Pezo Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Along with everything else today did we manage to cock up our minutes silence/rememberance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Yep. Not sure why it happened. Once one group started clapping it very quickly become a clap instead of a silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Not that it matters a great deal as people were only trying to be respectful, but yes. "We'd like you all to observe a moment's silence on the referee's whistle" *ref blows whistle* *crowd starts clapping* Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 I think the referee got it wrong rather than anyone else...no shock their as he was shit all day. horn player did a few duff notes I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 It was embarrassing. Not dificult. Listen for a wistle. Quiet for a minute. As instructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 The referee and assistants looked shocked when everyone started clapping.......so did a few players for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Pezo said: Along with everything else today did we manage to cock up our minutes silence/rememberance? Summed the afternoon up didn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Summed the afternoon up didn't it. Unfortunately yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Doesn’t really matter whether it’s marked by a minutes silence, or a minutes applause. The important thing is that it’s respectfully acknowledged, which it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Doesn’t really matter whether it’s marked by a minutes silence, or a minutes applause. The important thing is that it’s respectfully acknowledged, which it was. I understand that but it is meant to be a minutes silence. i think Downsy (through no fault of his own) did mess up slightly, he should had said the passage would be read and then after that go “there will be a minute silence on the refs whistle”. it was a total cock up really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: Doesn’t really matter whether it’s marked by a minutes silence, or a minutes applause. The important thing is that it’s respectfully acknowledged, which it was. I agree but a minutes clapping is a relatively new thing and is usually reserved to remembering the football community, armistice day is remembered by a minutes silence. I'm not saying it does but the question has to be asked does it lack respect to not understand the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Let’s be honest, how many other games today had a minutes applause and not a minute silence. 0 I imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: The referee and assistants looked shocked when everyone started clapping.......so did a few players for a while. .........and then they joined in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: .........and then they joined in ! I don't suppose they had much choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Roe said: Not that it matters a great deal as people were only trying to be respectful, but yes. "We'd like you all to observe a moment's silence on the referee's whistle" *ref blows whistle* *crowd starts clapping* Brilliant. He also said something about "reflection", not something clapping usually encourages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 53 minutes ago, Pezo said: Along with everything else today did we manage to cock up our minutes silence/rememberance? Sadly yes. I would be amazed if any other football crowds applauded today as many of our supporters did. As an act of remembrance and reflection a period of silence has been observed for as long as I can remember, but not today. The ignorance of those who began to applaud, and those who joined in, beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: I don't suppose they had much choice They certainly did have a choice, but chose to follow like sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 This was indeed a shambles. The PA quite clearly said “after the Last Post, please observe a moments silence upon the refs whistle”. The fact people couldn’t understand that simple instruction says a lot about the intelligence of some of our fans!! Can only assume they thought the refs whistle signalled the end of the “moment of reflection”. But my word, what a bloody shambles. Still, long and short of it is, everyone did what they thought was right so respect was shown in a way, but I just could not believe what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Countryfile said: Sadly yes. I would be amazed if any other football crowds applauded today as many of our supporters did. As an act of remembrance and reflection a period of silence has been observed for as long as I can remember, but not today. The ignorance of those who began to applaud, and those who joined in, beggars belief. Relax. As a stadium we respectfully honoured those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you feel so strongly about this, you shouldn’t really need a mass organised period to reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 It kinda summed the whole thing up, the recital in the most West Country I have heard in a while, the last stand where the bugler struggled repeatedly to hit certain notes, and the the minutes silence which I think maybe just down to the clapping to remember fans as a lot of younger people tend to not come across a minutes silence often, and once some started clapping you either all go for it or your left with an even more embarrassing mess. gonna pop over to the PNE and see how shocked they were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 It's just that this happens every year..same time every year. Turn up, last post, stand silently for a minute and think how lucky you are to not be running at machine guns in some godforsaken Belgian field and how thankful you are that your grandad and his mates did do that, then watch the football. It's not a surprise. You shouldn't even need 'Downsy' to tell you how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Countryfile said: Sadly yes. I would be amazed if any other football crowds applauded today as many of our supporters did. As an act of remembrance and reflection a period of silence has been observed for as long as I can remember, but not today. The ignorance of those who began to applaud, and those who joined in, beggars belief. It wasn’t ignorance, it was an unfortunate misunderstanding. There is a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Relax. As a stadium we respectfully honoured those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you feel so strongly about this, you shouldn’t really need a mass organised period to reflect. What is feeling strongly that a period of silence should have been observed as it always has been got to do with the shambles that took place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: It's just that this happens every year..same time every year. Turn up, last post, stand silently for a minute and think how lucky you are to not be running at machine guns in some godforsaken Belgian field and how thankful you are that your grandad and his mates did do that, then watch the football. It's not a surprise. You shouldn't even need 'Downsy' to tell you how to do it. Which is sad, is it not? Rememberance has become somewhat of a ‘token gesture’. It shouldn’t have to be done in any particular way, at an exact time. It should actually mean something to anyone that’s taking part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Let’s not forget the minute applause really first started because ***** couldn’t be expected to observe a minute of silence without shouting out stuff,to do it today remembering our fallen today was idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fiale said: It kinda summed the whole thing up, the recital in the most West Country I have heard in a while, the last stand where the bugler struggled repeatedly to hit certain notes, and the the minutes silence which I think maybe just down to the clapping to remember fans as a lot of younger people tend to not come across a minutes silence often, and once some started clapping you either all go for it or your left with an even more embarrassing mess. gonna pop over to the PNE and see how shocked they were Yeah, could we really not have got an orator with slight lest grizzled west country tones? And yeah the bugle wasn't great either. Shame really! But hope that the moments of silence that were had were seen as a respectable rememberance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 As an ex serviceman who also was taught to listen to instructions., I was gobsmacked when the clapping started after crystal clear instructions were given to one and all. Thankfully , the dead would laugh about it and say they havent learned anything since 1909 ! I believe not one person at AG had any disrespect for our fallen but if we have another world war and The Ashton Battalion is involved I think I will respectfully stay at the back !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Darkwood Red Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Complete balls up because people can't listen to simple instructions. Bloody embarrassing. This was a result of the people at the top not trusting fans to behave in a civil manner so they have a minutes applause when we should have had silences in the past. Today's total cock up was a direct result of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 I must admit I prefer a minutes silence under all circumstances over the minutes applause, if people shout out it gives everyone a chance to spot the pricks and weed them out socially distancing them from decent people it also gives a fair understanding of the level of respect widely felt - this "cure" of clapping allows disrespectful people a free pass and is maybe socially worse than the original problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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