Major Isewater Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: How have Oasis even been mentioned in this conversation?! And how have Radiohead not? Absolute genius. In terms of strike-rate of hits and given they were only around for three years The Smiths have to be up there. Radiohead , Thom York . Good call. Oasis , Beatle plagiarising numbskulls whose songs have no meaning but that doesn't matter because they rhyme and the Gallaghers have attitude. IMHO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, nebristolred said: Great shout, if we're talking single artists then for having the entire catalogue he has to be right up there. Honestly, it's even more impressive given that in reality he was nothing more than just a 'good' singer. When Bowie sang you knew instantly who it was. He had a voice which expressed emotions and perfectly carried the message of his songs. If we're talking single artists how about Elvis Costello ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Bowie wasn't a band though was he ? Depends how pedantic you want to be about it I guess. The Hype, The Spiders from Mars, the aforementioned Tin Machine are all bands. And he has always had musicians that have provided his backing band during his various phases and they would be both recoding and live band that were constant. Think Young Americans to Let’s Dance period you think of Carlos Alamar, Earl Slick, Dennis Davis, Robert Fripp amongst others. Then later on you had Mike Garson, Slick again, Gail Ann Dorsey amongst others. But get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: When Bowie sang you knew instantly who it was. He had a voice which expressed emotions and perfectly carried the message of his songs. If we're talking single artists how about Elvis Costello ? Oh absolutely. I'm not trying to do him a disservice, but you'd never describe him as a 'great' singer. He wasn't remotely powerful or in the same league as the singers of some bands mentioned in this thread. But that's a credit to him, because as you say, he surpassed that and still delivered songs perfectly. An absolute legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, nebristolred said: Oh absolutely. I'm not trying to do him a disservice, but you'd never describe him as a 'great' singer. He wasn't remotely powerful or in the same league as the singers of some bands mentioned in this thread. But that's a credit to him, because as you say, he surpassed that and still delivered songs perfectly. An absolute legend. What's your definition of ' great ' ? Pavarotti with his power, emotion and perfect notes or Lemmy for his perfect voice for heavy metal ? Put either artist in the other's position and it wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: What's your definition of ' great ' ? Pavarotti with his power, emotion and perfect notes or Lemmy for his perfect voice for heavy metal ? Put either artist in the other's position and it wouldn't work. You could easily bracket either of those with Freddie Mercury. You couldn't with Bowie. He was nothing more than an above-average singer imo. His greatness was in his artistic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Pixies. Next question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Pixies. Next question... Very good shout. Brilliant band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 19 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: How have Oasis even been mentioned in this conversation?! And how have Radiohead not? Absolute genius. In terms of strike-rate of hits and given they were only around for three years The Smiths have to be up there. In Rainbows is a masterpiece, one of my top 5 albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, nebristolred said: You could easily bracket either of those with Freddie Mercury. You couldn't with Bowie. He was nothing more than an above-average singer imo. His greatness was in his artistic ability. No other artist could have created critically acclaimed, and commercially successful classics such as "The Laughing Gnome"! Joking aside, I always thought that his voice suited his songs/lyrics, from the sort of mystical feel of "Oh You Pretty Things" to the laid back soul feel of the Young Americans album. Whereas with someone like Rod Stewart you pretty much knew how he would interpret any song he covered even before you heard it, Bowie's attempts to cover other artists work were pretty dire, I am thinking of the Pin-Ups album (although that album did lead me to some great songs I hadn't heard before) and don't get me started on that Xmas thing with Bing Crosby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverRed Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Squeeze...…….. simple really!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964w Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 10:31, One Team In Keynsham said: - In terms of a gig I enjoyed the most, New Order in Manchester, 1986. I saw New Order at the Hacienda when working in Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964w Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 15:45, lenred said: It's obviously incredibly subjective. But imho you'd be hard pressed to better Bowie. The ultimate musical chameleon but pretty much everything he touched turned to gold, (maybe not Tin Machine!) and live he was just incredible as the recent Glastonbury concert shows. I've heard from people that were around that he was just as good live in the early 70s as well. His breadth of tastes and ability to grow with the times were just incredible and his last two albums are as good as anything he did. If I was pushed it'd be Zavid every time! My hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964w Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 21:49, Kid in the Riot said: How have Oasis even been mentioned in this conversation?! And how have Radiohead not? Absolute genius. In terms of strike-rate of hits and given they were only around for three years The Smiths have to be up there. Radiohead are my favourite band of the 90's Still making great albums in the noughties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964w Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Brought up on the Beatles & the Stones Rolling stones are still one of my favourite bands Some great new albums in 2018 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 7 hours ago, ForeverRed said: Squeeze...…….. simple really!! I now live in Charlton, and Glenn Tilbrook lives a few roads away. The former tennant in the flat I live in is Glenn’s manager, he jammed with another band at my local pub the other week. My small link with Squeeze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Selred said: I now live in Charlton, and Glenn Tilbrook lives a few roads away. The former tennant in the flat I live in is Glenn’s manager, he jammed with another band at my local pub the other week. My small link with Squeeze! Going to see Glenn doing a solo gig at St Georges Hall just off Park Street on Wednesday of next week (28th November), really looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Bowie has managed to reinvent himself and embrace each new style/genre and kept producing great music. Managed to catch part of his set at the IoW fest 2003ish. For me it is almost impossible to say one 'greatest' band, I've had a few I've been mad on and loved everything they had done, but greatest?? 60 Foot Dolls, couldn't get enough of their first album. Stone Roses, first album on repeat for months , even the 2nd I think is under rated. The Who, say no more. Icicle Works, I thought they should have been massive. Open Colour Scene, some of the best riffs ever. When it comes down to it, for what they meant at the time and the enjoyment I got over the following years , it has to be the Jam for me. I got to see them 4 times, and Weller many times since, although he is a bit marmite these days. Live they were awesome, musically brilliant and how many bands have mentioned them as influencing factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 01:37, RedDave said: Lots of older bands being suggested. Post 2000 the best band has to be Arctic Monkeys. No weak albums and their first album and last two albums are superb Not a fan of Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino, but 6 consecutive albums debuting at number 1 speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Not a fan of Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino, but 6 consecutive albums debuting at number 1 speaks for itself. Trendy band like Coldplay. No particular merit other than being liked by the masses because they sound familiar and ripping off other artist's music . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 It's hard to argue against Bowie. Ok not a band but just an amazing talent especially if you ever saw him live. I was blessed on 2 occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 14/11/2018 at 19:29, Sir Leigh of Somerset said: The Waterboys for me. First saw them back in 1986 (I think it was) in the Colston Hall (supported by The Saw Doctors who are also an excellent band but in a different way!). The Waterboys (ie Mike Scott plus) are still touring regularly. Their album 'This is the Sea' (1985) is soooo good (as are all of them). Flounder: I always preferred Pagan Place to This is the Sea. There is a cracking Glastonbury recording from BBC In Concert from a few years later (Glastonbury 88 I believe) that’s is about on the net. As the Waterboys drifted towards Irish Folk. I drifted away and pretty much replaced them with the Wedding Present. Hi Flounder. Pagan Place was also a brilliant album (I especially liked the title track - 'A Pagan Place'). I went to Glastonbury in 1986 really just to see The Waterboys. I went with a mate who brought along two of the obligatory 5 litre packs of really rough farmhouse cider and some of his strong, home-grown smokes. By the time The Waterboys came on, I was in a complete stupor and coiled up on the ground in front of the stage so, after weeks of fairly excited anticipation, I didn't actually get to see any part of their performance. Happy days! I didn't ever go to Glastonbury again (for some reason I was put right off of it) but I'm fairly sure The Waterboys were there again in 1989 and have been back a few times since the 80s. I don't know The Wedding Present but I'll be looking them up. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 19 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Bowie has managed to reinvent himself and embrace each new style/genre and kept producing great music. Managed to catch part of his set at the IoW fest 2003ish. For me it is almost impossible to say one 'greatest' band, I've had a few I've been mad on and loved everything they had done, but greatest?? 60 Foot Dolls, couldn't get enough of their first album. Stone Roses, first album on repeat for months , even the 2nd I think is under rated. The Who, say no more. Icicle Works, I thought they should have been massive. Open Colour Scene, some of the best riffs ever. When it comes down to it, for what they meant at the time and the enjoyment I got over the following years , it has to be the Jam for me. I got to see them 4 times, and Weller many times since, although he is a bit marmite these days. Live they were awesome, musically brilliant and how many bands have mentioned them as influencing factors. Ocean Colour Scene are one of the most underrated bands in the last few decades imo, i suppose they got overshadowed by Oasis, Blur etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Having just mentioned Blur in my previous post i feel they and Damon Albarn need to be mentioned. This is a guy that keeps on getting better and better and his work with Blur and Gorrilaz along with many other solo projects are outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, yardy said: Ocean Colour Scene are one of the most underrated bands in the last few decades imo, i suppose they got overshadowed by Oasis, Blur etc I never really got into them but they keeping popping up with some bangers on my Spotify, along with Cast. Might need to do some research... 3 minutes ago, yardy said: Having just mentioned Blur in my previous post i feel they and Damon Albarn need to be mentioned. This is a guy that keeps on getting better and better and his work with Blur and Gorrilaz along with many other solo projects are outstanding. An underrated British legend is Albarn. Has anybody else ever headlined Glastonbury under 2 different acts? Fantastic musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, nebristolred said: I never really got into them but they keeping popping up with some bangers on my Spotify, along with Cast. Might need to do some research... Great live band and if you like your guitar riffs then they have some brilliant ones. As @yardy says very under rated, probably because Fowler , Craddock and the rest wern't as gobby and as good for a front page as the Gallaghers' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, yardy said: Ocean Colour Scene are one of the most underrated bands in the last few decades imo, i suppose they got overshadowed by Oasis, Blur etc Saw Ocean Colour Scene headline at Minehead last night. Not a band I ever listened to a great deal, but they were very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Saw Ocean Colour Scene headline at Minehead last night. Not a band I ever listened to a great deal, but they were very good. Haha yea i wanted to go but i couldn't blag any of my mates, seen them live 3 times and always a good show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Kraftwerk. Greatest twiddly nob group ever, certainly. Their impact on music (cue all the guitar bores...) as great as Lennon and McCartney. When it comes to originality (cue all the Can/Tangerine Dream/Krautrock bores) the boys from Dusseldorf piss all over the Fab Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 19:28, Flounder said: I always preferred Pagan Place to This is the Sea. There is a cracking Glastonbury recording from BBC In Concert from a few years later (Glastonbury 88 I believe) that’s is about on the net. As the Waterboys drifted towards Irish Folk. I drifted away and pretty much replaced them with the Wedding Present. Agreed - thirty years later I still listen to A Pagan Place most. Saw them many times but the best was Golddigers in Chippenham in ?late 1984, and then Mike Scott on his own with an acoustic guitar at Blackwood Miners Institute in the mid 90s. Can’t argue that the Beatles were the greatest band ever though. Almost everything that followed is owed to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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