foghornred Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11571338/championship-power-rankings-derby-countys-harry-wilson-top We do not have one player in the top 50 Championship players but Tammy is 2nd if we can take any credit for that. Just shows that we are a team without individuals,maybe in January we may sign one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Even Ipswich have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Interesting. On whoscored we have Webster at 38 (one position above Flint). Whoscored filter it by players who have more appearances than the average number of appearances. Whoscored is also just this season's appearances, and I don't think they weight it for recent appearances. https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/7/Seasons/7379/Stages/16389/PlayerStatistics/England-Championship-2018-2019 Just a different angle. Although neither are flattering for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 To me, we have what I would call a lot of 6/10 players. Good, passable but few outstanding individuals- maybe one or 2 could develop into that and arguably some are being held back also by LJ's tactics. Surprised Kelly isn't in the top 50 at least, he's done great so far. That said a different manager could still probably get more out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 But that's form too. So not surprising we haven't got one. Earlier on in the season we had a few in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 How many players do we have in the top 10 of their position in the league? Only one I’d consider is Webster and there are a fair few quality CBs in the league so he’d be nearer to 9-10 if at all. We don’t have the best individuals but doesn’t mean we should not be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 4, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I don't think such stats mean we haven't got good individuals. Don't want to be rude, but that is exactly what those stats are pointing out Nobody in that side stands out consistently at the moment, yeah tactically we seem to get it wrong so often but if a player was putting in a shift we wouldn't have all the problems we are getting at the moment Let's be honest at best we are a lower mid table side at present, speaks for itself that the team are nowhere to be seen on this list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think it's the team we lack, not so much individuals? That might sound contradictory? A good manager would create a style of play which suits the available players and which is tactically astute [An Identity, if you will? Lee?] which is superior to it's parts. So players of an adequate standard can slot in and out of the adopted system. With a decent manager, we are a striker and a midfielder short of being a top ten side IMHO. I know they have Tammy and have spent big bucks, but Villa are now a different team [same players] now that they have a tactically aware, highly motivational manager.........they are no longer individuals, but a side with a successful system of play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Diédhiou was actually in the last one and the only Bristol City player that was in there. However I’m not too surprised we have no players in there as we have just had 4 losses in a row but if Eliasson and Kelly keeps up his form from the last two games and Diédhiou from the Ipswich game then hopefully that will change in the next top 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Think Kelly could have staked a claim for a place on the list but competing for a place with Dasilva would have hurt his case. An in form Brownhill could probably make a case for a place as could Webster as said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Stats are nonsense. Pick a top players list in this division and we have a few in it. If Webster isnt in that list then that fact makes it redundant. He has been superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 4, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, JonDolman said: So you think our players aren't giving their all? I would say many of them could / should be doing better, but agree with you about formations etc, but to me is collectively going wrong at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 This is gonna rustle a few ‘LJ in’ feathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, foghornred said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11571338/championship-power-rankings-derby-countys-harry-wilson-top We do not have one player in the top 50 Championship players but Tammy is 2nd if we can take any credit for that. Just shows that we are a team without individuals,maybe in January we may sign one. Luke Freeman plays for us doesn't he? He's 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sturny said: This is gonna rustle a few ‘LJ in’ feathers Not really The players he’s provided simply aren’t good enough .......and..... Its all Mark Ashton’s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rich_s said: Luke Freeman plays for us doesn't he? He's 14th. He's not championship standard tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, WolfOfWestStreet said: He's not championship standard tho Add Ayling Hes a crock of ****** At least we’ve upgraded there and only spent best part of £2 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: Not really The players he’s provided simply aren’t good enough .......and..... Its all Mark Ashton’s fault I’m sure that’s a ‘tough in cheek’ remark Bob......MA is the negotiator at the club. He tries to agree deals with players that LJ has told him to meet their agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 It will be interesting to see how SL react in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 He should appoint someone with documented knowledge of football and stop calling himself "advisor". If so he can call himself "Investor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 We have more or less been on a constant stand still since the club was founded. Time to do something right. Doing something would be a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 @bristolcitysweden Evening Tommy How are you and your compatriots feeling about Elliasson coming to the party and showing some real promise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Stats are nonsense. Pick a top players list in this division and we have a few in it. If Webster isnt in that list then that fact makes it redundant. He has been superb But he hasn't helped us be successful - only 7 other Championship teams have lost more games than us. Webster has to take some shared accountability for the defeats - this is probably why he's not as highly thought of.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: Evening Tommy How are you feeling about Elliasson coming to the party and showing some real promise ? I think he is pretty average. I expect professional footballers to be able to cross. Floating around in his own no mans land most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: I think he is pretty average. I expect professional footballers to be able to cross. Floating around in his own no mans land most of the time. Did you see the game Sunday ? His front foot approach , attacking intent and dangerous balls whipped in time after time were the bright spot Interesting comment ‘Floating around in his own no mans land most of the time.’ - Think that does resonate to date , but I think he’s getting much better , two good performances back to back , away and at home, good forward intent and working really hard at his defensive duties and positioning too He is one I’m starting to put in the LJ credit bank - he’s clearly been working with him and credit to NE he’s trying desperately hard to deliver in his all round game - it’s noticeable and his enthusiasm is noticeable and should be infectious He appears to have come as a very raw (naive) footballer but one with talent Afraid he might be a little lightweight but the lad has ability , and a very good attitude - if he can continue to learn he could be destined for better than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Did you see the game Sunday ? His front foot approach , attacking intent and dangerous balls whipped in time after time were the bright spot Interesting comment ‘Floating around in his own no mans He has put on to much mussel andland most of the time.’ - Think that does resonate to date , but I think he’s getting much better , two good performances back to back , away and at home, good forward intent and working really hard at his defensive duties and positioning too BCTV let us down for +40 min but I watched the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: BCTV let us down for +40 min but I watched the second half Ipswich ? He was IMHO excellent at Ipswich - worked hard at his positioning , tracking back and filling spaces as well as involvement in the goals Could have possibly done better on Ipswich’s first but I can see improvement in his all round game and a top predator would thrive on his crosses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: It will be interesting to see how SL react in January Hall inte andan! [Hope thats correct translation?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Dullmoan Tone said: But he hasn't helped us be successful - only 7 other Championship teams have lost more games than us. Webster has to take some shared accountability for the defeats - this is probably why he's not as highly thought of.. It’s a team game. If Kyle Walker played for us we probably wouldn’t be any better off. I blame Webster for nothing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, JonDolman said: So you think our players aren't giving their all? I don't see that personally. I see a team that is constantly changed, not just in personnel, but in tactics and philosophy. Our players cannot get any momentum. A different manager might get the exact same players playing so much better. I think we have a very good squad of players, but just need strengthening in a couple of areas. exactly this. if we could play the next game like we did for the short highlights of Saturday,we would be better but rather than go with that,lj will change the whole structure and tactics of the team so they don't have a starting point and have to find one before they get going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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