robin_unreliant Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6757531/Premier-League-clubs-trail-15-year-old-Bristol-City-starlet-Prince-Derek-Henry.html Anyone seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 No but I hope for his sake that he isn't as injury prone as his cousin.... Actually whilst typing this reply, Sturridge has just broken down and is now out for another month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Sounds like this may be a case of being too promising? I'd rather get a couple of years of first team value than have them head off at 16/17 for a million or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Shouldn't he be signing for Reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Sounds like this may be a case of being too promising? I'd rather get a couple of years of first team value than have them head off at 16/17 for a million or so. Too promising too young is a familiar story. Unfortunately early promise doesn’t always translate into a successful career. Anyone remember Sean Penny, a City youth player from the early 70s? He was an England schoolboy international and City funded his education at Millfield school, but he never made it as an adult player. Lots of other examples - eg Marvin Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Shouldn't he be signing for Reading? Antwerp even better and then at the height of his career the whites of Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, Taz said: No but I hope for his sake that he isn't as injury prone as his cousin.... Actually whilst typing this reply, Sturridge has just broken down and is now out for another month Could never trust revolving doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 The athletic forward impressed scouts after scoring during Bristol City U18s' 3-0 win against Ipswich Town earlier this month and followed up with two more on Wednesday evening, this time for the club's U16s against local rivals Bristol Rovers in their 3-1 Gloucestershire FA Cup quarter final win. Will they ever beat us again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Too promising too young is a familiar story. Unfortunately early promise doesn’t always translate into a successful career. Anyone remember Sean Penny, a City youth player from the early 70s? He was an England schoolboy international and City funded his education at Millfield school, but he never made it as an adult player. Lots of other examples - eg Marvin Brown So that’s two then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: So that’s two then . Good arithmetic major. If anyone would care to review the promising academy players of the last 10 years, they would find that the number who didn’t make it is far greater than those who did. It doesn’t matter if only one in ten are successful as this pays for the academy. Prince may make it, but the odds are against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Too promising too young is a familiar story. Unfortunately early promise doesn’t always translate into a successful career. Anyone remember Sean Penny, a City youth player from the early 70s? He was an England schoolboy international and City funded his education at Millfield school, but he never made it as an adult player. Lots of other examples - eg Marvin Brown Shaun Penney's career went right down the plughole...he ended up at the Clampetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Shaun Penney's career went right down the plughole...he ended up at the Clampetts. It went so low he had to be marked by me a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: The athletic forward impressed scouts after scoring during Bristol City U18s' 3-0 win against Ipswich Town earlier this month and followed up with two more on Wednesday evening, this time for the club's U16s against local rivals Bristol Rovers in their 3-1 Gloucestershire FA Cup quarter final win. Will they ever beat us again?? Careful, I think they did last season at this level, albeit on penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: Shouldn't he be signing for Reading? If he is that good shouldn't he be playing for us. Love to see us try a teenage prodigy rather than keep talking about young players in their early twenties, or Eisa in his mid 20s. He might even be the magic player we've been crying out for to shoot us into The Prem! Instead will land up on loan to Weston, followed by six further seasons on loan, finishing at Newport on loan - if not sold to Chelsea aged 16. In both cases to disappear without trace. Play him now - if you are good enough you are old enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189thoughts Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Major Isewater said: So that’s two then . Tristan Plummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 This lad still with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, alexukhc said: This lad still with us? I believe he is. Tin man posted a vid of him back around March time doing keep ups but haven’t seen much else about him since those rumours in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 He never made the cut in my Football Manager 2020 save. My scouts kept giving me info on him and suggested I get him on loan but he wasn't ever any better than what I had. You're welcome for the in-depth insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 hours ago, TBW said: He never made the cut in my Football Manager 2020 save. My scouts kept giving me info on him and suggested I get him on loan but he wasn't ever any better than what I had. You're welcome for the in-depth insight. Strangely just started a new game myself, got to January and had to field off several offers of £750k for him - not tried playing him yet Dont remember this thread first time round only remember the one that turned into a classic about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 01/03/2019 at 16:52, Ivorguy said: If he is that good shouldn't he be playing for us. Love to see us try a teenage prodigy rather than keep talking about young players in their early twenties, or Eisa in his mid 20s. He might even be the magic player we've been crying out for to shoot us into The Prem! Instead will land up on loan to Weston, followed by six further seasons on loan, finishing at Newport on loan - if not sold to Chelsea aged 16. In both cases to disappear without trace. Play him now - if you are good enough you are old enough. Like marvin brown and Tristan plummer? Let's not get carried away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 01/03/2019 at 17:08, 189thoughts said: Tristan Plummer And Kevin Amanwaah. The headline was "Arsenal and United declare Waah!" It's all paper talk. Marvin Brown was the new Gazza / Cryuff if you believed the papers. All that they can be at that age is "promising" as there is a long way to go before they can cut it in the first team. To take another club's "nearly great" player you have Everton's Billy Kenny who was their biggest star young player before Rooney. https://taleoftwohalves.uk/columnist/billy-kenny-waste-talent Or Sonny Pike, snapped up as a kid by Ajax and featured on Fantasy Football League. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8632981/Sonny-Pike-one-Englands-young-footballers-London-cabbie.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: And Kevin Amanwaah. The headline was "Arsenal and United declare Waah!" It's all paper talk. Marvin Brown was the new Gazza / Cryuff if you believed the papers. All that they can be at that age is "promising" as there is a long way to go before they can cut it in the first team. To take another club's "nearly great" player you have Everton's Billy Kenny who was their biggest star young player before Rooney. https://taleoftwohalves.uk/columnist/billy-kenny-waste-talent Or Sonny Pike, snapped up as a kid by Ajax and featured on Fantasy Football League. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8632981/Sonny-Pike-one-Englands-young-footballers-London-cabbie.html Absolutely agree. I remember reading a piece of analysis someone had done which basically concluded everyone gets excited about players from 15 - 18 but it's not really until about the age of twenty-one you really get a clear picture on how good someone will be because of the impact of factors like attitude, physical development, work ethic and the fact that some people excel in schoolboy and under-18 football because of their aptitude but then struggle to adapt their game for playing against players that have similar levels of talent to themselves. It's great we have excited fifteen and sixteen year olds in the system but, if someone did want to give us a million or two for player of that age, it's probably worth our while to take the money as the promising youngsters who fail far outnumber those who succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: And Kevin Amanwaah. The headline was "Arsenal and United declare Waah!" It's all paper talk. Marvin Brown was the new Gazza / Cryuff if you believed the papers. All that they can be at that age is "promising" as there is a long way to go before they can cut it in the first team. To take another club's "nearly great" player you have Everton's Billy Kenny who was their biggest star young player before Rooney. https://taleoftwohalves.uk/columnist/billy-kenny-waste-talent Or Sonny Pike, snapped up as a kid by Ajax and featured on Fantasy Football League. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8632981/Sonny-Pike-one-Englands-young-footballers-London-cabbie.html Wasn't Amankwaah involved in a bad car crash ? Put him out for quite a while if i remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Wasn't Amankwaah involved in a bad car crash ? Put him out for quite a while if i remember. Yes he was, or some other accident which really put his career back. It's more that as @LondonBristolian said it is more common for really bright prospects to go nowhere than for them all to turn into top class players. I can only offhand think of the half dozen Man Utd players who came through at about the same time in the early 90s as the exception to this. Just to credit the lad in the OP it is great that he is playing sufficiently well at this age to have attracted premiership scouts but with incredibly rare exceptions (Rooney, Maradona) they remain simply very good prospects at that age rather than already being great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Joe Royle was City Royalty. One of several successors to King John Atyeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 I played against Amankwah when he was probably 17/18, I was 29/30. I was playing up top, and pretty capable using my “belly” to hold off oppositions CBs. Thought I’d be able to ease KA around. He absolutely battered me on the first challenge, cleanly though. Odejayi played against us too that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said: Yes he was, or some other accident which really put his career back. It's more that as @LondonBristolian said it is more common for really bright prospects to go nowhere than for them all to turn into top class players. I can only offhand think of the half dozen Man Utd players who came through at about the same time in the early 90s as the exception to this. Just to credit the lad in the OP it is great that he is playing sufficiently well at this age to have attracted premiership scouts but with incredibly rare exceptions (Rooney, Maradona) they remain simply very good prospects at that age rather than already being great players. Broken Neck In A Car Accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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