Gillies Downs Leeds Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 I see this affects Gary O'Neil as well. He had contract up until now, which Bolton wanted to renew however they are not allowed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 They should be banned from transfer dealings for a long time. The consequences for not punishing them heavily would be other clubs potentially starting to pull out of done deals. It's also unacceptable how they've seemingly benefitted from a player's services on the pitch for months on the back of a dodgy deal and without paying his wages. It's not fair on clubs doing things properly, especially clubs on tight budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, pnefcok said: They should be banned from transfer dealings for a long time. The consequences for not punishing them heavily would be other clubs potentially starting to pull out of done deals. It's also unacceptable how they've seemingly benefitted from a players services on the pitch for months on the back of a dodgy deal and without paying his wages. It's not fair on club's doing things properly, especially clubs on tight budgets. The deal should be quashed so that the player can be open to offers in January. Equally, Bolton should be fined & deducted points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Chants of "One Christian Doidge" on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: The deal should be quashed so that the player can be open to offers in January. Equally, Bolton should be fined & deducted points. Bolton have been getting away with this sort of stuff for far too long. I recall Scunthorpe's chairman saying they shouldn't have been allowed to go back up to the Championship. Maybe he was bitter about missing out, but seems they still had some huge earners on the books whilst they went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, redsince1994 said: Chants of "One Christian Doidge" on Saturday? Only if we know how to pronounce his surname! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Only if we know how to pronounce his surname! That's me ****** then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: Only if we know how to pronounce his surname! Doy-juh (soft g) I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: The deal should be quashed so that the player can be open to offers in January. Equally, Bolton should be fined & deducted points. Problem there, is that FGR have probably budgeted for the million quid they were expecting this month, as well as not being on the hook for his wages. Not to mention the player who has clearly shown his commitment to the cause by relocating to Bolton. Would like to think that the EFL make an example here and compensate FGR for the difference between what the player achieves pricewise elsewhere, as well as reimburses the wages they have paid for a player who hasn't been available to them. And that the player gets his relocation costs returned to him. It really is a shambles, FGR could well be in a stronger league position if they had their best player turning out for them rather than Bolton. Once everything is all square, the EFL should then try and get the money out of Bolton, assume it was the EFL who allowed this transfer to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Robin101 said: Is anyone able to quickly summarise what has happened to Bolton? Tried to do a few Googles but lots of conflicting info. Seems like they owe lots of people money: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/16101222._quot_If_we_had_to_pay_them_all_right_now__this_moment__we_could_quot____Ken_talks_hard_debt_at_Wanderers/ I suspect it's probably like the Coventry situation with owners who are looking to cash in rather invest in the club. They might as well go into administration as relegation looks highly likely anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Loderingo said: Seems like they owe lots of people money: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/16101222._quot_If_we_had_to_pay_them_all_right_now__this_moment__we_could_quot____Ken_talks_hard_debt_at_Wanderers/ I suspect it's probably like the Coventry situation with owners who are looking to cash in rather invest in the club. They might as well go into administration as relegation looks highly likely anyway. the article is from March 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Only if we know how to pronounce his surname! As it's spelt, I believe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Loderingo said: Seems like they owe lots of people money: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/16101222._quot_If_we_had_to_pay_them_all_right_now__this_moment__we_could_quot____Ken_talks_hard_debt_at_Wanderers/ I suspect it's probably like the Coventry situation with owners who are looking to cash in rather invest in the club. They might as well go into administration as relegation looks highly likely anyway. Wasn't the rules changed a few years back regarding when you receive a points deduction? So if Bolton got minus 10 points but would have still been relegated either way then it will be applied the following season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, pnefcok said: They should be banned from transfer dealings for a long time. The consequences for not punishing them heavily would be other clubs potentially starting to pull out of done deals. It's also unacceptable how they've seemingly benefitted from a player's services on the pitch for months on the back of a dodgy deal and without paying his wages. It's not fair on clubs doing things properly, especially clubs on tight budgets. Axe grinding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Axe grinding? What the **** is wrong with you troll ? PNE fan who is welcome on here by the way, expressing a view shared by just about everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 hours ago, 1bristolcity said: Any utterings from this man (FGR) I would be very suspicious of. In this instance I think he’s spot on. About time someone said it, and good on him for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 hours ago, 1960maaan said: The only points affected would be Boltons, even then it depends when they go into Admin. As long as they finish the season any points won from them should be ok.If they can't finish the season , completely disappear then points may be forfeit . I would be amazed if the League didn't step in to help them complete the season now it's started. Not sure of the cut off, but if the Admin is done early any points deducted from Bolton would be this year. If they leave it late, they can be deducted from next year, supposing they can start that season. Think NTTDS May have meant go bust completely, in which case all their results, and the points other teams have gained, are wiped out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 hours ago, steveybadger said: Not sure the people employed by the club would be happier, obviously assuming they will carry on being paid. Exactly, the club is becoming unsalvageable. Most non playing staff have seen this before and must be used to the idea their jobs are on the line again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Never to the dark side Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 The protest is planned for two weeks time kick off 8pm When they are home to WBA live on Sky. Don't think the EFL will be very pleased to see any pictures of the protest prior to the match kicking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 I like FGR but not Dale Vince as I don't like those that force their ideas on others. We all have a right to make our own choice. In saying that Vince is 100% correct in calling out the Bolton owner in this fiasco. When any business goes broke it has a domino effect for others who are owed money. Bolton going under could be the death knell for many small businesses and other football clubs who they owe money to. The EFL need to act and act fast in situations like this. You have employees on tenterhooks about whether they will be paid and players who have made commitments to move to the area on empty promises who still need to pay their own bills. I doubt the Bolton owner has too many worries about how he will pay his mortgage as I doubt he has one. The cancer that is in football these days is going to kill it off for all of us. I don't want to be a fan of one of maybe 6 clubs that can afford to be in some sort of European Super League. I want to support "my club" Bristol City in a sustainable competition and I thank god we have the owner we have in SL. The money washing around in football is obscene and clubs like Bolton try to compete but just can't sustain survival. Many others will follow, mark my words. FFS let the game return to some sort of sustainable normality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, BigTone said: I like FGR but not Dale Vince as I don't like those that force their ideas on others. We all have a right to make our own choice. So where's my choice of a vegan pasty, an organic cola or a plastic free water at Ashton Gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, italian dave said: So where's my choice of a vegan pasty, an organic cola or a plastic free water at Ashton Gate? Why ask me, I'm not your Mum ? Take it up with the club. You have a voice and an opinion so express it to those concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Ken Anderson.....sort him out EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 22 hours ago, TammyAB said: Gutted for the lad Doidge if he’s already bought a house up north I’ve been to Bolton. Blessing in disguise for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said: I’ve been to Bolton. Blessing in disguise for him. Can't be worse than Blackburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just read that Ken Anderson is coming to Ashton Gate Saturday. I honestly hope the club makes a stand and doesn’t let him into corporate. Let him stand with the real hardcore fans of the club so he can truly understand how he’s destroying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Ken Anderson.....sort him out EFL. Wonder if Ken knows his fiduciary duties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just seen on twitter that Dale Vince has invited Bolton fans down to watch FGR v Bury and if they wear their Bolton shirt they get a free pint. They also setting up a limited edition shirt to raise money for the Bolton Supporters Trust. As the first reply puts it: "The chairman of a club screwed over by Bolton is now doing more to help Bolton than their own chairman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, Selred said: Just read that Ken Anderson is coming to Ashton Gate Saturday. I honestly hope the club makes a stand and doesn’t let him into corporate. Let him stand with the real hardcore fans of the club so he can truly understand how he’s destroying them. That'll be twice then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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