wendyredredrobin Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 If this is true, it is utter crap and makes a total mockery of the England football team. Rooney has connections and contacts at a (very) high level and this is the reason why it is happening. If Southgate has selected him, he should be sacked. If he has been pressured into selecting him then he probably ought to resign. This makes a total mockery of the value of an England cap and this particular game. Not that I have any problems with Rooney as an ex footballer. He was decent enough in his day, though his off the pitch activities were questionable (the published ones and those the general public may not be aware of). wasn't he also involved in one of those dubious tax avoidance scams? I always thought Soutgate was a decent bloke too, though his abilities as a football manager are questionable. A complete amd utter joke in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just honouring a player who is an England great. Netherlands gave Sneijder a send off. Australia gave Tim Cahill one Germany gave Podolski one. Granted they were still around the squad, but Rooney is playing well currently, and it’s a meaningless friendly. Like myself, I’m sure there are many fans who are too young to remember the 90’s properly, Rooney is the best player we’ve had in the period that I’ve watched. Neville has it spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: This makes a total mockery of the value of an England cap and this particular game. Friendlies did this a long time ago. Players get caps for barely playing nowadays (martin Kelly got his only england cap for 2 offical minutes against norway) so don't see how giving one more to one of our more decorated players is an issue. Gives people a chance to see one of England’s greats one last time and raises some money for charity. Don't see the problem really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneybcfc Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Arguably although i don't really agree with it is it any different to us giving Louis Carey enough game time to get the record? That season he wasn't really in contention to play outside of being a good influence at training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, cider-manc said: Friendlies did this a long time ago. Players get caps for barely playing nowadays (martin Kelly got his only england cap for 2 offical minutes against norway) so don't see how giving one more to one of our more decorated players is an issue. Gives people a chance to see one of England’s greats one last time and raises some money for charity. Don't see the problem really. I'm not really that bothered about seeing him one last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Only 15 mins isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm not that fussed but what next, Ed Sheeran paying £££££££s for an England cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCyder Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 If it was a competitive fixture, I'd understand. But at the end of the day, he's likely to be filling Danny Welbeck's place in the squad and who hasn't moaned about him being included in the past.. He's England's all time top goalscorer and it's going to raise a bit of money for charity. I wouldn't have gone out of my way to watch the friendly to start with but I probably will now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Also messed about with other women, but his wife took him back, got banned from driving for 2 years for being 3 times over the drink driving limit, but does his driving ban apply in the USA? Any fine would not even make the slightest dent in his wealth and does anyone know what his community servive involved. I can forgive him for tax avoidance, as I guess he was advised that the scheme was perfectly legal and I doubt that his financial knowledge is that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Absolute joke. One of England’s most overrated players. The only saving grace is that the money goes to charity. And no it’s not Help the Aged before you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: I'm not really that bothered about seeing him one last time. Me neither. But then i'm not that bothered by England Friendlies in general and i saw him at his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Absolute joke. One of England’s most overrated players..... ....yet he scored more goals for England and Man Utd than any other player, ever..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I'm not really that bothered about seeing him one last time. That's right; he certainly won't be any better looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 If they want to hold a testimonial form him then fair enough, but don't dress it up as part of an England fixture When I first heard about this I assumed we were playing in America hence him playing as he was currently out there Personally would prefer someone else getting game time that would actually benefit from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I've defended Rooney on here in the past as I think some of the criticisms levelled at him are unfair, but I have to say I think next week's call up is a step too far (although criticism should be aimed at whoever decided to call him up). I was in Gelsenkirchen when his loss of temper cost us so dearly in the quarter final against Portugal, in Zagreb when he flicked the V-sign at England fans (sadly not V for victory that night), in Cape Town when he criticised England fans who had travelled thousands of miles to support the team in 2010, and in Podgorica in 2011 when another loss of temper meant he was banned for the first two games of Euro 2012. Next week's call up just doesn't sit well with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, North London Red said: .....but I have to say I think next week's call up is a step too far (although criticism should be aimed at whoever decided to call him up). But he wouldn't be the first person to be called up to say "No thanks" I see his charity is benefiting from the evening too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alandicks Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 It's a shame that great players like Steve Perryman ,Tottenham , never got a cap but now they are giving them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Nothing at all wrong with honouring our record goalscorer. Wow I bet you all loved it when we done it for Carey! What's his off field actions got to do with it? Should we ban every player from playing if they've had an affair and their wife has taken them back? England's finest ever goalscorer. ROONEY, ROONEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, frenchred said: Nothing at all wrong with honouring our record goalscorer. Wow I bet you all loved it when we done it for Carey! What's his off field actions got to do with it? Should we ban every player from playing if they've had an affair and their wife has taken them back? England's finest ever goalscorer. ROONEY, ROONEY. How about the fact HE decided to retire from representing his country? If he wants a farewell match, give him a testimonial BTW Carey was still playing for us when he got the record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbafc Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, phantom said: How about the fact HE decided to retire from representing his country? If he wants a farewell match, give him a testimonial BTW Carey was still playing for us when he got the record Besides the wrongs and rights of it surely a proper testimonial/charity/all-stars game would benefit his charity more and and make it proper way to honour him? As I understand it his appearance time will be minimal and it smacks of an after thought, perhaps as ticket sales were rumoured to be low. By all means honour him, but why not do it properly? This half baked way seems to downgrade Rooney as well as the England set up. Think the FA need to make better decisions as a governing body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, phantom said: How about the fact HE decided to retire from representing his country? If he wants a farewell match, give him a testimonial BTW Carey was still playing for us when he got the record So what if he retired? Probably got fed up trying to carry a crap team. Yeah Carey was still attending Bcfc at the time, it was a few years earlier he went chasing the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, frenchred said: So what if he retired? Probably got fed up trying to carry a crap team. Yeah Carey was still attending Bcfc at the time, it was a few years earlier he went chasing the money. He made the decision he didn't want to represent his country again, but dangle the carrot of raising some money and putting him back in the shop window for a January loan move, he's suddenly interested in playing for us again As for Louis, that was called 'ambition' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm saving my money for an England appearance (cap), it's probably not that long until we can all bid for one on eBay. I don't begrudge Rooney his send off, I just worry about where this will all end. Another nail in the coffin of English football, well at least the football I grew up and fell in love with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Who cares?... He's more deserving of a single cap than Michael Ricketts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, phantom said: He made the decision he didn't want to represent his country again, but dangle the carrot of raising some money and putting him back in the shop window for a January loan move, he's suddenly interested in playing for us again As for Louis, that was called 'ambition' Ambition!! Do me a favour, he threw his toys out the pram when he didn't get paid what he wanted. Soon came back when he found he couldn't hack it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, frenchred said: Ambition!! Do me a favour, he threw his toys out the pram when he didn't get paid what he wanted. Soon came back when he found he couldn't hack it! Course it was ambition, a club in the league above just after we'd missed out in the play offs to Brighton. I've never understood a lot of the stick he's received for making that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, frenchred said: Ambition!! Do me a favour, he threw his toys out the pram when he didn't get paid what he wanted. Soon came back when he found he couldn't hack it! Give your head a wobble, you clearly have no idea what happened Sick of this Rooney love in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glarster Red Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Think it’s a great idea,People say he was overrated.. When he came on the scene he was quality as he didn’t give a shit what people thought he used to put his foot in and fight for everything , The problem was when the press and his managers started to get him to him he act to act like this or like that as he was a role model he lost that bite which was one of his qualities,This would only happen in England in other countries they would accept they had a special player and let him be faults and all, either way his name will still be talked about for the next 100 years weather the haters like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glarster Red Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, phantom said: He made the decision he didn't want to represent his country again, but dangle the carrot of raising some money and putting him back in the shop window for a January loan move, he's suddenly interested in playing for us again As for Louis, that was called 'ambition' He is raising money for charity in exchange for a cap look at the bigger picture, that would not be raised without the game being played. you really think he needs to be put in the shop window for a January loan move? He’s not a squad player at Aldershot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I think alot more people would be ok if he had organised a game himself for his charity, a World XI vs USA or something similar. The fact is, he retired from international football because he could see he wasn't being selected and outside of the UK, he isn't known or recognised. Hence his relative anonimity in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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