Super Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 What on earth has happened to him and why was Walsh taken off instead of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Pack is bang out of form how he stayed on ahead of Walsh is down to Johnson too much loyalty to some players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said: Pack is bang out of form how he stayed on ahead of Walsh is down to Johnson too much loyalty to some players Spot on , seems he’s scared to upset certain players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 I thought Pack and Brownhill really let the rest of the team down today. Probably shattered tbf to them but LJ won’t rest either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 I just wish he would take more responsibility to create an assist and play short (and forward) to feet, rather than see his primary role to feed it to the wings for someone to cross to no-one in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, glen humphries said: Spot on , seems he’s scared to upset certain players And yet he drops Kelly. Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Pack’s ego has finally overtaken his abilty, constantly arguing with the referee, very quick to have a right go at his own players when they make mistakes and just carries on making plenty of his own. He is slow and utterly predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: And yet he drops Kelly. Clueless. Kelly is a kid , easy option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 I cannot believe a player can be so ineffective week after week after week yet his place in the starting line up is guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Over time. Pack has impressed , however in a poor run of form , Walsh could take over from him. Why not rest / rotate, pick on form ? He does with strikers and midfielders. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Pack’s ego has finally overtaken his abilty, constantly arguing with the referee, very quick to have a right go at his own players when they make mistakes and just carries on making plenty of his own. He is slow and utterly predictable. He resembled Neil Kilkenny today in those respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Very poor for a long time and seemingly undroppable. Why we didnt get a CM on loan when Smith was injured is a total mystery. Doubt Hegalar would be worse in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, harrys said: I cannot believe a player can be so ineffective week after week after week yet his place in the starting line up is guaranteed I can. Pato always seems to get a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, kivsy said: Over time. Pack has impressed , however in a poor run of form , Walsh could take over from him. Why not rest / rotate, pick on form ? He does with strikers and midfielders. ! Quite right, start of this season Pack was playing well, but for the last 7 or 8 games he has been really poor. Today it was Pack who lost the ball on the halfway-line, then allowed the Preston player to turn through 360 and stride away from him which started the break from which they scored. His long range passing has always been hit and miss, but in this recent run even short range passes are going astray. Add to this arguing pointlessly with refs, whilst the opposition take the FK and get on with play, and even in the last minute stretching for a header and takng the ball away when Maenpaa looked odds on to have a clear header on goal from our corner. Pack needs to be dropped but won't be by LJ, in the same way as LJ always gives Pato game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhurst Red Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 A captain should lead by example. What concerned me most was when there were breaks in play - he was very quiet. He should have been getting into the team and organising them - not looking down at the ground. 2 hours after leaving the ground and traveling 100+ miles home I am still fuming. That was unacceptable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: He resembled Neil Kilkenny today in those respects. He will never resemble Kilkenny! Kilkenny avoided contact just like Paterson and LJ - made sure he was close to the opposition when we were attacking and out of position when we were defending! His game has dropped right off, never rated him before but he has grown on me, but he does not need to be captain - too much pressure! He does need a break and I think if he got one Brownhill would do a better job in midfield. Paterson needs to go hide in the cupboard under the stairs and end his affair with LJ, it’s bloody embarrassing (shit can I say that?) not very PC is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, dave36 said: He will never resemble Kilkenny! Shouting at the ref, team mates, anyone else and failing to take responsibility himself? Or grab the game by the scruff of the neck? Looks a lot like Kilkenny to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilRascal Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Pack was really poor today. (They all were). What I’d give for a proper midfield general type. Need someone like Paul Hartley to come in this January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: I can. Pato always seems to get a go. What rubbish, did he start today? How many times has he started in the last 8 or so games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, old_eastender said: Quite right, start of this season Pack was playing well, but for the last 7 or 8 games he has been really poor. Today it was Pack who lost the ball on the halfway-line, then allowed the Preston player to turn through 360 and stride away from him which started the break from which they scored. His long range passing has always been hit and miss, but in this recent run even short range passes are going astray. Add to this arguing pointlessly with refs, whilst the opposition take the FK and get on with play, and even in the last minute stretching for a header and takng the ball away when Maenpaa looked odds on to have a clear header on goal from our corner. Pack needs to be dropped but won't be by LJ, in the same way as LJ always gives Pato game time. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, harrys said: What rubbish, did he start today? How many times has he started in the last 8 or so games? Come on mate Pato has been given endless opportunities and has been abject since January last season. Still getting game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 6 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: I thought Pack and Brownhill really let the rest of the team down today. Probably shattered tbf to them but LJ won’t rest either of them. shattered, and why would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Needs to be dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 9 hours ago, pillred said: shattered, and why would that be? They don’t get rest. It is a 46 game season and they are usually in a midfield 2 up against 3. The amount of running they have to do is astounding. 46 championship games is too much for 2 CM imo. Not just exclusively a tiredness factor either. It is also confidence. They probably do not feel tired as such but their bodies will not let them do things on the third game in a week that they usually do. Think this affects confidence in the long run. I don’t think it is any coincidence Pack hasn’t been as good these last 7-8 games. Think the championship caught up to him but we have no options to rest him. Hopefully the international break will give his legs time to rest and get his comfidence back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Dullmoan Tone said: I just wish he would take more responsibility to create an assist and play short (and forward) to feet, rather than see his primary role to feed it to the wings for someone to cross to no-one in particular. Yesterday part of the problem was his two midfield partners played so advanced there was nobody short to pass to. Kalas had the same issue too. The only good movement was from Weimann who looked much better yesterday, but then got shoved wide left and didn’t see the ball again! He is out of form though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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