BobBobSuperBob Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 As title Moyes favourite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wonder if Crouch will ever manage them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I doubt many will have sympathy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Old boy managerial merry-go-round will swing back into action then... Moyes, Allerdyce and co back in the ring then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Seeing as Stokes finest hour was with Tiny in charge, someone like him, Big Sam, Neil Harris etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 No great surprise he got sacked- but that aside, had a feeling him and Stoke wouldn't be quite the hit the media were predicting. His reactive style with players such as Butland, Martins Indi, Woods, Allen, Afobe at this level to name 5- plus frozen out good ones like Bauer and Bojan- was never likely to be a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Job for Cotts? Job for Dopey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Stoke paid Derby £2m compensation when they appointed Rowett and gave him a three year contract. He lasted 8 months. What a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Super said: I doubt many will have sympathy for him. absolutely not, after he seemingly ditched Derby to move to Stoke because they had a bigger budget, just rewards me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Were brum 7/8th in league when they gave him the Spanish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Super said: Job for Cotts? Job for Dopey? Cotts has already managed Stoke. They love him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Sadly inevitable. I get why managers fancy the challenge but you do feel that Rowett, like Grayson at Sunderland and Heckingbottom at Leeds, was on a hiding to nothing from the start in the wrong environment and has done nothing but devalue his reputation. I think, as so often, it highlights that it is about getting the right manager for the right club. I think far too often clubs draw up managerial wishlists, or managers go for jobs, without really thinking about the skills they need. Not all football clubs are the same and not all managers are right for all managerial jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 BBC coverage: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46794337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Would anyone still want him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Super said: Would anyone still want him here? One of the very, very few I'd accept as an improvement on LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: One of the very, very few I'd accept as an improvement on LJ. Really? What’s he done, or got that LJ doesn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I mean it's somewhat of an achievement to have that stoke team where they are and not higher.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: One of the very, very few I'd accept as an improvement on LJ. Wow, surely not. The guy is an absolute mercenary, which was suspected but continues to be proven. He lapped up the sympathy after Birmingham seemingly canned him unfairly for a 'big name' but what's not so well known is that they looked elsewhere because he was looking for an outrageous release clause to speak to other clubs whenever he liked. Grass is always going to be greener to him and he's done a great job at hyping himself up to be something he really isn't and proven nothing when given the chance. Doubt he will get another chance at this level for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: One of the very, very few I'd accept as an improvement on LJ. Lives more off of reputation, but when you look at what he has achieved in the game it is very little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, Super said: Would anyone still want him here? He has a good CV although, when it comes down to it, arguably no more so than LJ. He has a reputation as a bit of a mercenary, which may or may not be fair, but he has a general record a promising manager he gets teams playing well but needs some promotions or similar in order to prove is potential. But the key point is, as with any manager, we don't know. It's easy to come up with a list of names who might be a good manager here but it comes down to how well a manager gets on with the board, how well they fit in with the managerial structure, how they are at managing a team of our size and resources, whether they can get the best out the players etc. I think far too often people look at what managers have done at other clubs without thinking about the fact that doesn't always translate. Look at someone like Warnock for example. He's doing a great job at Cardiff but was a disaster in his second spell at Palace and a fish out of water at Leeds. Not all managers fit all clubs. I actually think Rowett might be a reasonable fit here but, unless you sat down and interviewed him for the job, you'd never really know. What I am sure on is he needs to plan is next move carefully and choose a club where he can have a real impact. A second poor spell and his reputation will be in tatters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbafc Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, archie andrews said: Were brum 7/8th in league when they gave him the Spanish? Possibly 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wouldn't touch Rowett with a barge pole, even if he did well with us he'd be angling himself for a bigger move as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, phantom said: Lives more off of reputation, but when you look at what he has achieved in the game it is very little Thought he did well at Burton, Birmingham. Derby alright with an aging side but reactive football. Works in certain circs that kind of game plan. Put him in a Stoke with some of the best players outside PL (actually would query whether on paper they should have gone down last year) and an expectation to take the initiative and things can unravel rather quickly. @Leveller Seems to have been the case quite often with us down the years- in that losing to us seems to have been the final straw! Reckon he'll be fine because of his considerable overachievement to this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 So, losing to Bristol City was enough to get Rowett sacked. I wonder how Wagner is feeling right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Leveller said: So, losing to Bristol City was enough to get Rowett sacked. I wonder how Wagner is feeling right now. Isewater Enterprises have recently received a big order for squeaky bum oil from Huddersfield, coincidence ? I don’t think so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 At Stoke win percentage 31% and points per game average of 1.34 with everything at his disposal there and the squad he had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Stoke paid Derby £2m compensation when they appointed Rowett and gave him a three year contract. He lasted 8 months. What a waste of money. Fantastic for Rowett. Being on the managerial roundabout and regularly getting sacked with compensation is a nice little earner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Spent £50m this summer and people complain at how much LJ spends, next highest spenders being Forest at just over £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Stoke will pick up very quickly if they make the right appointment, they've got a very strong squad. I'm glad we've already played them twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, hodge said: Spent £50m this summer and people complain at how much LJ spends, next highest spenders being Forest at just over £20m And their wage bill is 3x ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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