iamsober Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 Top 6 ? I think people are more concerned about a slide into a relegation fight that we don’t look equipped for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 He’s spent a lot, our 3 best players he’s inherited. You cannot and should not ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 SL expects to be competitive in the top half and improve, what anyone else expects is irelavant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 I accept mid table to a degree but I do expect to watch tidy football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 Its not top 6 im bothered about. The constant deluded dross coming out of LJ’s mouth is! if he even remotely thinks we have an identity at the moment then we are in serious trouble. The bloke is now a fraud. An identity theft fraud!! Hes got to feel under pressure. He cant seriously believe the drivel hes telling everyone, can he?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 The three players were offered great deals, two in the PL...... Its SL who wants to see progress and that means a higher Championship finish than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langford Red Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 And the ones he brought in are CR*P Tell me the player who was sold is doing well!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 It's not all about budget. LJ has brought in a huge amount of players, it is his and his coaches job to make them better and fit them into a system of play- heaven knows what that is currently. They have failed, anyone who knows anything about the game can see there are major problems here. The form since last Jan even WITH those "3 best players" has been abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Why shouldn't we expect top 6 or even the holy grail of the Premiership ? There's been smaller clubs than us in the Prem Swindon, Oldham ,Blackpool, Wigan, Wimbledon, Barnsley, Bournemouth to name a few. If we are happy just being a mediocre team then we will never progress and might as well pack up. Aim high and never settle for second best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkInChance Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 It's not just about league position - for me it's a lot about the shocking performances and dross football that gets served up - zero entertainment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 I haven't seen too many people say we should be top 6. Nevertheless LJ has sold players he inherited for a lot of money and spent a significant amount to be where - 6 points off the relegation zone. That's not what he or SL sold us. If LJ is only capable of achieving the mediocrity that his budget allows, I'd suggest that we do not have a top class manager capable of punching above his weight. Therefore maybe SL should identify somebody that is. Cos in the meantime whats being achieved almost anybody could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 May we please merge all the anti Johnson threads? Fkin tedious to have many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol is red Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 No one expects us to be top 6? The reason we lack quality is because LJ has recruited poorly. Will we stay mid table though? We've dropped from 4th to 14th. I do find it concerning some on here are sticking their fingers in their ears singing 'la la la' and that everythings fine. Some harped on how we we're closer to the playoffs than relegation. Then it was we're equal distance between the two. Now it's 9 points off the playoffs and 5 off relegation spots but their not mentioning that. There's a reason alot are worried we won't even be midtable soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 The thing is, these 3 players that we have lost, were also part of THAT run after Christmas. They were all part of our disappointing 2nd half of the season. We seem to be in a similar, not the same - yet - but similar position without these 3 players. These 3 players, lets be fair, probably knew they were off in the summer during this run. It was obvious to us that it was extremely likely to happen, so it couldnt have been that much of a surprise to LJ and his team. The replacements should have been sorted long before they were sold. In Webster we have a different, but equally important defender as Flint was. Da Silva and Kelly have replaced Bryan, and in Reids replacement we have - Jamie Patterson.... Wrong position for him, is struggling for form, and is not his replacement. Wiemann seems to have gone missing, Famara is still on holiday (probably), and as much as he runs, Taylor is never going to score loads at this level. A strong goalkeeper has been needed for years, yet we still dont have one. Hunt is hit and miss, and Eros has disappeared. He's had his windows, he has HIS squad, but he still doesn't know his best 11. He still doesn't have the quality that is needed for this level. We currently have no identity on the field - last season it was obvious what we were trying to do. Does anybody really know what we're trying to do this season? Honestly? He has done a brilliant job so far on the whole. By that I mean, we are now better from top to bottom, and he has been heavily involved with that. There comes a time though, when it becomes clear that the sands of time are running low, and new blood is needed. Results need to pick up quickly, or he needs to go. We cannot afford to head into January in freefall with a head coach in charge who is still unclear on the best 11/formation/tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 The football is shocking, the bad runs embarrassing and with the exception of a few good months we’ve all had to put up with this for 3 years. He’s tactically inept and shows no signs of improvement and to make matters worse he’s surrounded himself with inexperience coaches. He doesn’t know his best 11, he’s spent a lot of money on bang average or young players with potential that he’s failed to tap into. Add to that he has sold most of the Crown Jewels he inherited. Forget league positions, just use your eyes and see the dross we are served most weeks. There is absolutely no reason to keep faith with the guy. Please Steve get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: May we please merge all the anti Johnson threads? Fkin tedious to have many This is a pro Johnson thread, turned into a anti Johnson thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 We can’t keep finding 20 goal a season strikers, losing Bobby is killing us, We have conceded the same amount as Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, 29AR said: He’s spent a lot, our 3 best players he’s inherited. You cannot and should not ignore that. Plus he said to give him 3 transfer windows to get his team, he's had more then that and millions to spend. All of our best players since he's been here where here before or on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, General Zod said: The football is shocking, the bad runs embarrassing and with the exception of a few good months we’ve all had to put up with this for 3 years. He’s tactically inept and shows no signs of improvement and to make matters worse he’s surrounded himself with inexperience coaches. He doesn’t know his best 11, he’s spent a lot of money on bang average or young players with potential that he’s failed to tap into. Add to that he has sold most of the Crown Jewels he inherited. Forget league positions, just use your eyes and see the dross we are served most weeks. There is absolutely no reason to keep faith with the guy. Please Steve get rid of him. Hey at least we haven't had to put up with Warnock style football which many on here mock in favour of what Johnsons teams have served up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Taz said: The thing is, these 3 players that we have lost, were also part of THAT run after Christmas. They were all part of our disappointing 2nd half of the season. We seem to be in a similar, not the same - yet - but similar position without these 3 players. These 3 players, lets be fair, probably knew they were off in the summer during this run. It was obvious to us that it was extremely likely to happen, so it couldnt have been that much of a surprise to LJ and his team. The replacements should have been sorted long before they were sold. In Webster we have a different, but equally important defender as Flint was. Da Silva and Kelly have replaced Bryan, and in Reids replacement we have - Jamie Patterson.... Wrong position for him, is struggling for form, and is not his replacement. Wiemann seems to have gone missing, Famara is still on holiday (probably), and as much as he runs, Taylor is never going to score loads at this level. A strong goalkeeper has been needed for years, yet we still dont have one. Hunt is hit and miss, and Eros has disappeared. He's had his windows, he has HIS squad, but he still doesn't know his best 11. He still doesn't have the quality that is needed for this level. We currently have no identity on the field - last season it was obvious what we were trying to do. Does anybody really know what we're trying to do this season? Honestly? He has done a brilliant job so far on the whole. By that I mean, we are now better from top to bottom, and he has been heavily involved with that. There comes a time though, when it becomes clear that the sands of time are running low, and new blood is needed. Results need to pick up quickly, or he needs to go. We cannot afford to head into January in freefall with a head coach in charge who is still unclear on the best 11/formation/tactics. He hasn’t been brilliant and we’re not better off from top to bottom.give me cottrills championship winning squad which he has brilliantly disassembled any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 When has it ever been the job of football fans to be "realistic"? Everyone should always be hoping and pushing for better than what is supposedly expected your team. Go on ridiculous runs of defeats time after time, make it look like you're making it up as you're going along, start blaming officials, luck, atmospheres, songs blah blah blah and you're gonna start getting the flack. This is not in any way shape or form , the fault of the fans and their expectations. You're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, paul_fox said: Plus he said to give him 3 transfer windows to get his team, he's had more then that and millions to spend. All of our best players since he's been here where here before or on loan Imagine the side we would have if we did not constantly have to sell over the last few seasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC-Tom Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, iamsober said: I’m pretty sure the majority thought at the start of the season after selling our 3 best players that mid table is what we should expect. League budget says we should be mid table. Not sure why people think we should be top 6 That's not the reason, it's watching shite every week, a team with no game plan, no idea what they are doing and LJ changing formation and lineup every single game, still hasn't got a clue of his best 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Like who? Since he's been in charge I can think of the 3 from summer and Kodjia? Can say that for a lot of teams and they manage and it's not like we've got bad deals for those. More then enough to get good replacements if we had a good manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: He hasn’t been brilliant and we’re not better off from top to bottom.give me cottrills championship winning squad which he has brilliantly disassembled any day We are in a better position, and this is coming from an anti LJ supporter. I liked Cotts as much as the next man, but his downfall was his stubborness (fielding 2 subs short to prove a point comes to mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted November 24, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rob k said: Imagine the side we would have if we did not constantly have to sell over the last few seasons... Did we have to sell? Or were players made better offers, thought their career would be better served by moving? Whilst you could hold onto a player who wants to go, it’s hardly conducive to squad harmony and morale. Maybe the players that upped sticks and left, felt there wasn’t the ambition or ability here to get them where they wanted to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, Taz said: We are in a better position, and this is coming from an anti LJ supporter. I liked Cotts as much as the next man, but his downfall was his stubborness (fielding 2 subs short to prove a point comes to mind). If Cotts was given the funds like Lee has had I'm sure he would've done better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, paul_fox said: If Cotts was given the funds like Lee has had I'm sure he would've done better Doesn't seem to be a very popular view among City fans, but I think you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Lucan said: Cotts was the epitome of a limited manager. His biggest limitation was his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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