Dullmoan Tone Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think he deserves his own thread - this guy is absolute class. I know LK is good, but it's almost criminal that he doesn't start. I thought he was completely un-phased no matter where he received the ball - he always manages the simple (mostly forward) pass and his running gives options on the left. We need to enjoy this lad while he's here, or start playing him or he won't sign. I think he is good enough that in a few years we could say - Joe who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I can't believe how close he keeps the ball at his feet as he dribbles around players... anyone remember the Harry Enifield Arsenal sketch where they super glued the ball to that feet......this guy personifies this skill! His first touch is great no matter where it comes at him. Always brings it down and then takes a moment to make up his mind then he's explosive.....just goes #fearless Well done for finding this gem! Hopefully we can turn a loan into a signing in the summer. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 need to sign him on a perm deal. if not someone else will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: I think he deserves his own thread - this guy is absolute class. I know LK is good, but it's almost criminal that he doesn't start. I thought he was completely un-phased no matter where he received the ball - he always manages the simple (mostly forward) pass and his running gives options on the left. We need to enjoy this lad while he's here, or start playing him or he won't sign. I think he is good enough that in a few years we could say - Joe who? I think in matches where we are going to dominate possession, like today, Jay should be starting ahead of Kelly for all the reasons you give. However, when we are going to have to do a lot of defending then perhaps Kelly is the stronger option - lets not forget he kept Tom Ince quiet just the other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Honestly, we are getting a better deal if we get Dasilva, sell LK, and make a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 He is a real talent. Top botch first touch. One example late on where he took down a high ball in front if Section 82. A poor touch and the full-back launches him into Section 82. No problem for Jay. Notice how many times he gets his body into position to receive the ball so that he can either control it or open up his body and lay it first time inside. It’s an area Kelly needs to work on. You might also notice that our midfielders make themselves available for the first time pass, because they know it might come. Not dissing Kelly because he has done so well this season, but he doesn’t get those runners because he isn’t as confident to play first time. Today there were two or three occasions where we sprung forward from LB area reminiscent of the way we carved out Bryan’s goal v Man Utd. A lot to like, and think we might see a bit more horses for courses at LB as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Wouldn't surprise me if he already knows that Kelly will go in the summer and has been told that he'll be first choice next season if he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Wouldn't surprise me if he already knows that Kelly will go in the summer and has been told that he'll be first choice next season if he signs. Suspect that is the scenario we are trying to cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, nickolas said: Honestly, we are getting a better deal if we get Dasilva, sell LK, and make a profit. LK will be a better centre half than he will a left back mind Would be nice to see LK develop into a CB here but if I could get good money for him (As he will be off at some point soonish anyway) Id invest it in Kalas and DaSilva if I could get them here Kalas makes others look even better IMHO i can honestly see us having a punt at all 3 (KP the third) in the summer Remember Chelsea will need to start offloading some of their 90 odd players due to loan limitations next season There will be some value to be had IMHO , wages will be the key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: He is a real talent. Top botch first touch. One example late on where he took down a high ball in front if Section 82. A poor touch and the full-back launches him into Section 82. No problem for Jay. Notice how many times he gets his body into position to receive the ball so that he can either control it or open up his body and lay it first time inside. It’s an area Kelly needs to work on. You might also notice that our midfielders make themselves available for the first time pass, because they know it might come. Not dissing Kelly because he has done so well this season, but he doesn’t get those runners because he isn’t as confident to play first time. Today there were two or three occasions where we sprung forward from LB area reminiscent of the way we carved out Bryan’s goal v Man Utd. A lot to like, and think we might see a bit more horses for courses at LB as the season goes on. Completely agree - also he is so much stronger on the ball than he should be given his stature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Custard Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 In the system we are playing with pushed up full backs he should be starting over LK every time. He can use both feet, quick and can dribble through defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hampshire reds said: need to sign him on a perm deal. if not someone else will We have an option with Chelsea with a pre-agreed fee so I'm sure we'll at least activate it to talk to Jay, then it'll be down to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Completely agree - also he is so much stronger on the ball than he should be given his stature I thought size may be a real issue but the control and body shape etc that Dave Fevs so nicely set out and your observation (Which , besides his close control is what has struck me ) sums up why it isn’t an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Personally, I would like to see JD as a left-sided midfielder in the future as I'm not entirely convinced of the defensive side of his game yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I thought size may be a real issue but the control and body shape etc that Dave Fevs so nicely set out and your observation (Which , besides his close control is what has struck me ) sums up why it isn’t an issue He’s only about 5’6”, but from the few games i’ve seen he has a good leap on him (digressing, anyone see how high Fam got to chest a ball in the first half....woah!!). He did get Donaldson peeling onto him late in the game, so tactically something LJ (and Webster in particular) will need to watch out for, or it will be a mis-match for diags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 So much better than Kelly imo! Sorry if that upsets a few :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: So much better than Kelly imo! Sorry if that upsets a few Interesting..... So , if you were a Prem Manager and offered Kelly or DaSilva, only one You'd choose DaSilva ? Interesting - I’d take Kelly every time, for his long term potential Be interesting who others would take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Have to agree. Great debut for Kasey, but for me Da Silva changed the game. He instantly became another offensive outlet, which seemed to be the pendulum swing that enabled us to create pockets behind their back four. It seems more and more evident to me that city play very good football with attacking fullbacks. A static back four doesn't seem to do anything for us, so let's hope LJ pursues this with future games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I'd play him instead of O'Dowda and keep Kelly in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Well, for sure after today’s LK mistake Jay deserves to be first choice for the next few games. His control is superb to watch. Really gifted footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Jay for home games, Kelly for away games....simples!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Nibor said: I'd play him instead of O'Dowda and keep Kelly in the side. That would resemble somewhat, our excellent shape last season during our period of most controlled period. We had a Magnússon-Bryan left side- could change to a Kelly-Da Silva left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thought he was brilliant today. His neat one touch pass and move in tight situations were perfection. I love Kelly but possibly too calm at times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Interesting..... So , if you were a Prem Manager and offered Kelly or DaSilva, only one You'd choose DaSilva ? Interesting - I’d take Kelly every time, for his long term potential Be interesting who others would take I don’t think it’s a black and white choice. They have different games. Versus Stoke, Kelly v Ince allowed Lloyd to show up his defensive skills. Today with a condensed defence against him and a bit of time on the ball, it didn’t show up his strengths. I was disappointed we didn’t see him drive into those gaps....he does have that. I wonder if some of it is who’s in front of him. I don’t think COD gives Lloyd the same angles. I thought Lloyd was striking up a good understanding with Eliasson until 3/4 games ago. I think he’ll mature into a Left Sided CB, quicker than we think. He is an athlete, and is getting stronger all the time. I don’t think it will be at Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think it’s a black and white choice. They have different games. Versus Stoke, Kelly v Ince allowed Lloyd to show up his defensive skills. Today with a condensed defence against him and a bit of time on the ball, it didn’t show up his strengths. I was disappointed we didn’t see him drive into those gaps....he does have that. I wonder if some of it is who’s in front of him. I don’t think COD gives Lloyd the same angles. I thought Lloyd was striking up a good understanding with Eliasson until 3/4 games ago. I think he’ll mature into a Left Sided CB, quicker than we think. He is an athlete, and is getting stronger all the time. I don’t think it will be at Bristol City. It is for this question you are manager of a mid table prem side - Who you having ? No fence sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: It is for this question you are manager of a mid table prem side - Who you having ? No fence sitting What do I need? A left back or a centre back? Am I a footballing side or a direct side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What do I need? A left back or a centre back? Am I a footballing side or a direct side? Awkward sod Anything you want to be Hes the first piece in your new side..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: It is for this question you are manager of a mid table prem side - Who you having ? No fence sitting Jay at left back, Kelly at centre back....simples!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 In theory , if we sold kelly for £15 million , could we say buy kalas and de Silva for the above price ? Thst way strengthening the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Awkward sod Anything you want to be Hes the first piece in your new side..... Eros Pisano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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