Emiliano Sala

[JasonM88]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Saw this on Twitter in last 10 mins. Seems to be a lot of talk about it- any truth or??

Flares basically seen on an island that is (aside from birds and wildlife) uninhabited, an island near Alderney. I've honestly no idea, but seems to be a lot of talk about it on Twitter.

Police have done a half hour aerial search of the island, but nothing on foot yet apparently...Island called Burhou. World Heritage site.

They’ve at least crashed into the freezing cold sea. Had they even made it to the island, they’d have struggled immediately with hypothermia. The air temp on the channel drops to around -8 at night. 

[BCFC11]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Saw this on Twitter in last 10 mins. Seems to be a lot of talk about it- any truth or??

Flares basically seen on an island that is (aside from birds and wildlife) uninhabited, an island near Alderney. I've honestly no idea, but seems to be a lot of talk about it on Twitter.

Police have done a half hour aerial search of the island, but nothing on foot yet apparently...Island called Burhou. World Heritage site.

I thought I read that the plane left Nantes around 7/8pm? Could be something in it but times seem too far apart?

[Mr Popodopolous]

8 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

They’ve at least crashed into the freezing cold sea. Had they even made it to the island, they’d have struggled immediately with hypothermia. The air temp on the channel drops to around -8 at night. 

For sure- would have had big problems even had they made it to the island.

Could it have been searched on foot during daylight though  sooner than it has been- if indeed it has been? This Tweet was sent 10.36am on 22nd January- nearly 48 hours ago. No criticism at all of anyone searching, but in these things time can really make all the difference.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Mr Popodopolous

[poland_exile]

53 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

For sure- would have had big problems even had they made it to the island.

Could it have been searched on foot during daylight though  sooner than it has been- if indeed it has been? This Tweet was sent 10.36am on 22nd January- nearly 48 hours ago. No criticism at all of anyone searching, but in these things time can really make all the difference.

It's one of those damned if you, damned if you don't situations. My dog works for our local fire brigade searching for missing people, and a lot of misconceptions exist about the job. At the end of the day, you're talking about making the most of the limited resources / team you have whilst the clock ticks against you. You can't be everywhere. Whilst it seems odd these flares (or whatever they turn out to be) coming from the island weren't investigated earlier, there's sure to be a very good reason for that (lack of) action, i.e. it would have taken resources away from a more pertinent area of search. Mistakes are often made, that goes without saying, but all searches - whether they be land or sea - are highly complex and intricate things with an extremely solid methodology behind them (and I imagine in the UK the level, knowledge and expertise is even higher).

Incidentally, I realize you're not having a pop Mr P, am just giving a different side here! 

Edited January 24, 2019 by poland_exile

[phantom]

10 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Saw this on Twitter in last 10 mins. Seems to be a lot of talk about it- any truth or??

Flares basically seen on an island that is (aside from birds and wildlife) uninhabited, an island near Alderney. I've honestly no idea, but seems to be a lot of talk about it on Twitter.

Police have done a half hour aerial search of the island, but nothing on foot yet apparently...Island called Burhou. World Heritage site.

But flares are fired in a singular action, these appear to show a trajectory of all being fired at the same time 

[reddogkev]

Is there still any hope of the two men being found alive?  Would be the most incredible ending to a tragic situation if they are still surviving somehow.

 

[chowie]

The guy who tweeted the picture is from Brighton, that Island is over 100 miles from there right? Look like contrails possibly. 

[KingLear]

10 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

 

This doesn't look like flares to me, certainly not ones that would be fired from your 'standard' flare gun kept on a light aircraft.

These smoke trails, whatever they are, also extend quite a way into the distance, whereas your average flare will travel around 500 feet up into the air and fall slowly back to earth. 

These also look too big to be associated with the size of aircraft we're talking about here.

That being said, I hope  they do provide authorities with some kind of clue.

[spudski]

Are there other pictures showing what's up in the sky to the top left?

Because that could be falling burning pieces of aeroplane instead of flares going up...sorry again if that sounds morbid, but there is no other way of asking.

[JasonM88]

30 minutes ago, spudski said:

Are there other pictures showing what's up in the sky to the top left?

Because that could be falling burning pieces of aeroplane instead of flares going up...sorry again if that sounds morbid, but there is no other way of asking.

12 hours after the planes gone missing

[Southport Red]

There is a massive rush of early morning flights out of Heathrow and Gatwick. Most likey explanation is that it is the rush hour contrails and that is a flight lane. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Southport Red

[Super]

https://news.sky.com/story/pilot-of-missing-plane-carrying-emiliano-sala-said-he-was-a-bit-rusty-11616128?fbclid=IwAR3kdHkjhjmrKXybumNATXZNf6cC6TYa4dw_U_0rHT8d4vLIEYqz_A3eYZg

[EmissionImpossible]

10 minutes ago, Super said:

https://news.sky.com/story/pilot-of-missing-plane-carrying-emiliano-sala-said-he-was-a-bit-rusty-11616128?fbclid=IwAR3kdHkjhjmrKXybumNATXZNf6cC6TYa4dw_U_0rHT8d4vLIEYqz_A3eYZg

A ridiculous news story. Said he was a little rusty to a friend...Typically sensationalist story with nothing of any value.

[Monkeh]

3 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said:

A ridiculous news story. Said he was a little rusty to a friend...Typically sensationalist story with nothing of any value.

indeed, until the plane/black box is found, we won't know what happened 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Monkeh

[iamalagerdrinker]

Pilot of the plane lives not far from me not heard the bloke before but shocked to find out it was someone so close to home.

[Negan]

4 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

indeed, until the plane/black box is found, we won't know what happened 

Don't they have a month to find the plane before the black box becomes unsalvageable? 

[Monkeh]

1 minute ago, Negan said:

Don't they have a month to find the plane before the black box becomes unsalvageable? 

batteries last 30 days (standard commercial flight) thats how long it sends a signal I believe, they need to find the tail of this plane as thats where it should be kept,

I'm not sure how long it stores info for, but it records the last 2 hours of the flight

[Coppello]

3 minutes ago, Negan said:

Don't they have a month to find the plane before the black box becomes unsalvageable? 

I don't know anything about aviation so this may be a stupid question - would a plane of this size have a black box? 

[Monkeh]

1 minute ago, Coppello said:

I don't know anything about aviation so this may be a stupid question - would a plane of this size have a black box? 

from a quick google search

The "black box" is made up of two separate pieces of equipment: the flight data recorder (FDR) and a cockpit voice recorder (CVR). They are compulsory on any commercial flight or corporate jet, and are usually kept in the tail of an aircraft, where they are more likely to survive a crash

[Alan Dicks' Barmy Army]

14 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Pilot of the plane lives not far from me not heard the bloke before but shocked to find out it was someone so close to home.

Apologies for asking, but why should you have heard of him?

[zippycar]

13 minutes ago, Coppello said:

I don't know anything about aviation so this may be a stupid question - would a plane of this size have a black box? 

Highly unlikely

[wendyredredrobin]

As they seem to know roughly where the plane was, I find it amazing after all this time that they haven't found any wreckage or at least a fuel or oil slick.  It's not like they were searching for a needle in a haystack in the South Atlantic.

Private and commercial flights are in this area all the time along with considerable marine traffic even if SAR has found no sign.

[Monkeh]

5 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

As they seem to know roughly where the plane was, I find it amazing after all this time that they haven't found any wreckage or at least a fuel or oil slick.  It's not like they were searching for a needle in a haystack in the South Atlantic.

Private and commercial flights are in this area all the time along with considerable marine traffic even if SAR has found no sign.

if its gone down in water, they have to take drift, under laying currents and all sort of other things into consideration, 

[Akira]

7 minutes ago, zippycar said:

Highly unlikely

Exactly this. 

 

It's a two seater prop plane. Its not a commercial airliner or a private jet. Its a prop plane. Very unlikely to have a black box. Would be amazing if it did, but unlikely. 

[iamalagerdrinker]

15 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Apologies for asking, but why should you have heard of him?

One of them places where everyone knows everyone

[wendyredredrobin]

5 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

if its gone down in water, they have to take drift, under laying currents and all sort of other things into consideration, 

Understood, but with all the traffic in the area I am surprised that nothing has been spotted. Things usually don't disappear without a trace unless someone wants them to disappear without a trace.

[RedM]

Going back to the insurance thing, would the player even be insured. I guess so but there are often restrictions placed on ‘valuable assets’, eg no travelling in a helicopter, no using a jet ski, no owning a motorbike etc. Would a small plane be on one of the restricted lists? I guess not if the Agent representative was ferrying him around, if that’s true, but it made me wonder.

So sad for all concerned that there is no news, must be absolute agony waiting but surely now there can’t still be any hope only closure, and they might not ever get that. So cruel.

[oldstandrobin]

3 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Understood, but with all the traffic in the area I am surprised that nothing has been spotted. Things usually don't disappear without a trace unless someone wants them to disappear without a trace.

But if it sank, you wouldn't see any evidence in a lot of cases. The Pilot and Emiliano would be still strapped in if it went in fast, so like the  Air France that went into the Atlantic a few years back, it may take some finding.

[Super]

25 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

As they seem to know roughly where the plane was, I find it amazing after all this time that they haven't found any wreckage or at least a fuel or oil slick.  It's not like they were searching for a needle in a haystack in the South Atlantic.

Private and commercial flights are in this area all the time along with considerable marine traffic even if SAR has found no sign.

It does seem odd. I'm no expert but they last had contact at 2500 feet so guessing they know that location and which route is was going In. That area is fairly wide though and of course they have no idea after how long it flew for.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Super

[Monkeh]

13 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Understood, but with all the traffic in the area I am surprised that nothing has been spotted. Things usually don't disappear without a trace unless someone wants them to disappear without a trace.

why would some one want an unknown pilot and footballer to disappear, you're in conspiracy theory territory there,