sh1t_ref_again Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 According to Burdanaces in a news story from yesterday:- Bolton Wanderers have been served with two further winding-up petitions, as the club's ongoing financial struggle continues to bite. The petitions, served by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) and Stellar Football Limited, were filed on Monday and Tuesday, respectively. Wanderers have battled against HMRC on numerous occasions in recent years, with the majority of cases dismissed following the successful payment of PAYE and VAT invoices, although their latest battle appears to have come in the form of a sports consultancy and agency firm. The Stellar Group, which boasts an impressive list of stars across the footballing globe, list former Bolton players Rob Holding, Gary Madine and Tim Ream amongst their clients, although the nature of any outstanding debts remain unclear at this moment in time. It has been a difficult start to 2019 for senior staff at the University of Bolton Stadium, as just last week stock from club superstore Bolton Central was reclaimed by Euro Sport. Does not sound good for them on the back of the FGR situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Can't wait for his next ramblings - go on Ken, have a glass of sherry and get that quill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Burdanaces What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 burndemlaces. I often wondered why slip ons didn't catch on with football boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 It does seem rather too easy to jump upon the bandwagon as painting him as being suddenly as bad as the Oystons. The Baronesses look like opportunist politicians doing what opportunist politicians do. https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/ Dale Vince is a bit of a berk anyway IMHO so I'm not going to automatically accept his version of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitchurch1966 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 They don't have Eddie Davies to put his hand in his pocket anymore so they might really be deep in the brown stuff this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: It does seem rather too easy to jump upon the bandwagon as painting him as being suddenly as bad as the Oystons. The Baronesses look like opportunist politicians doing what opportunist politicians do. https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/ Dale Vince is a bit of a berk anyway IMHO so I'm not going to automatically accept his version of events. Are you posting his crazed ramblings as a reasonable rebuttal of the accusations?! He sounds like Alan Partridge on crack ffs. And you don't have to belive Dale Vince, you can believe HMRC, Stellar Football Limited, the Bolton Evening News journalists he's banned for telling the truth, or indeed Anderson's own business history given he was banned from being a director for 8 years in 2005 after being caught stealing from his own companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Stortz said: Are you posting his crazed ramblings as a reasonable rebuttal of the accusations?! He sounds like Alan Partridge on crack ffs. And you don't have to belive Dale Vince, you can believe HMRC, Stellar Football Limited, the Bolton Evening News journalists he's banned for telling the truth, or indeed Anderson's own business history given he was banned from being a director for 8 years in 2005 after being caught stealing from his own companies. That last bit I didn't know; that should surely debar him from owning the club in the first place under the "fit and proper" test that the FL allegedly applies. It does make you wonder what the criteria of this test are. Given that additional knowledge I will cease to give credence to his ramblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcshorey Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, Swede said: burndemlaces. I often wondered why slip ons didn't catch on with football boots. I think you'll find they have.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: That last bit I didn't know; that should surely debar him from owning the club in the first place under the "fit and proper" test that the FL allegedly applies. It does make you wonder what the criteria of this test are. Given that additional knowledge I will cease to give credence to his ramblings. Just asked my wife (A Company Secretary) apparently once your disqualification period is up there is nothing to stop you taking on similar roles. There is no legal method of barring someone of doing so, although I suppose the FL could apply their own criteria, I would imagine this would be challenged in court though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: That last bit I didn't know; that should surely debar him from owning the club in the first place under the "fit and proper" test that the FL allegedly applies. It does make you wonder what the criteria of this test are. Given that additional knowledge I will cease to give credence to his ramblings. You would think wouldn't you, but no; you are only prevented from owning a club during the period of disqualification as @Port Said Red says: https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-3---owners-and-directors-test/ There were probably loads of the dodgy buggers in the same situation when the rules were being drawn up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said: That last bit I didn't know; that should surely debar him from owning the club in the first place under the "fit and proper" test that the FL allegedly applies. It does make you wonder what the criteria of this test are. Given that additional knowledge I will cease to give credence to his ramblings. For a fuller picture see: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/09/bolton-ken-anderson-efl-ownership-forest-green-christian-doidge Note too that the EFL has adopted a new policy on serious misconduct but has yet to come up with any actual rules and procedures. I suspect there are more than a few club Directors who would rather they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, bcfcshorey said: I think you'll find they have.. . That reminds me, I must get a coat of dubbin on my boots to keep them in tip top condition and good for another 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said: According to Burdanaces in a news story from yesterday:- Bolton Wanderers have been served with two further winding-up petitions, as the club's ongoing financial struggle continues to bite. The petitions, served by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) and Stellar Football Limited, were filed on Monday and Tuesday, respectively. Wanderers have battled against HMRC on numerous occasions in recent years, with the majority of cases dismissed following the successful payment of PAYE and VAT invoices, although their latest battle appears to have come in the form of a sports consultancy and agency firm. The Stellar Group, which boasts an impressive list of stars across the footballing globe, list former Bolton players Rob Holding, Gary Madine and Tim Ream amongst their clients, although the nature of any outstanding debts remain unclear at this moment in time. It has been a difficult start to 2019 for senior staff at the University of Bolton Stadium, as just last week stock from club superstore Bolton Central was reclaimed by Euro Sport. Oddly enough, nothing about this being discussed on the Bolton forum. Do the fans not know, or is censorship applied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, 22A said: Oddly enough, nothing about this being discussed on the Bolton forum. Do the fans not know, or is censorship applied? Try boltonnuts.co.uk for a heated debate on whether Ken is a charlatan or someone who got out of his depth due to a partner not introducing promised funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 11, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 After composing two substantial and acerbic web columns in the last two days, Anderson instructed staff to send out a mail-shot to fans earlier this evening. The email – seen by The Bolton News – included three anonymous messages of support for the Bolton chairman, who has engaged in a public spat with his Forest Green counterpart Dale Vince over the collapsed transfer of striker Christian Doidge. It also lists nine points, addressing what he termed “recent fiction” in the press, which include an admission he paid himself promotion bonuses as part of the £525,000 consultancy fee detailed in the club’s previous set of financial accounts, published in June 2017. In 2017, players received bonus payments late after their promotion to the Championship from League One and in 2018 the squad went on strike, forcing the postponement of a pre-season friendly against St Mirren because of a similar problem, which eventually required mediation from the PFA. Coaching staff, including manager Phil Parkinson, had still not received their bonuses in November, when monthly salaries were also paid a fortnight late. The letter read… In case you hadn’t seen them, I wanted to ensure that you have the opportunity of reading my latest set of web notes. “Since they were published on the website, I have received numerous messages of support from fans and people involved within the game. “One supporter wrote: ‘(I am) ignoring all the rubbish in the press regarding our club and chairman, I would like to thank you for your continued good work. As a businessman you obviously do not suffer fools gladly.’ “Another person said: ‘Thank you for standing up to that individual Vince. Put me down for a T-shirt. I can honestly say the trotters now have six more supporters. “A former employee of Vince added: ‘I’d just like to say that I’m fully in support of what Ken is saying and from experience with working for ecotricity and having been in meetings with Dale, I’d fully agree with what Ken is saying about Dale and his egotistical ways. It’s a real kick in the teeth to many when the day after over 100 employees were made redundant at Ecotricity last summer (FGR) then signed George Williams the next day!” As I have mentioned in the past, a great deal of what is written in the local and national press is factually incorrect and for that reason alone, I thought I would correct some of the recent fiction. As no doubt, you have noticed that to protect themselves they often say a source or an insider. If that is the case they need to review their sources and insiders (sic) credibility. 1) Dean and I did not pay £1 for the club. We paid £1 plus the debts which as everyone knows were substantial. 2) Dean and I did not take out a £4.4m loan to cover tax debts. 3) I did not pay £150,000 for my shares, it was substantially more than that. 4) The Club did not pay me consultancy fees of £525,000 in 2017. This spanned 2016 and 2017 and included promotion bonuses. 5) As far as I am aware no players have asked for a transfer. Furthermore, we have not received any offers for players. 6) The PFA did not pay the November player salaries. 7) No players have been signed without the manager’s approval. The manager decides who we sign not me. We did not owe £300,000 to Heathcotes/SCC Catering in December and they did not issue a writ. 9) I am not resident in Switzerland, I am a Monaco resident. Anderson also included, in full, his web-notes published on the official website on Wednesday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 hours ago, downendcity said: That reminds me, I must get a coat of dubbin on my boots to keep them in tip top condition and good for another 50 years. They look like they were built at Clydebank, for the Grand Fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: They look like they were built at Clydebank, for the Grand Fleet. Are they to scale? Perhaps they used to be Elton's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Just asked my wife (A Company Secretary) apparently once your disqualification period is up there is nothing to stop you taking on similar roles. There is no legal method of barring someone of doing so, although I suppose the FL could apply their own criteria, I would imagine this would be challenged in court though. I’m not sure that a court challenge would succeed. The civil courts have historically been reluctant to involve themselves in football, being content to let the sports authorities regulate themselves. I wonder what the arguments would be. Being barred from owning a football club could hardly be described as a restraint of trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I’m not sure that a court challenge would succeed. The civil courts have historically been reluctant to involve themselves in football, being content to let the sports authorities regulate themselves. I wonder what the arguments would be. Being barred from owning a football club could hardly be described as a restraint of trade. I did think of that, but thought the argument could be from the club side if there was no other preferred buyer, but it's moot point anyway. The FL really need to get tougher on these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: They look like they were built at Clydebank, for the Grand Fleet. Puma Dreadnoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 20 hours ago, downendcity said: That reminds me, I must get a coat of dubbin on my boots to keep them in tip top condition and good for another 50 years. Flash git with yer green laces en all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 10/01/2019 at 13:34, Eddie Hitler said: It does seem rather too easy to jump upon the bandwagon as painting him as being suddenly as bad as the Oystons. The Baronesses look like opportunist politicians doing what opportunist politicians do. https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/ Dale Vince is a bit of a berk anyway IMHO so I'm not going to automatically accept his version of events. Wasn't Lee Marvin in that film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, phantom said: I am not resident in Switzerland, I am a Monaco resident On his Companies House listing as a director of BOLTON WANDERERS FOOTBALL & ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED it literally says his country of residence is Switzerland. He's either lying here or he lied to the registrar of companies. State of this man. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00043026/officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: On his Companies House listing as a director of BOLTON WANDERERS FOOTBALL & ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED it literally says his country of residence is Switzerland. He's either lying here or he lied to the registrar of companies. State of this man. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00043026/officers I think the term cockwomble was made for Ken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Flash git with yer green laces en all . Nailed in studs too 6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: On his Companies House listing as a director of BOLTON WANDERERS FOOTBALL & ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED it literally says his country of residence is Switzerland. He's either lying here or he lied to the registrar of companies. State of this man. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00043026/officers He might have failed GCSE geography ........ ....as well as maths!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I think the term cockwomble was made for Ken! Probably an old address. You don't have to give your home address now - albeit, your annual return should correct inaccuracies. Either way, *ckin* tax dodger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Probably an old address. You don't have to give your home address now - albeit, your annual return should correct inaccuracies. Either way, *ckin* tax dodger! The latest CS is from November 2018. So he either did a very stressful move over Christmas or his Company, of which he is the sole director, has filed an erroneous CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: The latest CS is from November 2018. So he either did a very stressful move over Christmas or his Company, of which he is the sole director, has filed an erroneous CS. I did a few stressful moves over Christmas. Mostly bowel related. Bacchanalian/other over indulgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Probably an old address. You don't have to give your home address now - albeit, your annual return should correct inaccuracies. Either way, *ckin* tax dodger! Correct, my address at CH is also Lytham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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