Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 There may have been a thread on this earlier in the season- merging them maybe an idea if there was, but who is out of contract in the summer? I know a few had a year option available too. Not thinking of those we have out on loan at this stage... So far I've got: Goalies: Fielding, Maenpaa Defenders: Pisano, Wright Midfielders and Wide players: Hegeler, O'Dowda Attackers: Taylor Are there any I've missed, and who has a year option? Think Fielding, Wright and Taylor have the latter. Obviously Kalas and Da Silva expire in the summer but take it as given that they'll be off in the summer anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Would keep maenpaa, Wright and COD. Offer Pisano a 1 year extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 My season ticket contract expires in the summer....I’m waiting for the club to re-open negotiations to persuade me to extend my contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Would keep maenpaa, Wright and COD. Offer Pisano a 1 year extension. Yeah sounds good options- don't think we have the year option on O'Dowda, hope he signs. This many contracts up/potential departures represents both a threat and an opportunity. Chance to reshape further (too much churn for my liking) and yet a big task- because if we get it wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 What will be interesting is how many want to stay. Agree with @Shtanley on who we should be courting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Didn`t Frankie sign a new contract back in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Here’s my list filtered on contract end 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Out of reactions but thanks, that's great clarity Dave. Highly important summer ahead then- could boost us, could see things decline...wonder how many will renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 49 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Would keep maenpaa, Wright and COD. Offer Pisano a 1 year extension. And let Taylor go on a free ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: And let Taylor go on a free ? Would he accept a contract only to then be sold? Don't see a chance for him here and his agent will be telling him to leave on a free and get a bigger pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Would he accept a contract only to then be sold? Don't see a chance for him here and his agent will be telling him to leave on a free and get a bigger pay day. Fair points If we are not careful our ‘trading’ is going to amount to losing players , we’ve paid fees for , on free transfers and then buy some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Would he accept a contract only to then be sold? Don't see a chance for him here and his agent will be telling him to leave on a free and get a bigger pay day. He’s done it once before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Fair points If we are not careful our ‘trading’ is going to amount to losing players , we’ve paid fees for , on free transfers and then buy some more In the unlikely event we took up no options (Fielding, Maenpaa and Wright as per Dave's spreadsheet) and nobody else decided staying here good for their career ie chose not to renew and obviously Kalas and Da Silva back to Chelsea or elsewhere. We would have only 16 members of first team squad. Now, we have Vyner and others to to return on loan- but that's a huge turnaround at this level and will be a defining summer. Has potential to be another tough summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Shtanley said: Would keep maenpaa, Wright and COD. Offer Pisano a 1 year extension. Could COD be converted into a LB....we are likely to have Pring by the time next season starts? Agree with those 3. I’m not sure if Morrell has a 1 year option if not....I guess we have development compensation if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Could COD be converted into a LB....we are likely to have Pring by the time next season starts? Agree with those 3. I’m not sure if Morrell has a 1 year option if not....I guess we have development compensation if not. Would give Morrell Holden and Pring new contracts. Didn't see ur list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Surely we let Bailey Wright go, he filled a void as cover when we needed it and played well out of position (mostly) but I don’t feel he will ever improve our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Can't see a single one of them wanting to stay. The old pros will be looking for a last payday in warmer climes, and the youth with ability will want to play full time. Any other player with an ounce of skill will probably follow Flints example and head somewhere more ambitious. Few loans in Jan to ensure champ status if needed then cash in on Kelly. Next year - "new squad takes time to gel" "Players I trust" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Could COD be converted into a LB....we are likely to have Pring by the time next season starts? Agree with those 3. I’m not sure if Morrell has a 1 year option if not....I guess we have development compensation if not. Would be better converting Cod to an out and out CM if we're not going to play him on the wing, given we're short of options atm. Kind of believe the idea he's not being given game time until he signs a new contract but he's probably not signing a new contract because of reduced game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Surely we let Bailey Wright go, he filled a void as cover when we needed it and played well out of position (mostly) but I don’t feel he will ever improve our defence. Would reserve judgement until we see him back playing again. Would like to see him on the right side of Webster....we only ever saw him on left side of Flint or right back (except a couple of games alongside Hegeler and Baker - where he was plenty good enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Would reserve judgement until we see him back playing again. Would like to see him on the right side of Webster....we only ever saw him on left side of Flint or right back (except a couple of games alongside Hegeler and Baker - where he was plenty good enough). Agree, with Kalas probably not around next season, or even after January if he gets sold by Chelsea then Bailey will probably be required, if not starting then at least on the bench. If Bailey proves good enough we could avoid having to recruit in the summer for the sake of a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, hodge said: Would be better converting Cod to an out and out CM if we're not going to play him on the wing, given we're short of options atm. Kind of believe the idea he's not being given game time until he signs a new contract but he's probably not signing a new contract because of reduced game time. COD got form for wanting to see if the grass is greener. https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/callum-odowda-clause-bristol-city-87391 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 hours ago, hodge said: Would be better converting Cod to an out and out CM if we're not going to play him on the wing, given we're short of options atm. Kind of believe the idea he's not being given game time until he signs a new contract but he's probably not signing a new contract because of reduced game time. Eire already did that conversion and in their games I've seen on TV, he has looked the part in CM. Unfortunately with 2 of LJs favourites (or should I say most "trusted") being Pack and Pato - COD is on a loser staying with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just to note, if those players leave then LJ's record on his own transfer and signings is a £5m confirmed loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Fuber said: Just to note, if those players leave then LJ's record on his own transfer and signings is a £5m confirmed loss. How would that compare to other managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, Robbored said: How would that compare to other managers? By far and away the worst Robbered, the only argument you can make is that most managers previous made use of free agents to a much higher degree, whereas LJ has signed a high number of 'backup players who go on not to play or seeming mismanagement of their injuries (Wright, O'Dowda, Watkins, Baker, etc). His old man made a loss on players he signed of around £3m over 6 years with £1m being Maynard and £1m on Dele and Sproule. Millen had around a loss of £1.5m, McInnes broke even due to the profit on Baldock. The best managers in terms of recruitment and players they signed are O'Driscoll (Flint) and Cotts (Kodjia) who mostly made use of free agents. When Cotts spent money we did not make a loss outside of El-Abd who we signed for £300k or thereabouts. He also made good use of older players I.e. Wilbraham, Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, Robbored said: How would that compare to other managers? Enjoy your research https://www.transfermarkt.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Enjoy your research https://www.transfermarkt.com/ Too intricate and complicated to grasp this early in the morning Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 12 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: And let Taylor go on a free ? Jan would be just the time to sell Taylor. £350K, to a club outside Bristol and in the bottom 6 of league 1 would do very nicely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 13, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Problem is they need to be signing deals now, if they are free agents in the summer they can start talking to clubs from the January transfer widown Looking at Daves list above apart from Maenpaa and O'Dowda I'm not sure any others would be that big a loss to the squad, certainly not that hard to replace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 48 minutes ago, Fuber said: By far and away the worst Robbered, the only argument you can make is that most managers previous made use of free agents to a much higher degree, whereas LJ has signed a high number of 'backup players who go on not to play or seeming mismanagement of their injuries (Wright, O'Dowda, Watkins, Baker, etc). His old man made a loss on players he signed of around £3m over 6 years with £1m being Maynard and £1m on Dele and Sproule. Millen had around a loss of £1.5m, McInnes broke even due to the profit on Baldock. The best managers in terms of recruitment and players they signed are O'Driscoll (Flint) and Cotts (Kodjia) who mostly made use of free agents. When Cotts spent money we did not make a loss outside of El-Abd who we signed for £300k or thereabouts. He also made good use of older players I.e. Wilbraham, Elliott. I was referring to other Championship managers - not previous City managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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