Major Isewater Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, 22A said: What fascinates me with photos such as this is that there is no litter on the street and people go about their daily business without a mobile phone or drinking bottled water. They couldn’t afford litter in those days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think I’m right in saying that before 1832 the site of our ground (and all of Bristol south of the river) was in Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Leveller said: I think I’m right in saying that before 1832 the site of our ground (and all of Bristol south of the river) was in Somerset? Bemmy might have been incorporated in 1832, but as the land south of Luckwell Rd wasn't built on until the 1920s, that area might still have been Somerset until later. Anyone know? My nan (b. 1908) grew up in a cottage near where the pits were and she considered herself a Somerset girl, while my mum (b.1935), played for Somerset Ladies cricket team, on account of being born in Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 20 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: There was a toll house at the western end of North Street which was known as the ‘gate on the way to Ashton’ - now known as Long Ashton....our stadium took its name from that toll house...hope that isn’t too boring for an 8 year old @hoxton casual... Thank you @BS4 on Tour... and everyone else. I have been going since 1972 and I never knew that. She will be delighted that all my "my Bristol City friends on the computer" have answered her question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Reigate Red said: This be it …. @Reigate Red. Do you know what year that photo was taken? 1910's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Leveller said: I think I’m right in saying that before 1832 the site of our ground (and all of Bristol south of the river) was in Somerset? Yes old maps show the boundary originality had AG in Somerset. It then moved to the other side of the Portishead railway line not to far from where it is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Bloody prawn sandwich brigade. Bovril brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hoxton casual said: @Reigate Red. Do you know what year that photo was taken? 1910's? Sorry Hoxton I got it from Paul Townsend's flikr page as mentioned by @TomF but it says date unknown. Anther photos of the Tollhouse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 hours ago, RedM said: Exactly, and as @Offsidesays above it was certainly a Bristol. The ‘stinky bones’ smell of my childhood living in Brislington and smelling the glue factory (?) wafting over from St Phillips I think it was? Back in the day the rich would escape the city and holiday here in Brislington, between Brislington and Keynsham as both were villages outside the boundary and countrified, hard to believe now with the traffic using the Bath Road. What about the Tannery in Phillip Street, I think it was RedM, a wonderful pongy smell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Erithacus said: Yup, the turnpike house was a gated entrance to the city's south west. The Ashmead map of 1828 shows a sturdy barrier across the road in front of the house shown above, with two separate gates. Interestingly, the toll house and the sturdy barrier were the first things that Tilly up in Clifton complained about ruining her view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Bemmy might have been incorporated in 1832, but as the land south of Luckwell Rd wasn't built on until the 1920s, that area might still have been Somerset until later. Anyone know? My nan (b. 1908) grew up in a cottage near where the pits were and she considered herself a Somerset girl, while my mum (b.1935), played for Somerset Ladies cricket team, on account of being born in Ashton. My Grandmother lived on a farm in Bishopsworth, that was all countryside in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 PS this is my favourite photo (I bought the actual print) but I have a no idea where the modern day equivalent is. Nonetheless Peaky Brummies have nothing on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Olé said: PS this is my favourite photo (I bought the actual print) but I have a no idea where the modern day equivalent is. Nonetheless Peaky Brummies have nothing on this. Is that the Star/Wedlock’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Fiale said: Also now we are going to go with 1884 as our foundation date - time for the South stand to be renamed The Bristol South End (as a nod to our past). Fiale - what web site is this from it looks interesting and I could lose an evening in that. Mind you I am not sure what use a gate and fence lying on the ground would be. Then again there is the issue of why a map maker would show a random collection of a single jigsaw piece and a deflated balloon on a row of streaky bacon rashers. I guess the past is a foreign country where they do things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, TomF said: Is that the Star/Wedlock’s? That's what I thought with the park back left but the lack of buildings to left and incline to the right makes me wonder. I bought an old 1940s book about Bristol pubs but it's not easy to tell which it was. Interesting side fact there were about 3 boozers on Greenway Bush Lane - I guess it was all bombed and rebuilt. BS3 was covered in pubs a century ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Fiale said: I am guessing it means the current stadium being a continual upgrade and built upon and not the grounds being in continual use as this is from 1902 (curtesy of @Threshing Red in a previous post). If the cricket was being played there, then the ground is a lot older than 1904 Bedminster played there in the late 1890's with bedminster cricket club. The ground was owned by an athletics company I think, which bristol city bought out when they merged with Bedminster. I think Bristol City redeveloped it around 1903-04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Olé said: PS this is my favourite photo (I bought the actual print) but I have a no idea where the modern day equivalent is. Nonetheless Peaky Brummies have nothing on this. I've seen a picture of the Cross Hands where it looked a bit like that. Extended greatly after its humble beginnings. If it is, one of those coves could be my great grandfather, who was its first licensee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Reigate Red said: Fiale - what web site is this from it looks interesting and I could lose an evening in that. Mind you I am not sure what use a gate and fence lying on the ground would be. Then again there is the issue of why a map maker would show a random collection of a single jigsaw piece and a deflated balloon on a row of streaky bacon rashers. I guess the past is a foreign country where they do things differently. It is this site (though it's changed a little now) http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition= The traffic would have to keep to the roads, and I think a act of parliament meant avoiding or damaging the gates would have you hauled to the magistrate who would deal with you there and then, in all likelihood in that era, that would ruin your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I believe that the ‘ ton ‘ part of a place name means ‘ town ‘ ? Learning Old English so this sort of stuff interests me. Ton/tun is where the word "town" comes from but it didn't mean that. A 'ton' would be the equivalent of a fenced hamlet or small village. A town would have been a variation of 'burg' or 'stowe', the latter is where Bristol gets its name. Bristol could have been Brycgstow (pronounced like bridge-sto) roughly meaning Bridge Place or Brycgstocirce (bridge-sto-church-er) meaning church bridge place or holy bridge place etc. That's my guess and not definitive btw! Edit: Ashton (æsctun) probably means "Ash Place" or "Ash Village", I imagine they had ash trees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 hours ago, RedM said: Exactly, and as @Offsidesays above it was certainly a Bristol. The ‘stinky bones’ smell of my childhood living in Brislington and smelling the glue factory (?) wafting over from St Phillips I think it was? Back in the day the rich would escape the city and holiday here in Brislington, between Brislington and Keynsham as both were villages outside the boundary and countrified, hard to believe now with the traffic using the Bath Road. - but more pleasant was the smell of Jam from the Robertson’s Factory. Now it’s a bloody Tesco’s supermarket!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Olé said: PS this is my favourite photo (I bought the actual print) but I have a no idea where the modern day equivalent is. Nonetheless Peaky Brummies have nothing on this. That's the new inn, it was hit by a bomb during the war killing some people including the landlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 59 minutes ago, TomF said: Is that the Star/Wedlock’s? oops as above Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: My Grandmother lived on a farm in Bishopsworth, that was all countryside in those days. My mum grew up on Pigeon House farm which was located beneath what is now the large roundabout on Hartcliffe Way/Hengrove Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, BobbyC said: Bovril brigade Good to see that we've invested well and have infrastructure ready for the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Reigate Red said: My mum grew up on Pigeon House farm which was located beneath what is now the large roundabout on Hartcliffe Way/Hengrove Way. The stream is still there (not sure if the stream, house, farm caused the naming of the area). But it's old, Seen maps mid 1800's with buildings on that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Hellfire Corner said: - but more pleasant was the smell of Jam from the Robertson’s Factory. Now it’s a bloody Tesco’s supermarket!! I was exactly between the bones/tannery and the jam factory, depending on which way the wind blew was the smell memories of my childhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Fiale said: So cricket was played at Adhtin Gate? I am guessing it means the current stadium being a continual upgrade and built upon and not the grounds being in continual use as this is from 1902 (curtesy of @Threshing Red in a previous post). If the cricket was being played there, then the ground is a lot older than 1904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Olé said: PS this is my favourite photo (I bought the actual print) but I have a no idea where the modern day equivalent is. Nonetheless Peaky Brummies have nothing on this. Great photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enclosure Old Timer Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, RedM said: I was exactly between the bones/tannery and the jam factory, depending on which way the wind blew was the smell memories of my childhood Could smell the tannery and the river with the tide out on a hot day from where I lived in Stackpool Road, but my favourite small was from Wyatt's chippy in Cannon Street when we came out of the Rex Cinema after kids matinee on Saturday mornings, Happy Days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Fiale said: That's the new inn, it was hit by a bomb during the war killing some people including the landlord. That was my first thought, The New In which was just up the A38 from the Cross Hands destroyed in the War. I’m Sure I’ve seen this picture on Facebook before and a person who posted it had a relative in this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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