance and 3 points every time and yes, Lady Luck is looking down on us at the moment Kelly will be at LB on Saturday and reckon Watkins May start as likely it will be a physical game versus Stoke I don't see that back four changing for Saturday and i don't think it should. Jay Dasilva shouldn't be too tired to go again, and giving Kelly a break isn't a bad idea either. I've moaned about the bad spell (Wigan, Rotherham games etc) but things do look like they are going in the right direction again. Not perfect, but Well done, Boys. Well done LJ tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nickolas backward, sideways?? Wake up mate go to games and see the forelward runs if Eliasson, Patterson, CoD, Weimann, Diedhou. These also play for our fantastic manager too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Reality is, LJ appears to have learnt from the endless weeks of defeat and now has a less entertaining option up his sleeve that makes us more difficult to beat. I'm sure as confidence grows and we aren't 2 or 3 defeats away from being in the danger zone, our play will be more expansive and engaging to watch. As a spectacle this evening, it was dogs eggs. Wouldn't swap it for a rip roarer of a game that saw us leave with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Big C said: I know Paterson is this season's whipping boy but tonight I thought he look like he could be coming back into form and had some nice touches. He got better as it went on. Wasn't good at all in the first half but started to influence the game in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Thought Andi Weimann looked a bit out of sorts tonight and Diedhiou didn't really look interested until he had scored. Both of our fullbacks were skinned more than once. The 2 central defenders looked pretty solid and covered each other well. Middield didn't seem to have many ideas going forward, though the introduction of O'Dowda helped. Felt really sorry for Eliason, he made lots of runs, lost his marker and was in great positions a dozen times, yet nobody wanted to pass the ball to him. Max O'Leary had another decent game save for one error, which he got away with and made one particularly good save early on. He has done enough to keep his place I feel. We need someone alongside Pack covering Smith's role, but Brownhill does't suit that role - Walsh might be a bettwr fit? Happy with 3 points, but not a convincing performance against a poor Hull side. I think Stoke might provide sterner opposition on Saturday particularly physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, nickolas said: Yes. Plus a midfielder that actually gets into space and travels forward with the ball! better than our two ‘Joe Burnell’s’ ( Brownhill/pack) who are only capable of LJ-style sideways/backwards! Utter drivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said: Nickolas backward, sideways?? Wake up mate go to games and see the forelward runs if Eliasson, Patterson, CoD, Weimann, Diedhou. These also play for our fantastic manager too. Didnt mention them!! Pack and Brownhill are backwards/sideways!! 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: Utter drivel Sorry, Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Thought Andi Weimann looked a bit out of sorts tonight and Diedhiou didn't really look interested until he had scored. Both of our fullbacks were skinned more than once. The 2 central defenders looked pretty solid and covered each other well. Middield didn't seem to have many ideas going forward, though the introduction of O'Dowda helped. Felt really sorry for Eliason, he made lots of runs, lost his marker and was in great positions a dozen times, yet nobody wanted to pass the ball to him. Max O'Leary had another decent game save for one error, which he got away with and made one particularly good save early on. He has done enough to keep his place I feel. We need someone alongside Pack covering Smith's role, but Brownhill does't suit that role - Walsh might be a bettwr fit? Happy with 3 points, but not a convincing performance against a poor Hull side. I think Stoke might provide sterner opposition on Saturday particularly physically. If anyone of Pack or Brownhill should be dropped it is Pack. Brownhill covers so much ground it is like having an extra man. He makes the 2 work. The man will sprint 40 yards to track a late run from a winger or forward then win the ball back, pass it to a mate, sprint into space to receive ball again and get us up the pitch. Brownhill is class and is only 22. No, we drop Brownhill and I reckon our performances get worse. We don’t have loads of premier league quality or potential but Brownhill is one of the few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said: If anyone of Pack or Brownhill should be dropped it is Pack. Brownhill covers so much ground it is like having an extra man. He makes the 2 work. The man will sprint 40 yards to track a late run from a winger or forward then win the ball back, pass it to a mate, sprint into space to receive ball again and get us up the pitch. Brownhill is class and is only 22. No, we drop Brownhill and I reckon our performances get worse. We don’t have loads of premier league quality or potential but Brownhill is one of the few And there’s me thinking Brownhill has a poor touch, lacks intelligence, makes poor decisions and loses possession incredibly easily. But he does run around a lot, I’ll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: I don't see that back four changing for Saturday and i don't think it should. Jay Dasilva shouldn't be too tired to go again, and giving Kelly a break isn't a bad idea either. I've moaned about the bad spell (Wigan, Rotherham games etc) but things do look like they are going in the right direction again. Not perfect, but Well done, Boys. Well done LJ tonight Would be suicidal not playing LK given the forward talent Stoke have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: If anyone of Pack or Brownhill should be dropped it is Pack. Brownhill covers so much ground it is like having an extra man. He makes the 2 work. The man will sprint 40 yards to track a late run from a winger or forward then win the ball back, pass it to a mate, sprint into space to receive ball again and get us up the pitch. Brownhill is class and is only 22. No, we drop Brownhill and I reckon our performances get worse. We don’t have loads of premier league quality or potential but Brownhill is one of the few Not saying we should drop Josh, just that I prefer him playing on the right. Pack has not been his best, but I think his performances are affected by Korey being missing and wonder if Walshy might be a better replacement than Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry said: And there’s me thinking Brownhill has a poor touch, lacks intelligence, makes poor decisions and loses possession incredibly easily. But he does run around a lot, I’ll give you that. You are on one tonight mate huh? Part of the Pack fan club? Brownhill was near enough man of the match if Webster hadn’t been playing. If you think that I question what you watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 As for Paterson. I’ve watched him very closely the last few games and I think he’s regaining confidence. He’s actually a more intelligent player than most of ours, and he’s often trying something bright but alas it’s not quite coming off. I can see why people are frustrated by him, but I’ve given it a very close eye and he’s very nearly pulling things off, but not quite. He’s far more comfortable behind the striker than he is out wide. And LJ switched him there after 29 minutes tonight and he started having an more significant role in the game. Hes certainly got more of a football brain than O’Dowda, Watkins, Brownhill, Famara, and I can see what he is trying to do, but it’s not quite working for him. He’s not a ‘runner’ though, so if his intelligence isn’t working then his lack of effort gets magnified - hence I can understand the flack he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: You are on one tonight mate huh? Part of the Pack fan club? Brownhill was near enough man of the match if Webster hadn’t been playing. If you think that I question what you watch Disagree on that mate. Best players on the pitch, in order were Webster, Eliasson, Taylor, Pack, Pato, O’Leary, JDS, Kalas, Hunt and then Brownhill. All waaaay ahead of Famara & Weimann. Bronwhill had a couple of decent moments, don’t get me wrong, but he was nowhere near MOM after Webster. As said, poor touch, lacks intelligence and makes poor decision and gives it away too easily too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Big C said: I know Paterson is this season's whipping boy but tonight I thought he look like he could be coming back into form and had some nice touches. 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: He did. A little confidence builder. Clearly LJ likes him, hopefully that will pay some dividends as the season really gets going Agree. Helped by moving into a more central role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 13 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: Utter drivel I agree with him, the centre of midfield is where all our problems are created, not good enough going forward and not good enough defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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