BobbyC Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Ciderhead433 said: Remember the gasworks when playing on the tip or fishing in the malago. Tobacco down East st Fishing ? I remember Jim the watercress who would collect watercress from that stretch behind the Malsters and flog it to the local shops for his cider money in the Black Horse. I think his name was Jim Redman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantsred Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 As a comparison, although Ashton Gate has a great and long history, its not quite the oldest in current use (top 2 divisions only)! Club Ground Capacity Date(1) Previous Ground Preston North End Deepdale 23,408 1878 Blackburn Rovers Ewood Park 31,367 1882 Burnley Turf Moor 21,944 1883 Ipswich Town Portman Road 30,300 1884 Wolverhampton Wanderers Molineux Stadium 32,050 1889 Sheffield United Bramall Lane 32,702 1889 Everton Goodison Park 39,221 1892 Liverpool Anfield 53,394 1892 Newcastle United St James Park 52,354 1892 Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 1896 Aston Villa Villa Park 42,785 1897 Nottingham Forest City Ground 30,576 1898 Sheffield Wednesday Hillsborough 39,732 1899 West Bromwich Albion The Hawthorns 26,580 1900 Brentford Griffin Park 12,763 1904 Bristol City Ashton Gate 27,000 1904 Chelsea Stamford Bridge 40,853 1905 Birmingham City St Andrew's 30,106 1906 AFC Bournemouth Dean Court (Vitality Stadium) 11,329 1910 Manchester United Old Trafford 74,879 1910 Queens Park Rangers Loftus Road 18,360 1917 Leeds United Elland Road 37,900 1919 Watford Vicarage Road 20,400 1922 Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,074 1924 Norwich City Carrow Road 27,220 1935 Millwall The Den 20,146 1993 The (Old) Den Huddersfield Town The John Smith's Stadium 24,121 1994 Leeds Road Middlesborough Riverside Stadium 34,742 1995 Ayresome Park Bolton Wanderers University of Bolton Stadium 28,723 1997 Burnden Park Derby County Pride Park Stadium 33,597 1997 Baseball Ground Stoke City bet365 Stadium 30,089 1997 Victoria Ground Reading Madejski Stadium 24,200 1998 Elm Park Wigan Athletic DW Stadium 25,133 1999 Springfield Park Southampton St Mary's Stadium 32,384 2001 The Dell Leicester City King Power Stadium 32,273 2002 Filbert Street Hull City KCOM Stadium 25,404 2002 Boothferry Park Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,107 2003 Maine Road Swansea City Liberty Stadium 21,088 2005 Vetch Field Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260 2006 Highbury Stadium Cardiff City Cardiff City Stadium 33,316 2009 Ninian Park Brighton & Hove Albion Amex Stadium (Falmer Stadium) 30,666 2011 Goldstone Ground Rotherham United New York Stadium 12,021 2012 Millmoor West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 2016 Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) Totenham Hostspur Totenham Hotspur Stadium 62,062 2019 White Hart Lane (1) Date built or date of first recognised use as football ground of current football club if later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, TomF said: Also Paul Townsends Flickr collection of Bristol is probably the most complete you'll ever find online. Can spend hours going through his albums: https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/albums Something for you to all waste your entire Friday looking through! Thank you for posting this, never thought to look on Flickr for a collection of old Bristol photos. When I was a youngster a relative had a collection of books about old Bristol, I used to spend hours and hours going through them when I visited looking at the old photos. This site is perfect for another browse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Gazred said: Thanks for that. Just sent it on to my Dad who has all the Reece Winston "Bristol as it was" books, he'll really enjoy looking through those. That’s the books I just mentioned, couldn’t remember what they were. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgy_Giefer Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I did not know this. Very interesting. On a similar note why is Section 82 so named? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Taylor is GOD Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, hantsred said: As a comparison, although Ashton Gate has a great and long history, its not quite the oldest in current use (top 2 divisions only)! Club Ground Capacity Date(1) Previous Ground Preston North End Deepdale 23,408 1878 Blackburn Rovers Ewood Park 31,367 1882 Burnley Turf Moor 21,944 1883 Ipswich Town Portman Road 30,300 1884 Wolverhampton Wanderers Molineux Stadium 32,050 1889 Sheffield United Bramall Lane 32,702 1889 Everton Goodison Park 39,221 1892 Liverpool Anfield 53,394 1892 Newcastle United St James Park 52,354 1892 Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 1896 Aston Villa Villa Park 42,785 1897 Nottingham Forest City Ground 30,576 1898 Sheffield Wednesday Hillsborough 39,732 1899 West Bromwich Albion The Hawthorns 26,580 1900 Brentford Griffin Park 12,763 1904 Bristol City Ashton Gate 27,000 1904 Chelsea Stamford Bridge 40,853 1905 Birmingham City St Andrew's 30,106 1906 AFC Bournemouth Dean Court (Vitality Stadium) 11,329 1910 Manchester United Old Trafford 74,879 1910 Queens Park Rangers Loftus Road 18,360 1917 Leeds United Elland Road 37,900 1919 Watford Vicarage Road 20,400 1922 Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,074 1924 Norwich City Carrow Road 27,220 1935 Millwall The Den 20,146 1993 The (Old) Den Huddersfield Town The John Smith's Stadium 24,121 1994 Leeds Road Middlesborough Riverside Stadium 34,742 1995 Ayresome Park Bolton Wanderers University of Bolton Stadium 28,723 1997 Burnden Park Derby County Pride Park Stadium 33,597 1997 Baseball Ground Stoke City bet365 Stadium 30,089 1997 Victoria Ground Reading Madejski Stadium 24,200 1998 Elm Park Wigan Athletic DW Stadium 25,133 1999 Springfield Park Southampton St Mary's Stadium 32,384 2001 The Dell Leicester City King Power Stadium 32,273 2002 Filbert Street Hull City KCOM Stadium 25,404 2002 Boothferry Park Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,107 2003 Maine Road Swansea City Liberty Stadium 21,088 2005 Vetch Field Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260 2006 Highbury Stadium Cardiff City Cardiff City Stadium 33,316 2009 Ninian Park Brighton & Hove Albion Amex Stadium (Falmer Stadium) 30,666 2011 Goldstone Ground Rotherham United New York Stadium 12,021 2012 Millmoor West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 2016 Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) Totenham Hostspur Totenham Hotspur Stadium 62,062 2019 White Hart Lane (1) Date built or date of first recognised use as football ground of current football club if later Although 14 "Home " games were played there in 1900/01 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, hantsred said: As a comparison, although Ashton Gate has a great and long history, its not quite the oldest in current use (top 2 divisions only)! Club Ground Capacity Date(1) Previous Ground Preston North End Deepdale 23,408 1878 Blackburn Rovers Ewood Park 31,367 1882 Burnley Turf Moor 21,944 1883 Ipswich Town Portman Road 30,300 1884 Wolverhampton Wanderers Molineux Stadium 32,050 1889 Sheffield United Bramall Lane 32,702 1889 Everton Goodison Park 39,221 1892 Liverpool Anfield 53,394 1892 Newcastle United St James Park 52,354 1892 Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 1896 Aston Villa Villa Park 42,785 1897 Nottingham Forest City Ground 30,576 1898 Sheffield Wednesday Hillsborough 39,732 1899 West Bromwich Albion The Hawthorns 26,580 1900 Brentford Griffin Park 12,763 1904 Bristol City Ashton Gate 27,000 1904 Chelsea Stamford Bridge 40,853 1905 Birmingham City St Andrew's 30,106 1906 AFC Bournemouth Dean Court (Vitality Stadium) 11,329 1910 Manchester United Old Trafford 74,879 1910 Queens Park Rangers Loftus Road 18,360 1917 Leeds United Elland Road 37,900 1919 Watford Vicarage Road 20,400 1922 Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,074 1924 Norwich City Carrow Road 27,220 1935 Millwall The Den 20,146 1993 The (Old) Den Huddersfield Town The John Smith's Stadium 24,121 1994 Leeds Road Middlesborough Riverside Stadium 34,742 1995 Ayresome Park Bolton Wanderers University of Bolton Stadium 28,723 1997 Burnden Park Derby County Pride Park Stadium 33,597 1997 Baseball Ground Stoke City bet365 Stadium 30,089 1997 Victoria Ground Reading Madejski Stadium 24,200 1998 Elm Park Wigan Athletic DW Stadium 25,133 1999 Springfield Park Southampton St Mary's Stadium 32,384 2001 The Dell Leicester City King Power Stadium 32,273 2002 Filbert Street Hull City KCOM Stadium 25,404 2002 Boothferry Park Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,107 2003 Maine Road Swansea City Liberty Stadium 21,088 2005 Vetch Field Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260 2006 Highbury Stadium Cardiff City Cardiff City Stadium 33,316 2009 Ninian Park Brighton & Hove Albion Amex Stadium (Falmer Stadium) 30,666 2011 Goldstone Ground Rotherham United New York Stadium 12,021 2012 Millmoor West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 2016 Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) Totenham Hostspur Totenham Hotspur Stadium 62,062 2019 White Hart Lane (1) Date built or date of first recognised use as football ground of current football club if later What’s interesting about that list is the number of clubs who have moved in the last 25 years - from Millwall downwards. With Brentford also moving shortly that’ll be 20 of the teams having gone to new, custom facilities in the timeframe. It’d be good to see the list for the bottom two divisions - I’d guess the “move” level is nowhere near as great. Proves the point that in modern football, you’ve got to have the off field facilities to progress as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, RedM said: That’s the books I just mentioned, couldn’t remember what they were. Thank you Great books. This is my prized possession though - same concept of old Bristol but this was published in 1908 and is comparing then to around 1850! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: But then they would have to knock down their own homes as well, I have a framed copy of this map from 1673 (I will find a place to hang it one day!) You will see that even places like Temple Meads were outside the original walls and the "CITTY" (sic) is very much aligned to the river. You can just about make out Alan Curbishley’s house . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Bristol has changed so much in 100 years. Relatively speaking, it is now a proper **** hole compared to back then. The war and successive culpable councils have made sure of that. Bristol's history of people, places and architecture is rich. I rarely ever speak to anyone that knows much about it, which is a shame. People aren't really interested. If you want to know more, just look at what Castle Park was prior to November 1940. You'll be amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hantsred said: As a comparison, although Ashton Gate has a great and long history, its not quite the oldest in current use (top 2 divisions only)! Club Ground Capacity Date(1) Previous Ground Preston North End Deepdale 23,408 1878 Blackburn Rovers Ewood Park 31,367 1882 Burnley Turf Moor 21,944 1883 Ipswich Town Portman Road 30,300 1884 Wolverhampton Wanderers Molineux Stadium 32,050 1889 Sheffield United Bramall Lane 32,702 1889 Everton Goodison Park 39,221 1892 Liverpool Anfield 53,394 1892 Newcastle United St James Park 52,354 1892 Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 1896 Aston Villa Villa Park 42,785 1897 Nottingham Forest City Ground 30,576 1898 Sheffield Wednesday Hillsborough 39,732 1899 West Bromwich Albion The Hawthorns 26,580 1900 Brentford Griffin Park 12,763 1904 Bristol City Ashton Gate 27,000 1904 Chelsea Stamford Bridge 40,853 1905 Birmingham City St Andrew's 30,106 1906 AFC Bournemouth Dean Court (Vitality Stadium) 11,329 1910 Manchester United Old Trafford 74,879 1910 Queens Park Rangers Loftus Road 18,360 1917 Leeds United Elland Road 37,900 1919 Watford Vicarage Road 20,400 1922 Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,074 1924 Norwich City Carrow Road 27,220 1935 Millwall The Den 20,146 1993 The (Old) Den Huddersfield Town The John Smith's Stadium 24,121 1994 Leeds Road Middlesborough Riverside Stadium 34,742 1995 Ayresome Park Bolton Wanderers University of Bolton Stadium 28,723 1997 Burnden Park Derby County Pride Park Stadium 33,597 1997 Baseball Ground Stoke City bet365 Stadium 30,089 1997 Victoria Ground Reading Madejski Stadium 24,200 1998 Elm Park Wigan Athletic DW Stadium 25,133 1999 Springfield Park Southampton St Mary's Stadium 32,384 2001 The Dell Leicester City King Power Stadium 32,273 2002 Filbert Street Hull City KCOM Stadium 25,404 2002 Boothferry Park Manchester City Etihad Stadium 55,107 2003 Maine Road Swansea City Liberty Stadium 21,088 2005 Vetch Field Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,260 2006 Highbury Stadium Cardiff City Cardiff City Stadium 33,316 2009 Ninian Park Brighton & Hove Albion Amex Stadium (Falmer Stadium) 30,666 2011 Goldstone Ground Rotherham United New York Stadium 12,021 2012 Millmoor West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 2016 Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) Totenham Hostspur Totenham Hotspur Stadium 62,062 2019 White Hart Lane (1) Date built or date of first recognised use as football ground of current football club if later 25 minutes ago, Bob Taylor is GOD said: Although 14 "Home " games were played there in 1900/01 season I am guessing it means the current stadium being a continual upgrade and built upon and not the grounds being in continual use as this is from 1902 (curtesy of @Threshing Red in a previous post). If the cricket was being played there, then the ground is a lot older than 1904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Bristol has changed so much in 100 years. Relatively speaking, it is now a proper **** hole compared to back then. The war and successive culpable councils have made sure of that. Bristol's history of people, places and architecture is rich. I rarely ever speak to anyone that knows much about it, which is a shame. People aren't really interested. If you want to know more, just look at what Castle Park was prior to November 1940. You'll be amazed. You are right , Bristol’s ‘ great and good ‘ have been holding back progress since the war . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: You are right , Bristol’s ‘ great and good ‘ have been holding back progress since the war . I agree that the progress has been slow, it's taken my lifetime to bring the docks up to what we were promised when I was an eight year old looking at a diorama of the future in the council offices. But they are nearly there and there are some great areas here. Not many outsiders are very negative about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinMan's left peg Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Some great stuff in this thread for our new museum. What’s happening with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Bristol has changed so much in 100 years. Relatively speaking, it is now a proper **** hole compared to back then. The war and successive culpable councils have made sure of that. Bristol's history of people, places and architecture is rich. I rarely ever speak to anyone that knows much about it, which is a shame. People aren't really interested. If you want to know more, just look at what Castle Park was prior to November 1940. You'll be amazed. In places yes - but even myself at 38 can remember the state of Bristol in the mid 80s - still had a lot of dereliction/spaces from the war. it might not be perfect but a lot of the regeneration centrally has been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, TomF said: Great books. This is my prized possession though - same concept of old Bristol but this was published in 1908 and is comparing then to around 1850! They’ve left the “L” off the end of that motto mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, harrys said: It’s a sort of half way house for mental health patients Fair play - this says it’s for the homeless too.... https://www.homeless.org.uk/homeless-england/service/toll-house-court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 hours ago, BobbyC said: The new city ground 1904. 20,000 pre-season tickets were sold at 1p each. What formation is that?!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Bloody prawn sandwich brigade. More like faggots and peas in those day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 All this wonderful stuff just because a little lad asked his dad "Why is it called Ashton Gate?" Good on yer kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Dodgy_Giefer said: I did not know this. Very interesting. On a similar note why is Section 82 so named? Thanks. Reclamation of 82 from the saggies, and I'm pretty sure a section 82 is something to do with noise complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: "Ashton" means 'farmstead by the ash trees.' So, perhaps a robin in an ash tree for the new badge? Or, a robin on a gate under an ash tree on a farm? I believe that the ‘ ton ‘ part of a place name means ‘ town ‘ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Bristol has changed so much in 100 years. Relatively speaking, it is now a proper **** hole compared to back then. The war and successive culpable councils have made sure of that. Bristol's history of people, places and architecture is rich. I rarely ever speak to anyone that knows much about it, which is a shame. People aren't really interested. If you want to know more, just look at what Castle Park was prior to November 1940. You'll be amazed. Harsh, in the past 30 the city has come on leaps and bounds. If we had a half decent local council one can only imagine how successful the place would be. As it is, aside from London and maybe Oxford/Edinburgh, there are few places more successful in the UK than Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprocket Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I believe that’s Aizoon on the right smoking his pipe. What I miss are the smells of the city , the tobacco, the Gas works , the diesel from the boats ... not as healthy as today I suppose but it’s part of my childhood that’s gone. I thought the same thing Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 10 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: I used to love the smell of the tannery in Bedminster. Smells of a working city. Bedminster? Don't recall that one though they did have Plucknett's that stunk gert lush. There was a tannery when I was a kid on Clift House Road. Sadly for AG Regent Remoulds in its prime stunk to high heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: Bedminster? Don't recall that one though they did have Plucknett's that stunk gert lush. There was a tannery when I was a kid on Clift House Road. Sadly for AG Regent Remoulds in its prime stunk to high heaven. It still does. It’s wonderfully original inside still - a bygone era of industry but they’re financially very sound. Apparently make a fortune selling to China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, TomF said: It still does. It’s wonderfully original inside still - a bygone era of industry but they’re financially very sound. Apparently make a fortune selling to China. What, the Tannery? Where is it? Plucknett's on the other hand used to love going in there for vinegar and cordials. Top place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: Harsh, in the past 30 the city has come on leaps and bounds. If we had a half decent local council one can only imagine how successful the place would be. As it is, aside from London and maybe Oxford/Edinburgh, there are few places more successful in the UK than Bristol. If you are familiar with Bristol before the war (mine is from significant research) you'll know what I mean. I'm not slating the city today, I'm saying that while it's still a great city it ain't a patch on what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: What, the Tannery? Where is it? Plucknett's on the other hand used to love going in there for vinegar and cordials. Top place. Tannery is still where it always was on corner of Coronation Road up from the toll house we’re talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Reigate Red said: This be it …. What fascinates me with photos such as this is that there is no litter on the street and people go about their daily business without a mobile phone or drinking bottled water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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