42nite Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 If already covered, please delete. Just heard of the rule change for next season. If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given. That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce. Good move in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Don’t agree with this at all. Why the sudden need to change all of the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, 42nite said: If already covered, please delete. Just heard of the rule change for next season. If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given. That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce. Good move in my opinion. It all sounds a bit silly to me, that’s not how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, 42nite said: If already covered, please delete. Just heard of the rule change for next season. If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given. That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce. Good move in my opinion. What if the ball goes in off the post..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Strange one...I guess you'll have players stood ready for a quick goal kick to be taken. Just the penalty taker out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This thread 4 weeks too early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: What if the ball goes in off the post..? After hitting the keeper first..? Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpin Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, italian dave said: After hitting the keeper first..? Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! Will be the same as today in a penalty shootout. Once the ball stops moving the penalty is over . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, downendcity said: Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! Its definitely par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 What happens if the keeper gets his fingertips to it and turns it around the post? Goal kick or corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRider1984 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Its definitely par for the course. Well its certainly a Fair way of sorting the encroachment issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, DayRider1984 said: Well its certainly a Fair way of sorting the encroachment issue. Will it affect all clubs..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, DayRider1984 said: Well its certainly a Fair way of sorting the encroachment issue. Sounds a bit rough to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitchurch1966 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 If referee's enforced the encroachment rules that are in place now then it would stop encroachment, I think they are worried that every penalty taken will have to be re-taken when they start using VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 5, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 42nite said: If already covered, please delete. Just heard of the rule change for next season. If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given. That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce. Good move in my opinion. Is this ACTUALLY happening ? I have a feeling it was a misquoted story? The only rule changes I can see for next season: 1. Accidental handball goal won't stand Goals scored which have hit a player's hand, deliberate or not, will no longer stand. Gallagher said of the change: "It will be significant as we will no longer see a goal scored hitting the arm. "80 per cent of the handballs that referees give are not deliberate, but because a player gains a material advantage. Taking the word deliberate out will eradicate that." Some ambiguity remains and Gallagher added: "We will still have the problem of asking 'has he made himself bigger, has he put his arms in an unnatural position?' "There will still be the arm close to the body that will hit the arm and the referee will deny a penalty." 2. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point. 3. No attacking players in the wall This rule prohibits attacking players standing in the wall when a free-kick is being taken, a tactic increasingly employed in recent years. Attackers will be made to stand at least one metre from the wall, and is aimed at stopping defenders being moved out of the way, such as Alexandre Lacazette's free-kick for Arsenal in their recent game against Bournemouth. In another change, goalkeepers will only have to have one foot on the line at penalties. The amendment is aimed at allowing keepers to react to takers who stutter their run ups and making it easier for referees to officiate. Goal kicks and free kicks in the area for defending teams will no longer have to leave the area before they can be played at. Elleray says this is aimed at speeding the game up. This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 And of course you don't have to shoot at goal from a penalty. Passes have been made in the past, is that now outlawed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, italian dave said: After hitting the keeper first..? Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! Basically its the same as a shoot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince82 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I have read that the new penalty proposal is just that, a proposal, and those particular rules will now not be changing. Other changes will however be coming into force https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11655143/football-rules-how-will-new-ifab-laws-affect-the-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Will it affect all clubs..? Only those in driving range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, phantom said: Is this ACTUALLY happening ? I have a feeling it was a misquoted story? New law changes revealed by IFAB over the weekend concentrate on five rules which could drastically affect key areas of the game. Deliberate handball? Attackers in a wall for a free-kick? What are the new rules and how significant are they? Former Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher explained to Sky Sports News how the new regulations could affect the top leagues from June 1. 1. Accidental handball goal won't stand Goals scored which have hit a player's hand, deliberate or not, will no longer stand. Gallagher said of the change: "It will be significant as we will no longer see a goal scored hitting the arm. "80 per cent of the handballs that referees give are not deliberate, but because a player gains a material advantage. Taking the word deliberate out will eradicate that." Some ambiguity remains and Gallagher added: "We will still have the problem of asking 'has he made himself bigger, has he put his arms in an unnatural position?' "There will still be the arm close to the body that will hit the arm and the referee will deny a penalty." 2. No rebounds from penalties One of the changes Gallagher believes will have a big bearing on how we look at football is play stopping for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post. This means players will no longer line up on the edge of the area or attempt a rebound. Gallagher said: "We've seen Manchester United's Paul Pogba this year score a penalty from his own rebound and on Saturday the Arsenal penalty was saved and the players chased it down and the ball was still alive. "Now if it hits the post or the goalkeeper saves and it comes back out to the forward, the game will be stopped, there'll be no second chance." 3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point. Gallagher said: "Some of the teams hanging on in the past have made a substitute when they are the furthest player from the technical area. This will no longer apply. "Whether they decide to go to the nearest point remains to be seen, but it's up to the referee to invoke that." 4. No attacking players in the wall This rule prohibits attacking players standing in the wall when a free-kick is being taken, a tactic increasingly employed in recent years. Attackers will be made to stand at least one metre from the wall, and is aimed at stopping defenders being moved out of the way, such as Alexandre Lacazette's free-kick for Arsenal in their recent game against Bournemouth. 5. Coaches will receive cards Currently, coaches only receive verbal warnings for misconduct, but the change will see them receiving yellows and reds as players do. It will likely be similar to the EFL law adopted last year, where managers can also receive a one-game suspension. Nuno Espirito Santo's eccentric touchline celebration for Wolves' 4-3 win against Leicester could be a yellow card from next season. (c) Sky News 2019: Football rules: How will new IFAB laws affect the game? I heard it on the news this morning, and just found this. Looks legit to me???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 No need to update fatty Tomlin, there's no rule change for penalties clearing the bar by 20 feet .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince82 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 That sky sports page that is quoted has since been updated to include... This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, redsince82 said: That sky sports page that is quoted has since been updated to include... This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect. Ah right, sorry guys my mistake. Cross Classic FM News off my list then. Probably Classic FM as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! Got any links ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Red Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, italian dave said: After hitting the keeper first..? Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! Based on the stupidity of this all, they'll probably award a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 A penalty is just a free kick - the only difference is that the penalty kick is awarded for offences committed inside the penalty area. The ball is in play once a free kick is taken, and remains in play from then, whether it hits the post or keeper and remains in play until another offence is committed or until the ball goes out of play. If this is being considered because of concerns about player encroachment then what are the officials there for? Goaline technology can tell them whether the ball has crossed the line, and top flight football will soon have VAR that can dress this as well, so what are the ref and linesman watching for when a penalty is taken? With VAR coming this sound like the thin end of the wedge as far as interfering with the laws of the game. In the last 10-15 years we have seen the gradual elimination of tackling, and because of referees naivety almost any physical contact is now deemed a foul, if not a bookable offence. VAR will create a different type of game, as I can see referees being almost forced to review almost every decision in and around the penalty area under pressure from clubs and managers once mistaken decisions are highlighted. Messing about with penalties will be yet another decision that will change the free flow and ebb and flow of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Got any links ? No, it was off the cuff comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I would rather miss the "YYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.....oh...whoa...no...oh....YYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS" that comes when your keeper saves a penalty, followed by a goalmouth scramble, followed by your defender finally hoofing the ball to safety. One of the great noises of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This would have been an awful rule change, as it heavily favours the defensive side. In the Spurs - Arsenal game on the weekend it was a Spurs defender who was about 5 yards in the box as the penalty was taken, which allowed him to clear the follow up for a corner. Now, under this proposal, to prevent encroachment it will automatically be a goal kick removing any chance of a player for the attacking side getting the rebound, and also denying them the potential set pieceif it was a defending player who got there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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