Unan Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Watched the highlights on the EFL program. Can’t we find him a better loan or is he no good? Awful defending from Southend. ps. Have we got better or has the standard of football got worse in league 1? It looks almost amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unan said: Watched the highlights on the EFL program. Can’t we find him a better loan or is he no good? Awful defending from Southend. ps. Have we got better or has the standard of football got worse in league 1? It looks almost amateur. Very good defender. Expecting him to be 4th choice for us next season in first team squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Unan said: Watched the highlights on the EFL program. Can’t we find him a better loan or is he no good? Awful defending from Southend. ps. Have we got better or has the standard of football got worse in league 1? It looks almost amateur. Have a look in the Loan Watch thread and see the posts from Southend fans offering to take him off our hands if we don't want him. Don't worry he will be making the step up soon. It was supposed to be this season I think, until an unfortunately timed injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: Very good defender. Expecting him to be 4th choice for us next season in first team squad Would be more (no pun) than happy to see a back line squad of: Hunt / Pisano (i’d give him another year as it stands) Wright / Kalas (please) / Webster / Moore Kelly / Dasilva (please) With Pring seeing if he is up to integrating. That leaves Baker, who I would move on to give Kelly the LCB back-up spot. Vyner I’m not sure about. Might need another loan??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Unan said: Watched the highlights on the EFL program. Can’t we find him a better loan or is he no good? Awful defending from Southend. ps. Have we got better or has the standard of football got worse in league 1? It looks almost amateur. You can’t really tell if a player is any good from 30 secs of highlights!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Also can't judge the quality of a division based on highlights of a game where one of the relegation candidates gets a rare win. However, a cracking double save by the Southend 'keeper at the start of the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Also can't judge the quality of a division based on highlights of a game where one of the relegation candidates gets a rare win. However, a cracking double save by the Southend 'keeper at the start of the video. Cracking double save or poor finishing? Full net and he hits it right at the keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I expect him and Vyner to be in our first team squad next season. Not sure about that. I can see them both being out on loan again. Currently the squad is well stocked with decent defenders and if we lose Kalas/Dasilva next season there’s still enough quality to absorb that loss without keeping Moore or Vyner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/17393487.bristol-city-defender-taylor-moore-unsure-what-future-might-hold-after-loan-spell-at-southend-united/?ref=ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Very good defender. Expecting him to be 4th choice for us next season in first team squad Based on what ? I know only 30 seconds but looked bang average , did not do well on either goal , not in the same league as defenders we have , and if Kalas left I’m sure we would bring in similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Unan said: Cracking double save or poor finishing? Full net and he hits it right at the keeper Very good initial save, and good awareness and agility to be back up and made himself as big as possible for the follow up. He did as much as it was possible to do. Yes the rebound was hit at him, but there was a PL 'keeper who did an almost identical save a couple of weeks ago and he got a bunch of plaudits on MOTD, so credit has to be given to the Southend goalkeeper for what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Club can’t think that much of him if he’s loaned out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Fiale said: https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/17393487.bristol-city-defender-taylor-moore-unsure-what-future-might-hold-after-loan-spell-at-southend-united/?ref=ar Not at all unlike what Tammy Abraham was saying when he was with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 t.b.h. cant see taylor moore being a reqular for city. looking at bits i have seen of him i think he is along way from championship standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Fiale said: https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/17393487.bristol-city-defender-taylor-moore-unsure-what-future-might-hold-after-loan-spell-at-southend-united/?ref=ar Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, shelts said: Club can’t think that much of him if he’s loaned out . Yes that follows, we haven't loaned out any other players, we have rated in the past have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Vyner I’m not sure about. Might need another loan??? I think he needs a loan playing CB , like he did so successfully for Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: Based on what ? I know only 30 seconds but looked bang average , did not do well on either goal , not in the same league as defenders we have , and if Kalas left I’m sure we would bring in similar Pretty silly to judge a whole season on 30 seconds highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I haven't seen anything from TM to suggest he's ever going to be a regular at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Could he be the missing link to one of the best back 5's in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I haven't seen anything from TM to suggest he's ever going to be a regular at Championship level. When have you seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I haven't seen anything from TM to suggest he's ever going to be a regular at Championship level. Have you actually seen anything of TM though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedDave said: When have you seen him play? 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Have you actually seen anything of TM though Hull. Bullied in the air throughout the game. OK footballer, nice chap, but lacks the natural aggression to compete physically at this level imo. Can aggression be taught? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Yes that follows, we haven't loaned out any other players, we have rated in the past have we? Good post . Can’t see him getting a look in with the centre half’s we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: OK footballer, nice chap, but lacks the natural aggression to compete physically at this level imo. Can aggression be taught? I doubt it. Was Bobby Moore naturally aggressive? Is Webster naturally aggressive? To be a competent and competitive CB you need anticipation and positional skills. Baker is naturally aggressive and although his disciplinary record has improved he was when he first arrived at AG a liability because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Hull. Bullied in the air throughout the game. OK footballer, nice chap, but lacks the natural aggression to compete physically at this level imo. Can aggression be taught? I doubt it. Haha young players often improve! City fans watch a player once or twice and hold that opinion for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Excellent footballer but lightweight . More suited to the lower leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 One (glass half full) way you can look at it is Taylor Moore is just 21 y/o playing his first full season in his favoured position, and he will probably pick up League One Southend's POTY award. Where was Aden Flint at 21 y/o? Playing in the Conference North for Alfreton Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Was Bobby Moore naturally aggressive? Is Webster naturally aggressive? To be a competent and competitive CB you need anticipation and positional skills. Baker is naturally aggressive and although his disciplinary record has improved he was when he first arrived at AG a liability because of it. Did you think Taylor Moore is Bobby Moore's son? He's not, nor should he be mentioned in the same breath. Is Webster aggressive? Yes, when he needs to be. Baker is not naturally aggressive at all, he simply has a ridiculous and completely out of character rush of blood to the head now and again. To be a competent and competitive Championship CB you have to be able to hold your own in the air against very physical opponents as a basic. I can't see TM doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Hull. Bullied in the air throughout the game. OK footballer, nice chap, but lacks the natural aggression to compete physically at this level imo. Can aggression be taught? I doubt it. Eighteen months ago at least? You simply cannot base an opinion on his present standard from a game that long ago. I suspect he has improved a good deal and expect him to be in our first team squad next season. And Vyner also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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