InCyder Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Haven't seen a thread on it yet so I hope I'm not duplicating. Firstly, congrats to LJ - Understandably up for the Manager of the Month award and favourite to claim it. More often than not, a player from the same team will be nominated for the Player of the Month award for obvious reasons. I know we haven't really had those consistent stand-out performances from our attackers but I was a little surprised not to see either one of our CB's in the running for Player of the Month considering how good they have been. Got me thinking about how difficult it is for a defender to make a big impression outside of their own club so I thought I'd do a little digging to see how often defenders pick up the Player of the Month award. The last time it was won by a defender in the Championship? Aden Flint - September 17 Before that Aden Flint - Feb 16 I guess you need to score goals as a defender to stand a chance? Perhaps it's just me (it's quite likely) that tends to admire a top performance from a defender more so than the equivalent from an attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Reckon Tony Mowbray might win this one. Only due to the fact that Blackburn played four times in January, and won them all. Whereas we only played three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmering Red Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 I thought they included cups as well which would mean 5 in 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Mowbray can have it. We don't need the publicity nor the supposed curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, pride of the west said: Mowbray can have it. We don't need the publicity nor the supposed curse. Quite right- we're so massive already, let's just tippy toe our way to success and hope no one notices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 7, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Angmering Red said: I thought they included cups as well which would mean 5 in 5 No, only on league results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmering Red Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Thanks, didn't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Has to be Mowbray, 4/4 and 3 clean sheets. Good for LJ to be nominated again shows continued success while not getting the curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 No such thing as a curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 hours ago, RedDave said: No such thing as a curse It’s bad luck to say that aloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCyder Posted February 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 hours ago, hodge said: Has to be Mowbray, 4/4 and 3 clean sheets. Good for LJ to be nominated again shows continued success while not getting the curse I have to be honest, like others might think for us, Blackburn's run in January passed me by - under the radar you could say. Go on then, give it to Mowbray and they can have the 'curse' for the weekend! Edit. I see they have given both awards to the Blackburn pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Called it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Now let the curse strike ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, phantom said: Now let the curse strike ! Starting with a home hammering Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZYBCFC Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BCFCGav said: Starting with a home hammering Saturday! All this talk of a curse - are there any stats to back this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, DOZZYBCFC said: All this talk of a curse - are there any stats to back this up? I don't have any, but I remember a few years back when either John Ward or Danny Wilson won it two months running - at the time it was the first time it had ever been done, which shows that keeping that kind of form going for an extended period is a pretty rare thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 8, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, DOZZYBCFC said: All this talk of a curse - are there any stats to back this up? It used to be mentioned a lot, think it was more a myth than anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I don't have any, but I remember a few years back when either John Ward or Danny Wilson won it two months running - at the time it was the first time it had ever been done, which shows that keeping that kind of form going for an extended period is a pretty rare thing. It's a myth which is down to an effect that also covers another myth- the dead cat bounce. When someones wins manager of the month its usually because a team has performed exceptionally, particularly relative to their previous form that season. If Brentford and Norwich both won 4/4 in Feb as an example, it would more than likely be the Brentford manager who wins MOTM. But what would follow is regression to the mean. Brentford would have outperformed their previous performances for this season, meaning it's unlikely for it to carry on for an extended period. When the inevitable fallaway happens it gets put down to the 'curse'. Same idea with sacked managers (and research has been done on this) where often there is a slight upturn in results, but the players regress back to how they were doing before that's why some teams always seem to need a new manager around the same time each year. Data also shows that if a club sticks with the manager it may take a bit longer for the poor form to end, but the results on the other side of the bad form are better than the 'good' results obtained from the "dead cat bounce". Short version- opposite effect of the 'dead cat bounce' but using the same principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Manager of the month for January, seeing off competition from Brentford boss Thomas Frank, Bristol City chief Lee Johnson and Swansea City’s Graham Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Deserved to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, daored said: Manager of the month for January ! He’ll lose tomorrow then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Very good manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Deserved to be fair. how did their record compare to ours surely winning all your games in January would make you the leading candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Quiz question.....which manager once won manager of the month after the ending the month with zero league points after his club played five league games in that month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, pillred said: how did their record compare to ours surely winning all your games in January would make you the leading candidate. Yeah they won all 4 compared to us winning all 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, hodge said: Yeah they won all 4 compared to us winning all 3... does the FA cup not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, pillred said: does the FA cup not count? Well its a league award so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, hodge said: Well its a league award so no ah! that would explain it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Very good manager A bit of a more experienced LJ imo. When his sides are at their best they are excellent to watch (West Brom 07-08 being a prime example) but he's also prone to some very poor runs of results. He's done well at Blackburn and it'll be a tough game on Saturday no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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