A Horse With No Name Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Surprised no-one has mentioned Kemar Roofe. He would fit in really well alongside Fam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 No striker necessary, it would upset our style. No coincidence imo that whenever weve had a good striker in this league, Tammy, Kodjia, etc, we havent done so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: Never expect better from me I was always told to "Expect the Unexpected", it never fails . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Dwight Gayle in this team ....wow. But first as Kasey Palmer has found out you can't just walk in this team you've got to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said: I'm not sure 'carnage' Turner could play up top with him nowadays sticks, he must be well into his 50's by now. I’m sure they both are but by god what a pair they were 89/90 season BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 IMO we have the most complete striker in the league in Diedhiou. Someone like Gayle, Pukki or Roofe alongside would be scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Gayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODSY1111 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Imagine if we could find the next Ade Akinbiyi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Oh, i didn't know we could only go with one formation. It's not that we can, it's that we do. When you're 14 games unbeaten and 8 wins in a row is it really the right time to change the formation and start testing other ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: I think the lad at Brum Che Evans would do a decent job if he were playing for us,Strong and with decent pace and a good shot. I like him a lot (apart from diving). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Spike said: It's not that we can, it's that we do. When you're 14 games unbeaten and 8 wins in a row is it really the right time to change the formation and start testing other ones? Who's asking for a change? I was asking a serious question that has also been asked on TV tonight. Not many teams go up not having a bloke who gets a ton of goals in the process. Lee and co are doing brilliant, i have no complaints, just asking a valid question. We have an unbelievable back line, but do we have enough up top to take us the whole way? Valid question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Tammy, Gayle, even Reid from last season (for work rate AND goals), really like Waghorn as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Sergi canos, watch his goal today, pure class think he would add that something a bit different to our forward play, flair, something that's lacking maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, pillred said: Sergi canos, watch his goal today, pure class think he would add that something a bit different to our forward play, flair, something that's lacking maybe? Kasey Palmer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Kasey Palmer ? Looking promising so far, they are slightly different Kasey is fast and exiting on the ball, Canos seems to have that extra bit of time that seperates the good from the great, would be nice to have both of them (getting greedy now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: I think the lad at Brum Che Evans would do a decent job if he were playing for us,Strong and with decent pace and a good shot. 5 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Glad you left out a D 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I like him a lot (apart from diving). I’m assuming you lot actually mean Che Adams at Birmingham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 In our current unbeaten run we haven't scored more than 2 in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 hours ago, petehinton said: IMO we have the most complete striker in the league in Diedhiou. Someone like Gayle, Pukki or Roofe alongside would be scary. We could lose the midfield that way though. This has been one of the issues in the past- who would drop out for one of them? Currently the configuration works to a tee, pairing up- change of shape...problem IMO. Now if we were talking one of them to replace Diedhiou as the apex in the formation- and I would add hypothetically speaking Assombalonga too- then different story. Movement of any of them with options like O'Dowda, Weimann, Palmer, Eliasson, Paterson- and the passing range of Pack and yes Webster especially- wow. That could lead us to a whole new level. However we don't have them and the system works just fine as it is- think Palmer should start though, perhaps for Paterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Robbie turner now thats someone who always gave 100pc. Most be mid 50s now? Credit to the coaching team for improving eliasson. Can see him playing in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Kodja? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Tammy Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 hours ago, bpexile said: I was always told to "Expect the Unexpected", it never fails . But if you expect it it is no longer unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 11 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Who's asking for a change? I was asking a serious question that has also been asked on TV tonight. Not many teams go up not having a bloke who gets a ton of goals in the process. Lee and co are doing brilliant, i have no complaints, just asking a valid question. We have an unbelievable back line, but do we have enough up top to take us the whole way? Valid question You asked for names and you got a reply saying most of the ones you mentioned couldn't play as a solo player to which you replied 16 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Oh, i didn't know we could only go with one formation. Implying that we could charge the formation. My reply was simply pointing out that changing the formation when it's working so well for us would be pointless. So the implication from yourself was that we could have a big name Striker by changing the formation. If you're in agreement that the formation should stay the same then the striker that would have certainly helped improve us was without a doubt Assombalonga as he's the main striker in the Championship who can play as a lone striker and has the ability to score goals. Currently Middlesbrough don't use Assombalonga as we'd have intended to, they essentially play a 3-4-3 with the front 3 being broken down into lone striker and two supporting AM's, this would work well for Assombalonga if Middlesbrough played a style of football like ours but instead they good the ball up to him and expect him to bring the two attacking mids into play. We're much more focused on using width and when we do lump it up to Fammy he doesn't have the control, despite his size and stature, to hold it off. Assombalonga is outstanding at holding up a ball and playing the ball to a supporting player, the issue at Middlesbrough is that he then turns and gets into the box, only with their second AM and midfield pushing up the box gets crowded and he's nullified. Because we only play with one AM he tends to receive from our front man and distribute the ball elsewhere allowing the forward to push up in the box where there is space and our wide men can provide. I genuinely believe Assombalonga would have done wonders for us, he's better suited as the role Fammy plays and it would also give Fammy someone to learn from when it comes to playing that role as well as make him fight for the position. If we'd managed to get him we'd essentially have two quality strikers fighting for the starting position, instead we're currently relying on Fammy to do everything and he's too important to rest or drop should he struggle. I really like Fammy, I honestly do, but his first touch and ball control require some hefty work. He may be an all around player but the key things we need from a striker in this role is size, strength, control, finishing and the ability to score headers, Fammy has all of that but the control and that prevents a lot of our attacks from developing to the point where he can use the other abilities he has. Oh and Tammy, Tammy goes without saying as we'd definitely be in with a shot of promotion with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 @Spike good post As for Tammy, did you watch the Sheffield Utd game on Friday (I watched most of it)? Tammy was so isolated and I’m not sure he’d do the grunt work that Fam does for little personal benefit. I only caught bits of yesterday on a stream, and perhaps that covered Fam’s best points but I thought he did well to balls knocked up to him, able to get lay-offs to forward moving players, like COD. The “easy” header he missed from a corner, was under pressure and I wonder if the defender got a bit of a deflection on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Spike good post As for Tammy, did you watch the Sheffield Utd game on Friday (I watched most of it)? Tammy was so isolated and I’m not sure he’d do the grunt work that Fam does for little personal benefit. I only caught bits of yesterday on a stream, and perhaps that covered Fam’s best points but I thought he did well to balls knocked up to him, able to get lay-offs to forward moving players, like COD. The “easy” header he missed from a corner, was under pressure and I wonder if the defender got a bit of a deflection on it. Tammy's issue with Villa is he is isolated with next to no support, the same happened at Swansea but on a much larger scale, I don't think that'd be the case with us as we play it to Fammy and then come back, Villa are always trying to push forward which is why I think he gets so isolated. When we had Tammy here we had Tomlin supporting him in those situations and right now we have Palmer, Brownhill and Paterson all able to do that same role and with more consistency too. I understand what you're saying but I honestly think Tammy would have a field day with this current set up, there is a lot more movement which he thrives off of and our passing game creates a lot of pockets for a striker like Tammy to run into. With regards to Fammy he's a 50/50 player when it comes to long passes, he backs into players well but his touch when doing so is the 50/50 part, sometimes he holds it well, other times it looks like the ball was made out of rubber and his boots are made out of lead. Also with regards to his heading, I've seen him miss a lot of opportunities when heading, Tammy is prolific in the air and would easily score some of the chances Fammy misses. I'm not saying Fammy is bad, just simply saying for a big, hold up striker he still needs a lot of work on key areas of his game to be considered a top Championship forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Some Blackburn fans rated Fam’s performance yesterday (from their forum; match day thread): ‘As an aside, that big unit who played up top for them is exactly the type of player we lack. He could make the ball stick and was a nuisance all game. Looked £5mil well spent.’ And in reply: ‘100%. We said exactly that at the time. Looked good on the ball too.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, eardun said: Some Blackburn fans rated Fam’s performance yesterday (from their forum; match day thread): ‘As an aside, that big unit who played up top for them is exactly the type of player we lack. He could make the ball stick and was a nuisance all game. Looked £5mil well spent.’ And in reply: ‘100%. We said exactly that at the time. Looked good on the ball too.’ I agree that yesterday he was on the ball, but as I said he is 50/50, one game he has a blinder, the next he can't hold onto the ball at all. If I was defending against Fammy I would put a smaller, nippier player on him on the long balls, I know that sounds like madness because of his size and strength but honestly I've noticed players that run around him rather than trying to back into him force him to turn and face towards the goal, this cuts off his passing options and then he panics and is forced to run with the ball which is not his strong suit. That's also why I think Assombalonga is a better fit, he can do what Fammy does but he can also turn and run at players which means he's harder to pin down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, eardun said: Some Blackburn fans rated Fam’s performance yesterday (from their forum; match day thread): ‘As an aside, that big unit who played up top for them is exactly the type of player we lack. He could make the ball stick and was a nuisance all game. Looked £5mil well spent.’ And in reply: ‘100%. We said exactly that at the time. Looked good on the ball too.’ Think Derby fans said the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Spike good post As for Tammy, did you watch the Sheffield Utd game on Friday (I watched most of it)? Tammy was so isolated and I’m not sure he’d do the grunt work that Fam does for little personal benefit. I only caught bits of yesterday on a stream, and perhaps that covered Fam’s best points but I thought he did well to balls knocked up to him, able to get lay-offs to forward moving players, like COD. The “easy” header he missed from a corner, was under pressure and I wonder if the defender got a bit of a deflection on it. There was another free header where he thought he was a centre half and headed up and over ( schoolboy error) However , well done Fammy you put yourself about for the cause and you notch often enough to keep your place . Fam is part of a record breaking first team and will continue to get my support. I believe he is still learning and improving. He will be immense in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Major Isewater said: But if you expect it it is no longer unexpected. I expected that from you Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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