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'Generational scandal' as number of child problem gamblers quadruples to 50,000


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5 minutes ago, swampy said:

CITY REVEALS DUNDER AS NEW SHIRT SPONSOR

 

Bristol City is pleased to reveal that Dunder, one of the fastest-growing online casino companies in the world, is its new front of shirt sponsor.

There is advertisement everywhere in the world, if someone wants to gamble, drink, smoke do drugs they will, it isn't the fault of city having it as a sponsor! City got a very good deal from what they said so stop trying to use it as a way to slag the club off

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"The most common activities that children gamble on are not licensed casinos, bingo providers or bookies. 

"Instead we found children preferred to gamble in informal environments, out of sight of regulation - private bets between friends or playing cards with their mates for money."

So not what Dunder are then.

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4 hours ago, swampy said:

Thank you Bristol City for supporting this initiative by plugging Dinder on your shorts ...  

shorts = shirts (of course).

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-21/children-gambling-study/

Do you have ANY form of insurance, save arguably car insurance mandated by law? 

If your answer is yes, guess what, you’re a gambler. 

Risk/reward is a part of life. Whether that’s approaching a girl in a bar, changing job, embarking upon university and £50k of debt, picking your bank account, choosing how to invest your money (even if not consciously choosing). It’s about time the recreation of it is less stigmatised in my opinion. I also feel no distaste in ‘underage’ gambling. Yes it can be addictive, but this is capitalism and the whole way we exist is risk/reward. People need to learn what is acceptable and unacceptable risks to merely exist nowadays. That’s an absolute fact in capitalism.   

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18 minutes ago, 29AR said:

Do you have ANY form of insurance, save arguably car insurance mandated by law? 

If your answer is yes, guess what, you’re a gambler. 

Risk/reward is a part of life. Whether that’s approaching a girl in a bar, changing job, embarking upon university and £50k of debt, picking your bank account, choosing how to invest your money (even if not consciously choosing). It’s about time the recreation of it is less stigmatised in my opinion. I also feel no distaste in ‘underage’ gambling. Yes it can be addictive, but this is capitalism and the whole way we exist is risk/reward. People need to learn what is acceptable and unacceptable risks to merely exist nowadays. That’s an absolute fact in capitalism.   

have you got any tips?I have no problem with kids betting if the machines aren't fixed in the favour of the owner.

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And once again, in 'no-blame snowflake Britain' - it's not the parents fault......

The state bears no responsibility to be a parent.

Every British child won the post-code lottery.

Free education for 18 yrs

Free health care (inc mental health)

Etc etc

The country has done it's bit.

How about parents remember to teach their children right from wrong?

95% of the rest of the world's parents would kill to give their children the chance they have in "The West"

The amount of parents who abdicate all responsibility for the child they created is appalling.

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You make your choices in life but the same day this story broke was also the day we heard that the CEO was paid £265m for one year of work with bet 365 which she partly owns.

Some things in life are just plain wrong but its not BCFC at fault.

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5 hours ago, bobby kellard was go said:

You make your choices in life but the same day this story broke was also the day we heard that the CEO was paid £265m for one year of work with bet 365 which she partly owns.

Some things in life are just plain wrong but its not BCFC at fault.

She is the daughter of Peter Coates who owns Stoke City and made much of his money from gambling.

One could also say that SL made his fortune from other peoples money in a form of gambling?

But all addictions stem from complicated scenarios. And all addicts, whether it be tobacco, alcohol, gambling or even coca cola, chocolate, arise partially from an individuals lack of self discipline and/or a fear of being found out.

Bombardment by advertising has grown significantly with the advent of mass media which is a lot more invasive than when I was a child. But it was there but a lot more subtle.

Parents have a huge responsibility and it's clear that some are unable or unwilling to bear this.

The old maxim "A little bit of everything is good for you. But a lot of one thing is not good."

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13 hours ago, swampy said:

Thank you Bristol City for supporting this initiative by plugging Dinder on your shorts ...  

shorts = shirts (of course).

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-21/children-gambling-study/

Bristol City specifically do NOT plug Dunder on kids replica shirts..! 

You really are scraping the barrel to even consider that Bristol City have a hand in the increased child betting problem. 

Not a surprise, because I find it hard to recall a single decent post you’ve ever made, but even for you, this is woeful trolling. 

Anyway, let’s hope we can get something from the game up at Leeds. You know, the one in the SKY BET Chsmpionship...!

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14 hours ago, swampy said:

Thank you Bristol City for supporting this initiative by plugging Dinder on your shorts ...  

shorts = shirts (of course).

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-21/children-gambling-study/

I see gambling ads and normal ads every day on every platform from phone to TV - doesn't make me want to go out and gamble or drink or buy a particular product.

Having a gambling company sponsor does not force people to pick up their phone, create an account and start gambling away all their hard earned money. It's just a name on a shirt. Just like all City fans weren't taking out DAS Insurance or buying used cars from Bristol Trade Centre.

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6 minutes ago, BessexRED said:

How’re 11-16 year olds racking up enough money to become gambling addicts then?

Too much pocket money. Until I left school at seventeen, I never had pocket money from parents. Cash was provided by parents if they had it when needed.

Back in the days when most families spent 50% of income on mortgage or rent, 45% on food, heating and lighting and 5% for everything else.

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Children are becoming gambling addicted due to gaming, not shirt sponsors. Almost every sport game has some form of cloaked gambling in it and any game with "loot boxes" encourage real money spending on luck based outcome.

I hate the gambling take over of shirt sponsors but as stated above, gaming is more of the issue with kids and that's coming from someone who has been gaming for the best part of 30 years.

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I do think that there should be more regulation of the endless plethora of in-play gambling adverts, especially during live sport. People don't even have to go down the bookies anymore, they can just open an app on their phone, without necessarily thinking of how much they've spent/lost. 

To be honest I don't particularly like the fact that we have a betting company on our gear now, but I believe that the ads I've mentioned above are far more insidious than anything any football club has on its jersey.

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10 hours ago, 29AR said:

Do you have ANY form of insurance, save arguably car insurance mandated by law? 

If your answer is yes, guess what, you’re a gambler. 

Risk/reward is a part of life. Whether that’s approaching a girl in a bar, changing job, embarking upon university and £50k of debt, picking your bank account, choosing how to invest your money (even if not consciously choosing). It’s about time the recreation of it is less stigmatised in my opinion. I also feel no distaste in ‘underage’ gambling. Yes it can be addictive, but this is capitalism and the whole way we exist is risk/reward. People need to learn what is acceptable and unacceptable risks to merely exist nowadays. That’s an absolute fact in capitalism.   

Oh come on. There is absolutely nothing which makes taking out insurance in any way similar to the way that gambling in it's most obvious sense stimulates the brain's reward system. There is an absolutely massive distinction between the two.

"People need to learn what is acceptable and unacceptable risks to merely exist nowadays. " - This is exactly the problem which gambling exaggerates.

I should add, I bet several times a month. I'm not against gambling as such, but I had to call the above out.

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27 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

Oh come on. There is absolutely nothing which makes taking out insurance in any way similar to the way that gambling in it's most obvious sense stimulates the brain's reward system. There is an absolutely massive distinction between the two.

"People need to learn what is acceptable and unacceptable risks to merely exist nowadays. " - This is exactly the problem which gambling exaggerates.

I should add, I bet several times a month. I'm not against gambling as such, but I had to call the above out.

You're right each will stimulate in very different ways, but only because one has 'prize' and one has 'reinstatement'. They are both aleatory contracts - agreements on uncertain events. Perhaps I'm too black and white... or I get my kicks from covering my liabilities through insurance payouts 

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Only one person to blame and that’s Gordon Brown, he totally opened up the gambling industry when in power. where as every other country in the modern world was clamping down on it . I remember particularly at the time how Australia were clamping down and just couldn’t believe what we were doing in the UK. They had seen all those issues we are now talking about ... If only we had known... Thanks Gordon .

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9 minutes ago, Turbored said:

Only one person to blame and that’s Gordon Brown, he totally opened up the gambling industry when in power. where as every other country in the modern world was clamping down on it . I remember particularly at the time how Australia were clamping down and just couldn’t believe what we were doing in the UK. They had seen all those issues we are now talking about ... If only we had known... Thanks Gordon .

Here in Estonia, you cannot bet online unless it is an Estonian provider and there are not many, no high street betting shops either, the only ones you can use are in Casinos, I can't even get football streams from any online betting site,  as the Customs board blocks it.

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