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reddogkev

Enough of all this Johnson out Rubbish

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58 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Yeah, 47 transfers, tens of millions of liability incurred and what do we have to show for it? Now that's what I call having one's hands tied.......

47 transfers in 5 windows is it- 2 things jump off the page there.

1) That is far too many.

2) Has LJ known how to get the best, a consistent level out of most of them? I'd suggest not.

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3 hours ago, Robbored said:

Nobody ( expect me ) complained the same quality of football under his dad.........

.....and true to form, you do it again.

 

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4 hours ago, reddogkev said:

I wasn't strong enough with my thread a few days ago, now I will be.  I can't stand all this Johnson Out Crap.

The man is the Bristol City manager and a former player, who cares about the club; he deserves more respect and class then a few on here are showing him.

Leave the man alone and support the City.  Get down there on Sunday and cheer the lads to (hopefully) another win.

I'm not a happy clapper, I just honestly feel LJ is doing a good job in a bloody difficult league, where he is having his hands tied a bit by SL and the lack of spending power / sales of top assets.

I'm in bullish mood today, so if anyone wants to row about LJ, let's ave it on here!

I see now....you're Lee's mum.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

2) Has LJ known how to get the best, a consistent level out of most of them? I'd suggest not.

I think more apt is for most of them 'their best' would still be woefully inadequate at Championship level. Consistency should be a secondary consideration.

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4 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Kev,

We’re playing like cat shit. The form of the last few games will see us in the relegation mix. I don’t think he’s doing a good job. 

And the over reaction to beating relegation certainties Ipswich is baffling to me. 

I’d be so fickle to change my based on last night. 

Of course I wanted Lee to do well. I want all of our managers to do well. But he’s not doing well and I want him gone for the good of the club. 

:clap: I think Kev is after robboreds crown, fact is without the help of an own goal  we probably wouldn`t of beat the bottom team; LJ certainly fell on his feet last night.

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Just now, Bri Stool City said:

:clap: I think Kev is after robboreds crown, fact is without the help of an own goal  we probably wouldn`t of beat the bottom team; LJ certainly fell on his feet last night.

Oh!....so own goals don’t count then? 

 

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38 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Its simple...if you want to be mid-table or worse in this division then keep Johnson but if you want play offs or better then he aint the man to get that for us and we need to get in a proven manager.

Some folks are happy with their average team and have no massive desire for us to reach the promised land. 

I think that this "we know our station, sire"  mentality is why City have had a century of grey porridge.

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7 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

I think more apt is for most of them 'their best' would still be woefully inadequate at Championship level. Consistency should be a secondary consideration.

I don't know though- players who have played in the Bundesliga, come through a Juventus system, play for reasonable international sides or have good experience of the top 2 divisions in this country aren't total duds in the main.

Hunt, Baker and Weimann have good experience of top 2 divisions in England. Kalas strong record at this level.

Hegeler has played Bundesliga, Magnússon has been in youth system at Juventus, Diedhiou he has done alright in France, Djuric done alright in Italy. Didn't O'Neil start alright too?

It isn't, hasn't been a stellar squad, but am suggesting that LJ's limitations don't help- be it tactically or man-management wise. Moreover quite a few of these players started alright but declined- can't solely be because they're duds can it?

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29 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Its simple...if you want to be mid-table or worse in this division then keep Johnson but if you want play offs or better then he aint the man to get that for us and we need to get in a proven manager.

Some folks are happy with their average team and have no massive desire for us to reach the promised land. 

Just looking at the automatic and play offs at the moment

  • Norwich - Farke, unproven championship manager
  • Leeds - Bielsa, very good manager but not 'championship proven'. We'd be unlikely to tempt someone of his calibre from abroad.
  • Middlesbrough - Pulis.... Do I need to answer this one?
  • West Brom - Darren Moore, unproven manager
  • Sheffield Utd - Wilder, not a proven championship manager
  • Forest - Karanka, took 3 seasons to get Middlesbrough promoted when they were considered among favourites to go up each time requiring big funds to do so, would City fans be so patient? Forest is only his 2nd job as manager.

Frank Lampard's Derby County in 7th as well

Recently promoted teams, Jokanovic only had 1 seasons management in Watford (albeit successful) before taking over at Fulham, Huddersfield plucked Wagner into his first role, Nuno Santo despite managing Valencia and Porto only stayed at each for one season and wasn't a success at Porto. You can say the likes of Hughton, Warnock etc have been promoted but my point is its a very mixed bag of the experience of managers who get their teams promoted and going for an experienced manager doesn't guarantee it, Bruce at Villa, Derby/Stoke with Rowett, various clubs appointing McClaren etc.

Personally don't believe its about getting a 'proven' manager, its about getting a manager who is the right fit for the club and their style fits the players we have/can establish it.

 

 

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A quick count up of goals and games this season, it looks like we are averaging a goal every 81.9 minutes, hardly edge of the seat stuff, worse, we are conceding one every 75 minutes, so they ratios aren't too far apart, would it not take much to pull those ratios around and reverse them, if not, it doesn't look good for the season end.

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2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

You honestly, seriously, in a division as tough as this, where far bigger/richer clubs than us are around, or below, us... where we are closer to the play offs than the relegation zone... you genuinely feel that is just cause for demanding that our manager be replaced...? 

That's slightly distorted as 6pts to top six and 5pts to bottom six could also apply as there are twice as many spaces at the top as the bottom. He got lucky last night and we are now play off contenders, ok if that's what you believe.

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4 minutes ago, hodge said:

Just looking at the automatic and play offs at the moment

  • Norwich - Farke, unproven championship manager
  • Leeds - Bielsa, very good manager but not 'championship proven'. We'd be unlikely to tempt someone of his calibre from abroad.
  • Middlesbrough - Pulis.... Do I need to answer this one?
  • West Brom - Darren Moore, unproven manager
  • Sheffield Utd - Wilder, not a proven championship manager
  • Forest - Karanka, took 3 seasons to get Middlesbrough promoted when they were considered among favourites to go up each time requiring big funds to do so, would City fans be so patient? Forest is only his 2nd job as manager.

Frank Lampard's Derby County in 7th as well

Recently promoted teams, Jokanovic only had 1 seasons management in Watford (albeit successful) before taking over at Fulham, Huddersfield plucked Wagner into his first role, Nuno Santo despite managing Valencia and Porto only stayed at each for one season and wasn't a success at Porto. You can say the likes of Hughton, Warnock etc have been promoted but my point is its a very mixed bag of the experience of managers who get their teams promoted and going for an experienced manager doesn't guarantee it, Bruce at Villa, Derby/Stoke with Rowett, various clubs appointing McClaren etc.

Personally don't believe its about getting a 'proven' manager, its about getting a manager who is the right fit for the club and their style fits the players we have/can establish it.

 

 

Agree with this- its not always about a proven manager but the right manager. Real mixed bag as you say.

Wouldn't say no to someone like McCarthy though, at the same time though would we get a top manager? Can't say I'm in the 'LJ Out' camp but he definitely has limitations and more worryingly doesn't seem to improve on them.

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5 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said:

That's slightly distorted as 6pts to top six and 5pts to bottom six could also apply as there are twice as many spaces at the top as the bottom. He got lucky last night and we are now play off contenders, ok if that's what you believe.

Who said we were play off contenders..?! 

I was clearly illustrating that we were mid-table. Probably where we should be, in the pecking order. 

Can you really sack your manager for not exceeding expectations..?! 

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4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Who said we were play off contenders..?! 

I was clearly illustrating that we were mid-table. Probably where we should be, in the pecking order. 

Can you really sack your manager for not exceeding expectations..?! 

Ipswich :ph34r:

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6 minutes ago, hodge said:

Ipswich :ph34r:

Indeed! Perfect example and now they are in trouble. 

The people who aren’t happy with where we are under LJ, which is their right and they are entitled to feel that way, should just take a moment and think about who is available, realistic and will they actually assure us any addition progression than someone who knows the club inside out, actually cares and currently has as about where realistic expectations would dictate. 

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5 hours ago, reddogkev said:

I wasn't strong enough with my thread a few days ago, now I will be.  I can't stand all this Johnson Out Crap.

The man is the Bristol City manager and a former player, who cares about the club; he deserves more respect and class then a few on here are showing him.

Leave the man alone and support the City.  Get down there on Sunday and cheer the lads to (hopefully) another win.

I'm not a happy clapper, I just honestly feel LJ is doing a good job in a bloody difficult league, where he is having his hands tied a bit by SL and the lack of spending power / sales of top assets.

I'm in bullish mood today, so if anyone wants to row about LJ, let's ave it on here!

I cannot describe how much I dislike this post.. Absolute horse shit doesn’t do it justice!! 

There’s no hope for this club when people like you continuously support a manager serving up complete and utter shit week in week out.. What is wrong with you? Do you enjoy this?

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2 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said:

I cannot describe how much I dislike this post.. Absolute horse shit doesn’t do it justice!! 

There’s no hope for this club when people like you continuously support a manager serving up complete and utter shit week in week out.. What is wrong with you? Do you enjoy this?

******* speechless!!!

No it's spot on and what alot of people agree with. I've said this on other threads. We are in a top top league, one of the best in the world. We are below budget for the league and we sell our best players for financial reasons. We have no given right to win any game or dominate any team, when there is better players on massive wages. We are mid table and will finish there. If city fans aren't happy with that your deluded!! Having been a season ticket for near on 30 years I can assure the younger supporters we have seen far far worse and in the lower leagues. Nevermind this brilliant exciting league!!! 

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10 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said:

I cannot describe how much I dislike this post.. Absolute horse shit doesn’t do it justice!! 

There’s no hope for this club when people like you continuously support a manager serving up complete and utter shit week in week out.. What is wrong with you? Do you enjoy this?

******* speechless!!!

Spot on , we don’t have to except total shit performances, lj has signed enough players to field 3 teams and not one of them would be any good, anybody who thinks the football on display for the majority of this year is anything other than dire , needs there head tested, Johnson out.

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5 hours ago, reddogkev said:

I wasn't strong enough with my thread a few days ago, now I will be.  I can't stand all this Johnson Out Crap.

The man is the Bristol City manager and a former player, who cares about the club; he deserves more respect and class then a few on here are showing him.

Leave the man alone and support the City.  Get down there on Sunday and cheer the lads to (hopefully) another win.

I'm not a happy clapper, I just honestly feel LJ is doing a good job in a bloody difficult league, where he is having his hands tied a bit by SL and the lack of spending power / sales of top assets.

I'm in bullish mood today, so if anyone wants to row about LJ, let's ave it on here!

Attention seeker.

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38 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I don't know though- players who have played in the Bundesliga, come through a Juventus system, play for reasonable international sides or have good experience of the top 2 divisions in this country aren't total duds in the main.

Hunt, Baker and Weimann have good experience of top 2 divisions in England. Kalas strong record at this level.

Hegeler has played Bundesliga, Magnússon has been in youth system at Juventus, Diedhiou he has done alright in France, Djuric done alright in Italy. Didn't O'Neil start alright too?

It isn't, hasn't been a stellar squad, but am suggesting that LJ's limitations don't help- be it tactically or man-management wise. Moreover quite a few of these players started alright but declined- can't solely be because they're duds can it?

There's a right selection here.

Your first paragraph appears to reference at least two players who, how shall we say, only ever figured as bit part players, weren't fancied by WeeLee and departed even though they were better than the dross they were replaced by.

Para two - what's experience to do with talent? Hunt can't defend (his primary function we were told,) and Wiemann is much experienced in notching 4-5 a season (not what I'd call striker material.) Two centre halfs I'd no problem with, solid but not outstanding, though post Pearson's hatchet job on Kalas looks to me as though he's lost his nerve. Hegeler methinks to be an urban myth, somebody said they once saw him in North Street but I'm not so sure.

Para 3 the two D Lumps upfront did nothing abroad, much as they've done/did little here - so no surprises there. O'Neill was instrumental in keeping us up but not so good as to become surplus to requirements once he and Tomlin called WeeLee out for his over exaggerated opinion of himself and his managerial talents. Last two seasons there have been more sightings of Lucan than GoN.

Personally, I think WeeLee has an uncanny ability to rub anybody with talent, or anybody brave enough to point out they're miles better than ever he was, up the wrong way. He buys lots of players in his own likeness - short, limited, unambitious, non-creative runarounds. All space filler, no thriller.

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Another idiot living in dream land!! In this league unlike div one you will not dominate any team. You will not thrash any team, the league is tight and games will be scrappy!! Games will be won by brilliance or good finishing. Not many teams are dominating games or winning by a large margin.I'll also add we have not been thrashed. I'm sure alot of fans with bigger budgets and better players will be just as deluded as our supporters!! The most competitive league I have ever known! We are exactly where we should be in the league at present. After losing 3 top players and bedding in new players and getting the injured players back are doing OK. Certainly doesn't deserve the massive over reaction on this site!! 

 

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13 minutes ago, glen humphries said:

Spot on , we don’t have to except total shit performances, lj has signed enough players to field 3 teams and not one of them would be any good, anybody who thinks the football on display for the majority of this year is anything other than dire , needs there head tested, Johnson out.

 

3 minutes ago, keynshamred said:

Another idiot living in dream land!! In this league unlike div one you will not dominate any team. You will not thrash any team, the league is tight and games will be scrappy!! Games will be won by brilliance or good finishing. Not many teams are dominating games or winning by a large margin.I'll also add we have not been thrashed. I'm sure alot of fans with bigger budgets and better players will be just as deluded as our supporters!! The most competitive league I have ever known! We are exactly where we should be in the league at present. After losing 3 top players and bedding in new players and getting the injured players back are doing OK. Certainly doesn't deserve the massive over reaction on this site!! 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, keynshamred said:

 

 

I’m no idiot mate , losing our best 3 players, the same 3 that played after Christmas and we were still shit, not expecting us to roll teams over , just to be half decent to watch and to be entertained will do me , we’re a poor side , don’t think our fans are deluded, just want to watch some decent football, the football since Christmas has been on the whole rubbish, Johnson out 

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6 hours ago, reddogkev said:

I wasn't strong enough with my thread a few days ago, now I will be.  I can't stand all this Johnson Out Crap.

The man is the Bristol City manager and a former player, who cares about the club; he deserves more respect and class then a few on here are showing him.

Leave the man alone and support the City.  Get down there on Sunday and cheer the lads to (hopefully) another win.

I'm not a happy clapper, I just honestly feel LJ is doing a good job in a bloody difficult league, where he is having his hands tied a bit by SL and the lack of spending power / sales of top assets.

I'm in bullish mood today, so if anyone wants to row about LJ, let's ave it on here!

The quicker the absolute baffoon is sacked the better, incompetent mumbling joke of a manager

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5 hours ago, keynshamred said:

Bloody good post. We sell our 3 best players and everyone expects us to be in the top 6. Deluded fools! If we finish anywhere between 10th and 16th we should all be happy. Think last night would have helped confidence and we have big players coming back to fitness. There is no reason why we can't go on a run of wins now. Always better against better teams so bring it on!!! 

Norwich sold Maddison and Pritchard (who I'd argue are better than the three we sold) and they're flying.

We're not the only team in our division to have sold their best players.

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19 minutes ago, glen humphries said:

I’m no idiot mate , losing our best 3 players, the same 3 that played after Christmas and we were still shit, not expecting us to roll teams over , just to be half decent to watch and to be entertained will do me , we’re a poor side , don’t think our fans are deluded, just want to watch some decent football, the football since Christmas has been on the whole rubbish, Johnson out 

We have played well in parts of games, but that's my point there is two teams playing in a tight league and not one team will dominate a game for 90 minutes. I've watched plenty of championship football this year and can't say many teams dominate or entertain apart from maybe Leeds and villa. Look what they have spent on forward players and there wages. We're miles behind in terms of these players but yet we sit in a good position as it stands. A win Sunday and it could be 11 pts of relegation and 4/5 off play offs. City fans quick to get so negative but when we go on a run are silent. Enjoy the ride!! 

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Just now, Bazooka Joe said:

Norwich sold Maddison and Pritchard (who I'd argue are better than the three we sold) and they're flying.

We're not the only team in our division to have sold their best players.

Yeah and look at there budget compared with ours. Huge!! Both wages and the transfer fees. Maddison went for how much? They put it back into there squad we're not currently in that financial position yet having lost millions every season!! 

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2 minutes ago, keynshamred said:

We have played well in parts of games, but that's my point there is two teams playing in a tight league and not one team will dominate a game for 90 minutes. I've watched plenty of championship football this year and can't say many teams dominate or entertain apart from maybe Leeds and villa. Look what they have spent on forward players and there wages. We're miles behind in terms of these players but yet we sit in a good position as it stands. A win Sunday and it could be 11 pts of relegation and 4/5 off play offs. City fans quick to get so negative but when we go on a run are silent. Enjoy the ride!! 

Can’t enjoy watching crap , can you tell me our style of play ????

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3 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Norwich sold Maddison and Pritchard (who I'd argue are better than the three we sold) and they're flying.

We're not the only team in our division to have sold their best players.

If you chuck in the Murphy's they made the best part of £60m off four players, or lost £60m worth of talent. They've seemingly just recruited well without pushing the boat out. No transfer over £3.5m in the last 2 years.

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2 minutes ago, keynshamred said:

Yeah and look at there budget compared with ours. Huge!! Both wages and the transfer fees. Maddison went for how much? They put it back into there squad we're not currently in that financial position yet having lost millions every season!! 

What's their budget ?

What's our budget ?

Genuine questions as I don't know such inside information.

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15 minutes ago, frenchred said:

The quicker the absolute baffoon is sacked the better, incompetent mumbling joke of a manager

Why don't you get off the fence and tell us how you really feel ;)

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Just now, Loon plage said:

What's their budget ?

What's our budget ?

Genuine questions as I don't know such inside information.

Rough guess is that their wage budget will be a lot bigger than ours due to parachute payments

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15 minutes ago, frenchred said:

The quicker the absolute baffoon is sacked the better, incompetent mumbling joke of a manager

It makes you wonder what the hell SL was thinking of when he appointed a property speculator as a manager of a football club,i mean come on, if your child needed life saving surgery would you trust the local butcher to do the job,blame Sl ,Lee nice chap no doubt but will never in my opinion take this club forward

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21 minutes ago, frenchred said:

The quicker the absolute baffoon is sacked the better, incompetent mumbling joke of a manager

Absolute load of nonsense, utter rubbish.  Have you forgot the semi-final cup run last season and the win over a strong Man Utd team?  I've never heard Lee mumble, that's a strange new criticism to level at the man.

Honestly, have we been relegated with Lee in charge?

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6 hours ago, reddogkev said:

What do you mean, the good of the club?  Things look pretty good where I'm sitting.  Yesterday was a crucial win, and we delivered, it wasn't just papering over the cracks it was stopping a rot that a few had already suggested could last 8 or 9 games.  As you know, Fordy, teams battling relegation are sometimes the toughest opposition you can face.

For now... though I wouldn't really class 4 losses on the trot and a (just about) win against relegation strugglers Ipswich "pretty good" from where i'm sitting.

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10 minutes ago, glen humphries said:

Can’t enjoy watching crap , can you tell me our style of play ????

Style of play. Style of play. That's all I ever here. We had a style of play last year, that worked for 4/5 months and then got found out. Each team has different strengths, whether that be physical, direct, intricate etc. Each game in this league is different. It's all about getting results. Look at Middlesbrough, they don't have a way of playing and are near the top. They just keep it tight and try and nick the game. Unfortunately we can't afford the type of players they have both defensively or attacking wise. Plus from a fans point of few is prob boring to watch like when pulis was here! We are exactly where we should be on our budget. That's the bottom line!! 

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11 minutes ago, hodge said:

Rough guess is that their wage budget will be a lot bigger than ours due to parachute payments

Fair comment - they get nothing this season though, and I guess the £40m the season after relegation was used to pay up contracts or sell off at a loss on some of the players who went down with them. £34m last season though.

Still no idea what our budget is mind...

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@hodge @Loon plage

Norwich.

Their typical turnover at this level is about £30-35m and that's without parachute payments. No idea quite how it's so high!

Their wage budget will have been reduced and they should be FFP compliant in the 3 year rolling thing season because of taking tough decisions such as the big sales they made from Jan 2017. Their parachute payments are gone, but according to Kieran Maguire they had a one off cost of impairment of £12m last season- that means that their wage bill from those players down by £12m last year which all helps. They took tough decisions while the going was reasonable.

Now Stoke- if they don't go up by next season at the latest they are a club who will face a huge crunch. Possibly Middlesbrough too though they made good sales.

QPR unless they go up this season- it'll catch up with them, for Parachute Payments make up about maybe half their income.

Our turnover was last season £25m, dunno if it will be as high this year- probably in a typical year around £20-25m?

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3 hours ago, glynriley said:

Not a fan? Or is it your inner Gerrard Kenny......

So bad you named him twice.

I like Baker (the one from the first half of last season). The forum wont let me edit it again. 😑

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8 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

Absolute load of nonsense, utter rubbish.  Have you forgot the semi-final cup run last season and the win over a strong Man Utd team?  I've never heard Lee mumble, that's a strange new criticism to level at the man.

Honestly, have we been relegated with Lee in charge?

Should have been rambling baffoon. I haven't forgotten the manure game, just like I haven't forgotten the absolute majority of shitvperformances he has served up. Get rid as fast as we can. Useless and way way out of his depth

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6 minutes ago, keynshamred said:

Style of play. Style of play. That's all I ever here. We had a style of play last year, that worked for 4/5 months and then got found out. Each team has different strengths, whether that be physical, direct, intricate etc. Each game in this league is different. It's all about getting results. Look at Middlesbrough, they don't have a way of playing and are near the top. They just keep it tight and try and nick the game. Unfortunately we can't afford the type of players they have both defensively or attacking wise. Plus from a fans point of few is prob boring to watch like when pulis was here! We are exactly where we should be on our budget. That's the bottom line!! 

 Boro have definitely got a way of playing, and there bloody good at it , do you not think after signing 47 players we should, have a clear style, after all lj keeps going on about the project, and what about our identity, more lj bullshit, lj is not working on a shoestring budget, with what he’s spent we should be a little more cohesive, that last night was embarrassing 

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6 minutes ago, WestMidsRed said:

For now... though I wouldn't really class 4 losses on the trot and a (just about) win against relegation strugglers Ipswich "pretty good" from where i'm sitting.

When I say things are looking pretty good I'm taking a look at the bigger picture - not just a month's worse of poor form.  We are growing in the Championship and building a solid base to one day attack for the Premier League.  The infrastructure of the club is evolving constantly, things are on the up.

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Yes, we have had enough. The football is lacklustre with no tempo or passsion. Why Brexit when you are behaving like Italians. Behaving like ass holes Rolling around like Italians, No offence to Italian wome, We all love you. True class. So Beautiful. 

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7 minutes ago, glen humphries said:

 Boro have definitely got a way of playing, and there bloody good at it , do you not think after signing 47 players we should, have a clear style, after all lj keeps going on about the project, and what about our identity, more lj bullshit, lj is not working on a shoestring budget, with what he’s spent we should be a little more cohesive, that last night was embarrassing 

Last night was all about winning a football match. Needed for confidence. There are alot of teams that are struggling for consistent performance and results. Why, cause the league is so even and competitive. We are doing just fine and with big players coming back to form and fitness, there is no reason we can put some wins together. Are you happy with mid table this season or are you living in the dream world like most? If we had the budgets and parachute payments of  7/8 teams in this league we can expect alot more!! 

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1 minute ago, keynshamred said:

Last night was all about winning a football match. Needed for confidence. There are alot of teams that are struggling for consistent performance and results. Why, cause the league is so even and competitive. We are doing just fine and with big players coming back to form and fitness, there is no reason we can put some wins together. Are you happy with mid table this season or are you living in the dream world like most? If we had the budgets and parachute payments of  7/8 teams in this league we can expect alot more!! 

I’d be extactic with mid table with this clown in charge, what big players are coming back to form???,  can you tell me about our identity, lj keeps banging on about it , isn’t identity a style of play??

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Fammys form. Proved last year he is good enough for this league and his record in this league is still very good.  Odowda when he gets rid of his injuries. Bailey Wright a big influence in the 17. Two fit keepers. And in the new year the biggest. Smith!! Massive loss! Identity doesn't necessarily mean a way of playing. He has said this year we can't play the high press as last year as don't have the players for it. This year we have changed our game to who we are playing. Some times it has worked ie shef United and others is hasnt like the horrendous performance against Preston, still sitting mid table I may add. Think with players coming back to form and injury we will get a more consistent performance!! 

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2 hours ago, reddogkev said:

It hasn't been done too death, even today I read numerous posts still demanding LJ to be sacked.  I didn't post this after the match, ffs, my thread is because there has to be a time when all the usual suspects, who have made it perfectly clear they want LJ to leave at least a thousand times already, stop their relentless crusade and stop negatively slanting every single thread on here.  It is boring.  I read just as much rubbish aimed towards Lee today I have after a defeat.

The fact is, despite how it happened, City won last night, and still Lee Johnson receives no credit from his army of doubters.

He was credited for half of last season and the build up to the League Cup Semi’s and rightly so. However, after that Wolves defeat at home on December 30th 2017, we’ve been on a downward spiral which essentially has been relegation form. 

We wasted the January transfer window and from that time, we never really recovered from the poor form and mistakes. 

Results dipped and soon the performances followed. Since the Brentford game at home last season, I haven’t seen a game plan from LJ. To this day, I still haven’t seen one, and that’s a long time in football. 

The only possible time this season was away at Swansea. 

His credibility as City coach is slowly disappearing. We’ve been poor for the majority of the last 10 months, surely you can see that?

 

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