ScottishRed Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 15 hours ago, forbespm said: Well rated by Cheltenham fans last season.natural goalscorer with pace. Unbelievable he hasn't been given a chance Its not at all. Huge second leap in standard for the lad in two seasons. Maybe he will make it maybe he wont, still seems a very very odd signing at the price. ( or maybe not ). I think the best thing for him is a loan spell in Div 1 - lets see if he can cut it there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Big C said: I think ideally we should only have an 18 man squad so none of our players are left out and everyone will be happy and no more threads like this one That was pretty much how Cotts worked in 14/15. I quite like that principle, but: you’ve got to have confidence in your u23s that they can step up in the event of injury, suspension or loss of form you can’t send these players out on loan Cotts still had the emergency loan system in place, which LJ hasn’t. That does account for needing a bit of ‘bloat”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 It appears you bet no 2nd chances with LJ!! Imo LJ has not forgiven home for that miss at Bolton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 We actually pay that much? Laughable, desperate, clueless. Take your pick. Our recruitment under Johnson and Co is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Another to be filed in the "didnt work out" folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 15 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: No it isn’t. In your opinion. My opinion,he should have been given a chance,especially with the lack of goals from our forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 18 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: I think you’ll find it’s spelt Mo Eisa.... One man went to Mo - but it wasn't Johnson yesterday. Just like Flint, Johnson said No, mo, no ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 I would like to know what up and coming players feel they have to do to get a chance with Johnson. how many showed promise, never got a real chance and moved on to do ok? I know there were some that Johnson inherited and did not sign, but what about those for the future, are they not good enough because they were signed whether Johnson wanted them or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 I can’t quite work out why a lot of people seem to be calling for Eisa. I’m not sure what he’s done to earn being given a chance. If we were struggling in and around the relegation places then I could see the clamour for him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, petehinton said: What really grates Me is we’ve been pitched this as a ‘one for the future’ shit again. £1.8m was it? He’s a year older than Brownhill, O’Dowda, and Eliasson. Not exactly one for the future if players younger than him are already trusted first team players or big squad players. If he isn’t good enough or trusted to be in the same group as these, then why did we sign him? I thought it was undisclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, forbespm said: In your opinion. My opinion,he should have been given a chance,especially with the lack of goals from our forwards. So you know he's ready to play at this level, you've seen him regularly in training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: I can’t quite work out why a lot of people seem to be calling for Eisa. I’m not sure what he’s done to earn being given a chance. If we were struggling in and around the relegation places then I could see the clamour for him to start. Why would he not be given a chance, Paterson starts nearly every game, looks lively but when the going gets tough he runs away, Dieheiu gets F all service, the players that could and should provide that don’t even start. 1-1 draws and 1-0 wins are still points but we should be achieving so much better. There is almost no connection between midfield and attack, especially when our 20 works so hard at not getting involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, dave36 said: Why would he not be given a chance, Paterson starts nearly every game, looks lively but when the going gets tough he runs away, Dieheiu gets F all service, the players that could and should provide that don’t even start. 1-1 draws and 1-0 wins are still points but we should be achieving so much better. There is almost no connection between midfield and attack, especially when our 20 works so hard at not getting involved Yes.....so how is Eisa (a striker) the answer? I see your thinking as flawed, without doubt our midfield needs improving but if you drop Paterson and put in Eisa, it will weaken the midfield because whatever your view on Paterson, he adds legs to that midfield when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Would much rather see him on the bench than Taylor but that's just me. Think he will be on bench vs Stoke and start vs Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: So you know he's ready to play at this level, you've seen him regularly in training? Of course he hasn’t........Its LJ and his coaches that see him in training and assess whether they feel he’s ready for Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langford Red Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 19 hours ago, David Brent said: He has to play before we sign yet another forward. LJ has to be held accountable for his signings His dealings are a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 19 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: I think he`s going to be loaned out in January and we didn`t want to risk anything today because of that. Suppose he came on for the last five and got whacked by one of their defenders (always a possibility with a side like Rotherham) and the deal had to be shelved. Apologies if this has already been confirmed, but it seems he's off to a 1ST Division side on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said: So you know he's ready to play at this level, you've seen him regularly in training? No.have no clue,but think he deserves a chance to see what he can do.do you know he,s not ready to play at this level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, forbespm said: No.have no clue,but think he deserves a chance to see what he can do.do you know he,s not ready to play at this level? He’s had a couple of cameo appearances and tbf looked a little lost. No surprise it looks like he’ll be going out on loan, He needs the experience of playing higher than L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 To be fair, with Taylor and Wiemann firing on all cylinders ...it's no surprise he doesn't get a look in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, Andy082005 said: To be fair, with Taylor and Wiemann firing on all cylinders ...it's no surprise he doesn't get a look in :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, EmissionImpossible said: Yes.....so how is Eisa (a striker) the answer? I see your thinking as flawed, without doubt our midfield needs improving but if you drop Paterson and put in Eisa, it will weaken the midfield because whatever your view on Paterson, he adds legs to that midfield when needed. Pato adds legs? Do you actually watch him? If there is a space forward and the ball is passed his way he will race on and it’s pretty spectacular, but if he sees a challenge coming no one knows where it will end up as he panics, defending allways loads of space about him which opposition uses because they know he will turn toward the attacker but turn away long before there is any chance of contact, thats probably ok though because his mentor was an 8 who did the same for his last 2 seasons at the gate. Eisa did score goals - that does not mean he is a striker, but scoring is something we don’t do a lot of - due to the fact our tactics don’t suit our only forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, forbespm said: No.have no clue,but think he deserves a chance to see what he can do.do you know he,s not ready to play at this level? I know no more than you, but we're not playing in the suburban league where you can just 'chuck' people in and give them a go. The guy's played about 10 minutes at this level and I trust the people that see him in training day in day out to decide when he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 I think a stint out on loan in league 1 is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: I think you’ll find it’s spelt Mo Eisa.... I think you'll find that if his name actually got on the teamsheet more people would know how to spell it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: In your opinion. My opinion,he should have been given a chance,especially with the lack of goals from our forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Robbored said: He’s had a couple of cameo appearances and tbf looked a little lost. No surprise it looks like he’ll be going out on loan, He needs the experience of playing higher than L2. I've seen this sort of comment a couple of times, and it's a bit unfair . I've had a quick look, and I'm happy to be proved wrong but it looks like his minutes stack up like this. Forest 10 Bolton 1 Plymouth start QPR 1 Millwall 1 You can't count Bolton, QPR and Millwall as he came on at or after the 90th minute. Plymouth , massively changed side and L1 opposition , again unfair to judge. That leave a 10 minute spell at the end of the Forest game, where I thought he looked as though he had a trick, and a little pace. Also to say anyone looked lost in a sub appearance where he barely had chance to get warm is unfair. Not having a go at you, I think LJ said the same. I don't understand why he wasn't sent on loan at the start of the season . if it was because he was cover for Fam, fair enough , but I'm still not sure why he's not got 15/20 minutes at the end of a game. LJ has said he trained well, which was given as why Paterson came back into the team. If he had had a few runs of 20 minutes and had looked out of his depth, again fair enough.. It does seem 6 months wasted, I guess he's had time around the team and LJ, but if he goes on loan does that mean another 'punt' coming in ? How many Diony's can we take ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 I just think he should be given a chance as his scoring record is excellent. Jack marriot is starting to look good,7 goals in 19 games for derby.don't forget he was at Woking 3 years ago and league 1 last season. Eisa has scored 70 goals in 90 non league games and 25 in his first season in the football league. Everyone says we need a goalscorer,perhaps we already.have one but are too afraid to play him. There is only one way to find out.I haven't seen him play at all so I can't comment about him looking a little lost. Was he as bad as diony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Bas savage was better than diony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Eisa is 24 so we should be playing him - if not playing him or giving him a chance basically means another player we shouldn’t have signed in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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