Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Harry said: I didn’t go but have some very brief minutes from someone who did : - Lots of signings haven’t quite been what they expected. - Squad was tired after cup run. Hadn’t planned to make any signings in the January but had to rethink cuz of the tiredness. - LJ did a lot of ‘looking’ at Ashton when saying about having to sell Flint, Bryan & Reid. - Diedhiou was signed to play with Reid - felt they complimented each other and gave us a plan. With Reid sold they were looking for someone to fill that role but didn’t want to pay loads as they hope someone from academy will soon be able to step up. - Kelly is amazing and has interest from Man Utd (to which someone shouted - bloody play him then). - New training ground starting soon. - Jon Lansdown says the current badge doesn’t scream Bristol City. And neither does the Robin as other clubs have that. - Happy with academy and hopes to have at least 6 Bristolians in the first team in a few years. - There was free beer. - My mate said “that Ashton looks like a rogue trader to me - don’t like him”. Hang on ' Free beer ' . Johnson in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Anyone have a feeling there might be a bloody bear involved somewhere? If there is it would be Pooh ! 56 minutes ago, Badger08 said: Re the crest. I swear I overheard "concorde". Sort of makes sense Unique to Bristol and Toulouse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Shtanley said: You can understand where LJ comes from though. The guy spends far longer thinking about Bristol City than anyone else. Even joked at times that his marriage was on the rocks because he spends so much time on us. That is probably his biggest problem " thinking " about Bristol City . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not a lot Max Training Ground The EFL deal, of which in reality he said nothing January recruitment - Said That our main job was not to recruit but to hang on to what we’ve got , ( sounded like JB def wanted away) Admitted we got recruitment wrong And a new one I’d not heard, claimed we tried to buy off other Championship Clubs who wouldn’t consider business with us as we had become a threat which is feasible I'm sorry but I don't understand your last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I find the part about the Diedhiou transfer quite interesting. We signed Famara early on in the window, before we’d played any friendlies & seen how Reid would do as a striker. For us to be signing a striker to play alongside another player who hasn’t been played up front before doesn’t seem right to me, not sure I believe that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Any photos? Only the ones Pato took of LJ that are locked up in a safe somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I'm sorry but I don't understand your last sentence. I read it as..... rival Championship clubs roughly on par with us wouldn't sell players to us as it might make us stronger than them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He did make a bizarre claim at one point that Thirty..... yes thirty 30 Manchester United Scouts watched Lloyd Kelly at one game ..... As apparently United And Man City And someone else who I forget are using Lloyd as a case study That could well be correct at a recent home game a row of the seats behind the dugout where the youth teams normally sit was filled with blokes in identical black training gear, none showing any badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That’s exactly what I was suggesting Hodge Give him complete governance / control of all development Dont think he would have done it though, he’s very. Confident in his abilities I have tbh I fear his weakness might be the actual connection with and credibility with players and getting the best from them He does say some strange things , and one minute sounds quite convincing , but then makes a big claim or says something that doesn’t come across as credible or make sense ....I can imagine players switching off from it I can see that experienced players would soon tire of his ' big talk' and more bizarre statements. I just don't see LJ as a leader, I could well be wrong but for me, he doesn't have that aura or credibility. I think , given time, he could well be a successful coach but not a manager or a HC. IF he is removed from his current role I can see his next job as a first team coach or as Academy Head somewhere else. As you say Bob - right man wrong job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I think he probably does Shtanley Im sure this may be part of the problem , When you talk to him stats and analysis and tactics the constant theme My one bit of advice personally , would be put the stat packs and the lap tops aside, go with your footballing gut and what you’re watching not intricate stats Would agree with most of that, aside from one point- which is that these becoming an increasingly important part of the game. Higher you go, more relevant it can be. Saw on another site, Head of Football Analytics for Leicester vacancy. £80-100k something like that. LJ perhaps wants to give himself an edge, be up with and ahead of the curve in this sense. That job at that club, fairly established PL, top half/midtable, yet quite a big salary. Saw this part of the job description also shows the direction of travel for the Football side of Analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Would agree with most of that, aside from one point- which is that these becoming an increasingly important part of the game. Higher you go, more relevant it can be. Saw on another site, Head of Football Analytics for Leicester vacancy. £80-100k something like that. LJ perhaps wants to give himself an edge, be up with and ahead of the curve in this sense. That job at that club, fairly established PL, top half/midtable, yet quite a big salary. Saw this part of the job description also shows the direction of travel for the Football side of Analytics. perhaps he should leave it to the experts and focus on the coaching bit, he can always get their input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: perhaps he should leave it to the experts and focus on the coaching bit, he can always get their input Coaching- think he's good and more at that...up to a point. The point where his effectiveness drops IMO is with more established players- great, at times fantastic with players on the up. Players be they strong Championship performers or played in the PL or top flights abroad, not always so much- and more worryingly from that perspective their effectiveness seems to drop over time under him. Not always but it's a worrying trend for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Coaching- think he's good and more at that...up to a point. The point where his effectiveness drops IMO is with more established players- great, at times fantastic with players on the up. Players be they strong Championship performers or played in the PL or top flights abroad, not always so much- and more worryingly from that perspective their effectiveness seems to drop over time under him. Not always but it's a worrying trend for me. They can probably see through the waffle. Old and cynical as I am, I can see/hear through the corporate/middle-management talk at work, while the younger ones are more impressionable. That doesn't make me resistant to change but I will ask for more clarity and information - which LJ might feel uncomfortable with when dealing with his more experienced players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Harry said: - Jon Lansdown says the current badge doesn’t scream Bristol City. And neither does the Robin as other clubs have that. If that's the criteria I propose a photo of Lee Johnson and in the background one half depicting hell and the other high water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, dave36 said: That could well be correct at a recent home game a row of the seats behind the dugout where the youth teams normally sit was filled with blokes in identical black training gear, none showing any badges! They are club staff, not scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 21, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Shtanley said: If they're hoping to have at least 6 Bristolians in the first team then I'm genuinely enthralled by that. A very bold statement to make, are our academy sides really made up of just Bristolians then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 17 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: We don't need plastic bull shit Do they still sell that at the Joke Shop? .. I remember having some plastic 'doggy doo doo' years ago and hours and hours of hilarious fun and laughter ensued. (top tip, drizzle a little liquid over and around it for a truly realistic display) … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 21, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Any photos? Nicked from @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: The attendance was again pitiful LJ commented he was dissapointed It must give the impression that the fans aren’t actually that interested Putting aside any criticisms or concerns and there are many , I think they are a positive thing and would be much better if more attended , and they were longer Tbf to LJ ,DH and JM they all hang around afterwards as did MA and JL and were there to ask direct questions - that’s the real value Lee certainly had a polite grilling It’s a shame about the attendance. But I was in London, taking the chance during International break that there would be no football, and then this is arranged. I would have liked to have attended, and I expect others were committed elsewhere too. For some fans who live 20 or 30 miles away or more it’s not easy either, perhaps worth the time and effort for a match but not otherwise. But my part it wasn’t lack of interest, just couldn’t be in two places at once. Can you feed this back please @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO, I don’t mean about me personally, but I’m sure it isn’t lack of interest. Perhaps lack of faith anything will happen because of these meetings, but that’s down to the club to act on feedback. If people see ideas are being taken into consideration by the club they are more likely to interact? And on the other hand if the club explain why things are so and can’t happen people will listen I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I was there last night and, as others have said, the formal Q&A was not that informative, but the "afterchat" was good. LJ can certainly talk and talk about tactics, statistics, psychology etc. but he seems to make everything too complicated. If he was a Prem. manager where the players are smarter, fitter and faster, I can see that that management style might work, but in my opinion, the players who we can afford aren't savvy enough for this type of management and seemed confused at times. I was always told that football is a simple game, get the ball in your opponents half and stick it on the net. I know that all this tech. speak is the modern way, sometimes done to impress, but it all seems over the top to me. I say get back to basics, pick your best team, encourage and praise them and stick with them for half a dozen games, come what may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Is there another forum this season … Date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 21, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, RedM said: Can you feed this back please @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO, I don’t mean about me personally, but I’m sure it isn’t lack of interest. Perhaps lack of faith anything will happen because of these meetings, but that’s down to the club to act on feedback. If people see ideas are being taken into consideration by the club they are more likely to interact? And on the other hand if the club explain why things are so and can’t happen people will listen I’m sure. That's why I asked about the SC&T, I thought they organised the ones at away matches, and am sure there was mention that a future event would take place on a matchday about noon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, phantom said: That's why I asked about the SC&T, I thought they organised the ones at away matches, and am sure there was mention that a future event would take place on a matchday about noon? To be honest I was reading backwards and read your post just after I posted, you made pretty much the same points as me first. Either the club has to reach out into the communities within its catchment area or a better idea as you say is to do something early on a match day, or perhaps an hour or so afterwards ( when LJ prays for a win ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That’s exactly what I was suggesting Hodge Give him complete governance / control of all development Dont think he would have done it though, he’s very. Confident in his abilities I have tbh I fear his weakness might be the actual connection with and credibility with players and getting the best from them He does say some strange things , and one minute sounds quite convincing , but then makes a big claim or says something that doesn’t come across as credible or make sense ....I can imagine players switching off from it Nice summary of events BobBob. Thanks. Always difficult reading others analysis of events due to likelihood of selective evidence being used to reinforce prejudices/stances. However, it is a bit alarming that LJ in person appears the same LJ as presented through the media. Ok I’m getting on now but still not convinced that the snowflake generation of footballers couldn’t be better managed by a naturally strong motivator and leader who, if they don’t fear, have massive respect for. Suppose the counter argument would be ‘look at Gareth Southgate’. But then again as a footballer, he was known as a good captain/talker. Please no Concorde on the badge, that’s just crass. Suspension Bridge, gate and robin with, if required, a modern twist. Tells you all you need to know about our Football Club. Things don’t look like they’re going to be improving soon. Oh dear. We always appear to have the best intentions, but never seem to get it just right. May be that could be the Club motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: They can probably see through the waffle. Old and cynical as I am, I can see/hear through the corporate/middle-management talk at work, while the younger ones are more impressionable. That doesn't make me resistant to change but I will ask for more clarity and information - which LJ might feel uncomfortable with when dealing with his more experienced players. Nail.....Head.....On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Forum or Againstum it's good that they take the time to do these events . Shame about the attendance but they should have highlighted the free beer part in the publicity. I am so frustrated by LJ , he is , by all accounts a lovely, honest , hardworking bloke and yet ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Thanks to all who attended and have reported back to us exiles. The comments fully reflect my views about where LJ's faults lie, and go some way to explaining the highs and lows of his teams I fear this particular dog won't be learning new tricks any time soon. He appears to be somewhat over confident in himself - is arrogance too strong a word to use? Rather depressing in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 12 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He did come out with the ‘No one in Bristol hurts more when we lose’ ( Personally I cringe when he keeps saying that) at which point a guy quite forcefully said ‘No you don’t, Ive been a season ticket holder for 60 yrs , you don’t hurt more than I do’ Neuroscience can measure this and determine who hurts most. I want to see the club organise this. We need to know. I suggest we arrange it for immediately after the next time we play Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 12 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree Ohhhhh Reminds me Training ground Finally got the all clear from Sec of State 10 days ago Hope to start work in spring Will take 18 months before they can move the whole academy etc over to Failand but the training ground will be ‘the business’ So training ground to be up and running in about 2 years from now, assuming no delays on what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Well said that fan. Plus a hell of a lot of us have been regulars at AG since long before LJ was even born. He really doesn't help himself sometimes. Doesn’t he? You go into your job on a Monday, safe in the knowledge City losing is disappointing but not your fault. If you knew it was your personal responsibility I imagine it would “hurt” a lot more. Not an argument I imagine LJ wants to pick with a fan, but we are precious. It is very funny how whenever someone doesn’t do a Fans’ Forum or an interview, they are hiding... but if they front up, everyone is suddenly busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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