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Just heard of the rule change for next season.

If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given.

 

That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce.

Good move in my opinion.

 

 

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Don’t agree with this at all. Why the sudden need to change all of the rules?

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39 minutes ago, 42nite said:

If already covered, please delete.

Just heard of the rule change for next season.

If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given.

 

That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce.

Good move in my opinion.

 

 

It all sounds a bit silly to me, that’s not how it works. 

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50 minutes ago, 42nite said:

If already covered, please delete.

Just heard of the rule change for next season.

If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given.

 

That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce.

Good move in my opinion.

 

 

What if the ball goes in off the post..?

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Strange one...I guess you'll have players stood ready for a quick goal kick to be taken. Just the penalty taker out of position.

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6 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

What if the ball goes in off the post..?

After hitting the keeper first..?

Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! 

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3 minutes ago, italian dave said:

After hitting the keeper first..?

Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! 

Will be the same as today in a penalty shootout. Once the ball stops moving the penalty is over .

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Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! :(

 

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7 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! :(

 

Its definitely par for the course.

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3 minutes ago, DayRider1984 said:

Well its certainly a Fair way of sorting the encroachment issue.

Will it affect all clubs..?

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If referee's enforced the encroachment rules that are in place now then it would stop encroachment, I think they are worried that every penalty taken will have to be re-taken when they start using VAR.

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1 hour ago, 42nite said:

If already covered, please delete.

Just heard of the rule change for next season.

If the penalty kick hits the post or rebounds off the keeper, goal kick is given.

 

That's one way of putting an end to the encroachment farce.

Good move in my opinion.

 

 

Is this ACTUALLY happening ?

I have a feeling it was a misquoted story?

The only rule changes I can see for next season:

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
Goals scored which have hit a player's hand, deliberate or not, will no longer stand.

Gallagher said of the change: "It will be significant as we will no longer see a goal scored hitting the arm.

"80 per cent of the handballs that referees give are not deliberate, but because a player gains a material advantage. Taking the word deliberate out will eradicate that."

Some ambiguity remains and Gallagher added: "We will still have the problem of asking 'has he made himself bigger, has he put his arms in an unnatural position?'

"There will still be the arm close to the body that will hit the arm and the referee will deny a penalty."

2. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point.

3. No attacking players in the wall
This rule prohibits attacking players standing in the wall when a free-kick is being taken, a tactic increasingly employed in recent years.

Attackers will be made to stand at least one metre from the wall, and is aimed at stopping defenders being moved out of the way, such as Alexandre Lacazette's free-kick for Arsenal in their recent game against Bournemouth.

In another change, goalkeepers will only have to have one foot on the line at penalties. The amendment is aimed at allowing keepers to react to takers who stutter their run ups and making it easier for referees to officiate.

Goal kicks and free kicks in the area for defending teams will no longer have to leave the area before they can be played at. Elleray says this is aimed at speeding the game up.

This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect.

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1 hour ago, italian dave said:

After hitting the keeper first..?

Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! 

Basically its the same as a shoot out. 

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46 minutes ago, phantom said:

Is this ACTUALLY happening ?

I have a feeling it was a misquoted story?

 

New law changes revealed by IFAB over the weekend concentrate on five rules which could drastically affect key areas of the game.

 

Deliberate handball? Attackers in a wall for a free-kick? What are the new rules and how significant are they?

 

Former Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher explained to Sky Sports News how the new regulations could affect the top leagues from June 1.

1. Accidental handball goal won't stand
Goals scored which have hit a player's hand, deliberate or not, will no longer stand.

Gallagher said of the change: "It will be significant as we will no longer see a goal scored hitting the arm.

"80 per cent of the handballs that referees give are not deliberate, but because a player gains a material advantage. Taking the word deliberate out will eradicate that."

Some ambiguity remains and Gallagher added: "We will still have the problem of asking 'has he made himself bigger, has he put his arms in an unnatural position?'

"There will still be the arm close to the body that will hit the arm and the referee will deny a penalty."

2. No rebounds from penalties
One of the changes Gallagher believes will have a big bearing on how we look at football is play stopping for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post.

This means players will no longer line up on the edge of the area or attempt a rebound.

Gallagher said: "We've seen Manchester United's Paul Pogba this year score a penalty from his own rebound and on Saturday the Arsenal penalty was saved and the players chased it down and the ball was still alive.

"Now if it hits the post or the goalkeeper saves and it comes back out to the forward, the game will be stopped, there'll be no second chance."

3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere
To stop time-wasting, when a player is taken off they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and can leave the pitch at the nearest point.

Gallagher said: "Some of the teams hanging on in the past have made a substitute when they are the furthest player from the technical area. This will no longer apply.

"Whether they decide to go to the nearest point remains to be seen, but it's up to the referee to invoke that."

4. No attacking players in the wall
This rule prohibits attacking players standing in the wall when a free-kick is being taken, a tactic increasingly employed in recent years.

Attackers will be made to stand at least one metre from the wall, and is aimed at stopping defenders being moved out of the way, such as Alexandre Lacazette's free-kick for Arsenal in their recent game against Bournemouth.

5. Coaches will receive cards
Currently, coaches only receive verbal warnings for misconduct, but the change will see them receiving yellows and reds as players do.

It will likely be similar to the EFL law adopted last year, where managers can also receive a one-game suspension.

Nuno Espirito Santo's eccentric touchline celebration for Wolves' 4-3 win against Leicester could be a yellow card from next season.

(c) Sky News 2019: Football rules: How will new IFAB laws affect the game?

 

 

I heard it on the news this morning, and just found this.

Looks legit to me????

 

 

 

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That sky sports page that is quoted has since been updated to include...

 

This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect.

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2 minutes ago, redsince82 said:

That sky sports page that is quoted has since been updated to include...

 

This is an updated and corrected version of this article. The first edition mistakenly referred to a rule in relation to penalties which will not come into effect.

 

Ah right,  sorry guys my mistake.  🙄

Cross Classic FM News off my list then. 

Probably Classic FM as well!

😏

  

 

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2 hours ago, italian dave said:

After hitting the keeper first..?

Or, hits the post, bounces out, hits the keeper and goes in! 

Based on the stupidity of this all, they'll probably award a corner

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A penalty is just a free kick - the only difference is that the penalty kick is awarded for offences committed inside the penalty area.

The ball is in play once a free kick is taken, and remains in play from then, whether it hits the post or keeper and remains in play until another offence is committed or until the ball goes out of play.

If this is being considered because of concerns about player encroachment then what are the officials there for? Goaline technology can tell them whether the ball has crossed the line, and top flight football will soon have VAR that can dress this as well, so what are the ref and linesman watching for when a penalty is taken?

With VAR coming this sound like the thin end of the wedge as far as interfering with the laws of the game. In the last 10-15 years we have seen the gradual elimination of tackling, and because of referees naivety almost any physical contact is now deemed a foul, if not a bookable offence. VAR will create a different type of game, as I can see referees being almost forced to review almost every decision in and around the penalty area under pressure from clubs and managers once mistaken decisions are highlighted. 

Messing about with penalties will be yet another decision that will change the free flow and ebb and flow of the  game.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Got any links ?

No, it was off the cuff comment! :)

 

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I would rather miss the "YYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.....oh...whoa...no...oh....YYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS"  that comes when your keeper saves a penalty, followed by a goalmouth scramble, followed by your defender finally hoofing the ball to safety.  One of the great noises of the game.

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This would have been an awful rule change, as it heavily favours the defensive side.

In the Spurs - Arsenal game on the weekend it was a Spurs defender who was about 5 yards in the box as the penalty was taken, which allowed him to clear the follow up for a corner.

 

Now, under this proposal, to prevent encroachment it will automatically be a goal kick removing any chance of a player for the attacking side getting the rebound, and also denying them the potential set pieceif it was a defending player who got there first.

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2 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said:

And of course you don't have to shoot at goal from a penalty. Passes have been made in the past, is that now outlawed? 

 

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52 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I would rather miss the "YYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.....oh...whoa...no...oh....YYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS"  that comes when your keeper saves a penalty, followed by a goalmouth scramble, followed by your defender finally hoofing the ball to safety.  One of the great noises of the game.

I quite like the other side of it (providing it doesn't happen to us). Keeper saves it, fans cheer, player tucks in the rebound, other fans cheer. 

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9 minutes ago, MC26 said:

I quite like the other side of it (providing it doesn't happen to us). Keeper saves it, fans cheer, player tucks in the rebound, other fans cheer. 

Yeah that’s a good one too!

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The one that gets on my nerves is the keeper being able to retake a goal kick if it doesn't go outside of the Area. Should be a free kick to the opposition if it happens.

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3 hours ago, Whitchurch1966 said:

If referee's enforced the encroachment rules that are in place now then it would stop encroachment, I think they are worried that every penalty taken will have to be re-taken when they start using VAR.

Or planning for the all the extra penalties that will probably be awarded using VAR.

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All they have to do if worried about encroachment, is bring in a law that the non penalty taking players (bar the defending keeper) have to be ten yards further back from the penalty area. I.E. 28 yards away from the goal. They could even use their fancy spray to mark a guide line.

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10 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

All they have to do if worried about encroachment, is bring in a law that the non penalty taking players (bar the defending keeper) have to be ten yards further back from the penalty area. I.E. 28 yards away from the goal. They could even use their fancy spray to mark a guide line.

It’s taken me the best part of a day to come up with the solution and you beat me to it by 7 minutes.

 

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1 hour ago, Super said:

The one that gets on my nerves is the keeper being able to retake a goal kick if it doesn't go outside of the Area. Should be a free kick to the opposition if it happens.

I've always wondered why more teams don't use this as a time-wasting tool. 

They could waste a good minute on each kick by accidentally receiving the kick inside the box a couple of times, and playing on for a bit until they finally realise the ref has stopped play... 

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One of the most exciting ends to a game in recent memory wouldn't happen under this rule. 

A friend of mine was at uni with a Leicester fan during this and he filmed his reaction from the penality onwards. I would of missed that piece of comedy gold as well.

Not a fan!

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7 minutes ago, underhanded said:

One of the most exciting ends to a game in recent memory wouldn't happen under this rule. 

A friend of mine was at uni with a Leicester fan during this and he filmed his reaction from the penality onwards. I would of missed that piece of comedy gold as well.

Not a fan!

Absolutely. I remember watching that and I didn't really care who won but I was screaming OMG!  Amazing.

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18 minutes ago, underhanded said:

One of the most exciting ends to a game in recent memory wouldn't happen under this rule. 

A friend of mine was at uni with a Leicester fan during this and he filmed his reaction from the penality onwards. I would of missed that piece of comedy gold as well.

Not a fan!

Not a fan either.

When a free kick is taken, the ball is then in play and subject to the normal laws of the game until either another offence is committed, the ball goes out of play by crossing the side or goal lines or the ref blows for half time or full time. A penalty is just a free kick awarded for an offence inside the penalty area, so how can the way it is taken, and what happens thereafter, be regarded and treated differently from a  free kick anywhere else on the pitch?

Under this proposal, to award a kick to the defending team on the 6 yard line seems to indicate that hitting the post or the keeper means the ball has been deemed to have gone out of play - which it hasn't - or that the attacking team has been penalised - but for what? 

This just seems to be the latest way ( after VAR) for the rule makers to stop the free flowing nature of football - perhaps they just want to create more situations on which the pundits can pontificate or to create breaks in play for advertisers to plug their wares.

What joker came up with that hair brained idea? 

 

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6 hours ago, downendcity said:

Seems to me that they have bought in the chaps who changed loads of the rules of golf to do the same for football! :(

 

Fore! kennel.

 

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