BessexRED Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 John Percy saying Johnson’s a serious candidate and has admirers on the Stoke board. McInnes and Moyes also in the running. How about they take Johnson, we bring Moyes home... everyone’s a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Apart from the fact I don't think Moyes would succeed either. Anyways I don't think LJ would go to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 LJ has a very ideal setup for a manager right here, he would be silly to go somewhere else and have to start all over again with no guarantees he would be stuck by if things went pear-shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's a sideways step. Better the devil you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, BessexRED said: John Percy saying Johnson’s a serious candidate and has admirers on the Stoke board. McInnes and Moyes also in the running. How about they take Johnson, we bring Moyes home... everyone’s a winner. Moyes really? I’m not an LJ lover but Moyes is way past his best, if he ever had a best, got Preston promoted once, and treaded water at Everton for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Moyes really? I’m not an LJ lover but Moyes is way past his best, if he ever had a best, got Preston promoted once, and treaded water at Everton for years I mean his Everton performance was very good considering to what they were when he took over, but since it just seems to be an indication football has moved on from his style of management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Moyes really? I’m not an LJ lover but Moyes is way past his best, if he ever had a best, got Preston promoted once, and treaded water at Everton for years “Treaded water” at Everton are you on a wind up? I’d love Moyes here, think he’s nailed on for Stoke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, BessexRED said: “Treaded water” at Everton are you on a wind up? I’d love Moyes here, think he’s nailed on for Stoke though. What did he do at Everton really? He was there 11 years! He Didn’t win anything, got a few top 4’s, big deal, under achieved IMO. His last success was Preston promoted nearly 20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Definitely not a sideways move. Taking over from a hated manager, stock of the team is very low, squad full of quality, only way is up for anyone taking them on. They can also afford to pay very good wages and have chute payments for 2 more seasons. I think if they come calling with the right deal he will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Tinmans Love Child said: What did he do at Everton really? He was there 11 years! He Didn’t win anything, got a few top 4’s, big deal, under achieved IMO. His last success was Preston promoted nearly 20 years ago “A few top 4s, big deal” jesus wept... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: What did he do at Everton really? He was there 11 years! He Didn’t win anything, got a few top 4’s, big deal, under achieved IMO. His last success was Preston promoted nearly 20 years ago Everton were lingering just above the relegation spots before he took over, given the amount he spent for the majority of his time there he did a great job having them consistently top half and fighting for european spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, BessexRED said: “A few top 4s, big deal” jesus wept... Actually got in Champs League qualifying once and bombed out, he underachieved at such a big club IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: What did he do at Everton really? He was there 11 years! He Didn’t win anything, got a few top 4’s, big deal, under achieved IMO. His last success was Preston promoted nearly 20 years ago Got one top 4, however think he had an impressive body of work there over his 11 years! Lost to a very good Villarreal side however, possibly unlucky to draw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Actually got in Champs League qualifying once and bombed out, he underachieved at such a big club IMO Taking a club from relegation fights to European contention is underachieving? Everton have hardly matched their time under him since. Certainly not with any consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, BessexRED said: “Treaded water” at Everton are you on a wind up? I’d love Moyes here, think he’s nailed on for Stoke though. Ha ha lee johnson or David moyes do me a favour top of the tree an bottom lets have moyes any day of the week hes forgot more than johnson will ever know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Definitely not a sideways move. Taking over from a hated manager, stock of the team is very low, squad full of quality, only way is up for anyone taking them on. They can also afford to pay very good wages and have chute payments for 2 more seasons. I think if they come calling with the right deal he will go. I hope you're wrong... but it's a persuasive argument. On the other hand, he's got a good set-up here, a connection to the club, an accademy that's working well and exciting players coming through. And a degree of security that he wouldn't have at Stoke: Bristol City - 11th - Manager secure. Stoke - 14th - Manager sacked. I'm crossing my fingers we see a statement in the next day or two in which he says he's sticking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Everton league positions 15th 17th 14th 13th 16th 15th --Moyes takes over-- 7th 17th 4th 11th 6th 5th 5th 8th 7th 7th 6th 5th. Nah he did a terrible job there.... Don't want him here but you can't say he did badly at Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Actually got in Champs League qualifying once and bombed out, he underachieved at such a big club IMO Who was he up against all those years at Everton, and do you not consider that they were perhaps bigger and with much more resources than Everton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Actually got in Champs League qualifying once and bombed out, he underachieved at such a big club IMO That's very funny. He frequently had a tiny budget and took Everton from relegation wilderness to a comfortable top half team. They're still "a big club" because he saved them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: What did he do at Everton really? He was there 11 years! He Didn’t win anything, got a few top 4’s, big deal, under achieved IMO. His last success was Preston promoted nearly 20 years ago Absolutely. And to prove your point, ever since he's left Everton have been consistently finishing in the top 6 and challenging for the top 4. Oh, wait. How anybody can say that his time at Everton wasn't a success is beyond me. I'd certainly welcome a manager of his calibre with open arms the next time we have a vacancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yellow&Blue&Red said: I hope you're wrong... but it's a persuasive argument. On the other hand, he's got a good set-up here, a connection to the club, an accademy that's working well and exciting players coming through. And a degree of security that he wouldn't have at Stoke: Bristol City - 11th - Manager with a young squad and mid championship budget secure. Stoke - 14th - Manager with a Premiership squad and parachute payments sacked. I'm crossing my fingers we see a statement in the next day or two in which he says he's sticking here. Just to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Got one top 4, however think he had an impressive body of work there over his 11 years! Lost to a very good Villarreal side however, possibly unlucky to draw them. Same team that got to the Semis the following year? (Might have even been that same year actually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not a chance he goes. He knows which side his bread is buttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow&Blue&Red Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Just to be fair Yep - quite possible he'll go. I can see the arguments for that. All I'm saying is there are real arguments for him to stay. And that I hope he does! Seems like only yesterday there was a thread saying LJ never gets linked with "better" jobs.... oh wait - it was yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, hodge said: Everton league positions 15th 17th 14th 13th 16th 15th --Moyes takes over-- 7th 17th 4th 11th 6th 5th 5th 8th 7th 7th 6th 5th. Nah he did a terrible job there.... Don't want him here but you can't say he did badly at Everton Everton are a huge club, he won nothing in 11 years, not even a league cup, 1 top 4 finish in 11 years, is that success for a club that big? It might be for us but no way is that good enough for Everton. They may have been worse before he came in and worse after, but so what, doesn’t mean he was some kind of genius. The game is gone if we celebrate mediocrity like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Loon plage said: I think if they come calling with the right deal he will go. Can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said: Absolutely. And to prove your point, ever since he's left Everton have been consistently finishing in the top 6 and challenging for the top 4. Oh, wait. How anybody can say that his time at Everton wasn't a success is beyond me. I'd certainly welcome a manager of his calibre with open arms the next time we have a vacancy. The calibre of a manager who has won nothing apart from League 1 promotion (so long ago it probably wasn’t called League 1 then) in his whole time as manager? Crazy talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Moyes is yesterday’s man - would much rather LJ but realise this is a personal opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Everton are a huge club, he won nothing in 11 years, not even a league cup, 1 top 4 finish in 11 years, is that success for a club that big? It might be for us but no way is that good enough for Everton. They may have been worse before he came in and worse after, but so what, doesn’t mean he was some kind of genius. The game is gone if we celebrate mediocrity like that. Sorry mate but you're talking absolute nonsense in this thread. Big club yes. Poor achievements there by Moyes? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Ain’t gonna happen. He still has plenty of years to match Alan Dicks feat of 9 seasons to reach the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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