Kezman Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Getting into bed with Chelsea is now rearing its ugly head. Don't like this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Kezman said: Getting into bed with Chelsea is now rearing its ugly head. Don't like this at all. Don't see anything wrong with it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Rudolf will be along in a min.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIAN WILSON Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, ReggyRed said: Rather have the likes of Tammy, Palmer, da Silva and Kalas down here and we once every few seasons lose a player with potential but has only ever played in league 2. Your answer totally echoes my thoughts, yep send back the 3 loans (and forget that Tammy ever existed) and keep AS on a few hundred quid a week and expect him to do the business on a regular basis in the Championship - No, it ain't going to happen. This is good (IMHO) business for all concerned and the very best of luck to the lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Kezman said: Getting into bed with Chelsea is now rearing its ugly head. Don't like this at all. Why? Surely our relationship with Chelsea is a win-win for all concerened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Why? Surely our relationship with Chelsea is a win-win for all concerened An 80s football purist might not like it, but in modern football it's a link that could help us no end in the quest for Premier League football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, BRIAN WILSON said: Your answer totally echoes my thoughts, yep send back the 3 loans (and forget that Tammy ever existed) and keep AS on a few hundred quid a week and expect him to do the business on a regular basis in the Championship - No, it ain't going to happen. This is good (IMHO) business for all concerned and the very best of luck to the lad Agree I hope the delay is the club discussing the like of Kalas, Da Silva & Palmer on perms or loans for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, wood_red said: Rudolf will be along in a min.... Don't want him rearing his ugly head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jonlee6956 said: You didn't say he was being recalled though. You said you 'wouldn't be surprised' if he got recalled. So you were speculating.. O.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Kezman said: Getting into bed with Chelsea is now rearing its ugly head. Don't like this at all. This has got nothing to do with getting into bed with Chelsea. They have seen a player they want and are going to sign him. You expect them to hold off as we have a bit of a relationship? Naive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, wood_red said: Rudolf will be along in a min.... Had him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcherryberry Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 18 months left of his contract, won’t sign a new deal as (allegedly) wants to move back to London. The loan to Newport was always in the hope he impresses thus drumming up as many interested clubs as possible. Chelsea have been aware of Antoine since Filton. This is the window of max value. We sell & reinvest - Good business! And if it is Chelsea, a club we have good relations with then even better. Cue AS signing for United.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, redcherryberry said: 18 months left of his contract, won’t sign a new deal as (allegedly) wants to move back to London. The loan to Newport was always in the hope he impresses thus drumming up as many interested clubs as possible. Chelsea have been aware of Antoine since Filton. This is the window of max value. We sell & reinvest - Good business! And if it is Chelsea, a club we have good relations with then even better. Cue AS signing for United.... Why didn't Chelsea just sign him up for free when he was at filton ? Also find it odd why a prem team would bother signing him now when he will be even cheaper come the summer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, miketh2nd said: Why didn't Chelsea just sign him up for free when he was at filton ? Also find it odd why a prem team would bother signing him now when he will be even cheaper come the summer . You think Chelsea have scouts watching Filton? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: You think Chelsea have scouts watching Filton? Haha You'd be surprised. There are premiership scouts watching football all over the place from age 8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RedDave said: You think Chelsea have scouts watching Filton? Haha Nope Im Just questioning the post above from redcherryberry where he claims Chelsea were aware of him whilst at Fillton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You'd be surprised. There are premiership scouts watching football all over the place from age 8... I wouldn’t be surprised at all as I know how it works. The vast vast minority of 8 year olds in England are watched by Premier league scouts. Just now, miketh2nd said: Nope Im Just questioning the post above from redcherryberry where he claims Chelsea were aware of him whilst at Fillton.... Fair enough haven’t read that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Apologies if it’s alread been posted, but apparently it’s ‘imminent ‘ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-closing-bristol-citys-antoine-2477581 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Time to be strong about clauses Yep, I recently had to do the same. Santa, the fat git, got stuck in my chimney just a few weeks ago, it's not the first time. I've told him, in no uncertain terms, I don't want him coming next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 I may have misunderstood, but thought there was some new guidance coming along that would stop teams like Chelsea have twenty gazillion players on loan everywhere? If so, seems odd they are increasing their stable at this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You'd be surprised. There are premiership scouts watching football all over the place from age 8... Seems rather young to be a premiership scout ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, soultrader said: Seems rather young to be a premiership scout ? Yes too young to be a scout, I think you can only be a cub at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: You'd be surprised. There are premiership scouts watching football all over the place from age 8... My mates son got scouted by Cardiff last week whilst playing over in Winterbourne, they have a team based in Yate apparently, my mates son is 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Apologies if it’s alread been posted, but apparently it’s ‘imminent ‘ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-closing-bristol-citys-antoine-2477581 Probably just getting all their info from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, cityexile said: I may have misunderstood, but thought there was some new guidance coming along that would stop teams like Chelsea have twenty gazillion players on loan everywhere? If so, seems odd they are increasing their stable at this time! Not until 2020/21 I believe. Think it is for players over 21 too so it will help but still has the odd loophole- read it is a maximum of 8 loanees aged 21 or over, could change though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Anyone else think this is shades of David Coterie going to Wigan? DC had one stellar game in the televised match at Northampton, just before the transfer deadline and Wigan bid £2m to get him before other teams came in for him - Norwich I think. .Not saying that Chelsea haven't been monitoring him for a while but seems very coincidental that after god performances in 2 televised cup matches, Chelsea look to get him with Man U rumoured to be in the hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, soultrader said: Seems rather young to be a premiership scout ? That's so they aren't too conspicuous while watching U10s games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, redcherryberry said: 18 months left of his contract, won’t sign a new deal as (allegedly) wants to move back to London. The loan to Newport was always in the hope he impresses thus drumming up as many interested clubs as possible. Chelsea have been aware of Antoine since Filton. This is the window of max value. We sell & reinvest - Good business! And if it is Chelsea, a club we have good relations with then even better. Cue AS signing for United.... He signed a 2 year contract extension back in July 18, I really don't think he's become that homesick in the 6-7 months since signing that deal. Plus it's only 2 hours down the motorway, hardly a problem to see his family. And the loan deal to Newport was to aid in his development in making our first team, not to be sold off at the earliest opportunity for a mickey mouse £1-2million + 30% sell on. We are getting our pants pulled down by Chelsea. Not only do we add value to all their loan players, we now sell off our brightest youth prospects to their academy for them to make more profit on. 18 months more development with us, and we could have another £10m- £15m player on our hands. Even if he doesn't develop at this continued rate, we will get the £1-2mill we are getting for him now and we can demand the 30% sell on like we have with McCoulsky. I bet MA has been pressured into agreeing this deal as he dare not risk the deals we have pending for Palmer, Da Silva and possibly Kalas..... 2 hours ago, RedRaw said: Why? Surely our relationship with Chelsea is a win-win for all concerened The way I see it, its not as clear cut as a win-win for both us and them. Yes we have benefited by having their players on loan here, but we have added value onto each one. The proof will be seeing the kind of deals we manage to negotiate for Palmer & Da Silva and possibly Kalas (if he chooses to stay). As things currently stand and if this AS deal goes through as being reported, the relationship with Chelsea is being hugely stacked in their favour. We are being used as a Championship feeder club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kezman said: He signed a 2 year contract extension back in July 18, I really don't think he's become that homesick in the 6-7 months since signing that deal. Plus it's only 2 hours down the motorway, hardly a problem to see his family. And the loan deal to Newport was to aid in his development in making our first team, not to be sold off at the earliest opportunity for a mickey mouse £1-2million + 30% sell on. We are getting our pants pulled down by Chelsea. Not only do we add value to all their loan players, we now sell off our brightest youth prospects to their academy for them to make more profit on. 18 months more development with us, and we could have another £10m- £15m player on our hands. Even if he doesn't develop at this continued rate, we will get the £1-2mill we are getting for him now and we can demand the 30% sell on like we have with McCoulsky. I bet MA has been pressured into agreeing this deal as he dare not risk the deals we have pending for Palmer, Da Silva and possibly Kalas..... The way I see it, its not as clear cut as a win-win for both us and them. Yes we have benefited by having their players on loan here, but we have added value onto each one. The proof will be seeing the kind of deals we manage to negotiate for Palmer & Da Silva and possibly Kalas (if he chooses to stay). As things currently stand and if this AS deal goes through as being reported, the relationship with Chelsea is being hugely stacked in their favour. We are being used as a Championship feeder club. It’s a win win for Chelsea for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Shtanley said: Kelly is most people's "greatest ever academy graduate" so don't think he gets many props for playing him. He signed Dasilva did he not? O'Leary, he was trying to buy another keeper. You not remember Zach Steffen? He was clearly trying to find another one and wasn't comfortable with O'Leary as a temporary number two. Morrell, LJ himself admitted that he wasn't planning on playing him vs Huddersfield but Pack got ill. He was trying to sign Williams too. Clearly been forced to play him and has now been made aware how good Morrell was/is. Thought Maenpaa was signed after it became clear we weren't getting Steffen. If he really wasn't comfortable with O'Leary we would have found an emergency loan as those can be done outside the transfer window for goalkeepers if none are fit, and we would have been able to do that with O'Leary being the 'youth goalkeeper'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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