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1 hour ago, shelts said:

Plenty of empty seats in the south stand and spotted a few Leeds supporters in amongst us

The game sold all available tickets so those are clearly STH unable to attend.

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1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

A lot of money spent to raise the capacity by 3k

3k?

Please do some research and let us know the last time the old Ashton Gate had a crowd of 21.8k.

And the redevelopment is quite clearly about a lot more than simply adding capacity.

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Any mathematicians out there who can answer this question.

  • As far as I know the capacity of the redeveloped Ashton Gate is supposed to be 27,000.
  • The Atyeo  today had 2,700 Leeds fans leaving  1,200 unsold seats for safety reasons (that's another story)
  • All other seats were SOLD OUT.
  • So why wasn't the attendance 25,800 ?
  • Where are the missing 1,000  seats  if todays attendance was 24,800? 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said:

Any mathematicians out there who can answer this question.

  • As far as I know the capacity of the redeveloped Ashton Gate is supposed to be 27,000.
  • The Atyeo  today had 2,700 Leeds fans leaving  1,200 unsold seats for safety reasons (that's another story)
  • All other seats were SOLD OUT.
  • So why wasn't the attendance 25,800 ?
  • Where are the missing 1,000  seats  if todays attendance was 24,800? 

 

 

Capacity 27,699

Atyeo 4,200

Home area 23,499

Leeds 2,600

Total 26,099

Less 1,299 segregation ?

Actual 24,800

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6 minutes ago, MattWSM said:

Capacity 27,699

Atyeo 4,200

Home area 23,499

Leeds 2,600

Total 26,099

Less 1,299 segregation ?

Actual 24,800

Segregation for what? They already gave up a third or more of the Atyeo ffs. The club obviously not that interested in maximising income

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Additional 1,299 segregation ?

There was already very substantial segregation by the fact that the Atyeo had about 1,200 seats covered by black tarpaulin so fans couldn't sit near the pitch .

Dolman Block A seemed to be sold out so where are the additional 1,299 segregated seats?

Something is not right . Should have been able to sell  25,800 tickets allowing for 1,200 unsold in the Atyeo.

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18 minutes ago, MattWSM said:

Capacity 27,699

Atyeo 4,200

Home area 23,499

Leeds 2,600

Total 26,099

Less 1,299 segregation ?

Actual 24,800

You’ve deducted the segregation twice (Leeds allocation).

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

You’ve deducted the segregation twice (Leeds allocation).

I know that's why I put a question mark. Who knows where the missing 1299 is

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7 minutes ago, dave36 said:

25000 + too often and bristol sport are in danger of having to fund parking provision in BS3

Definitely. No way was there that many empty seats today taking into account that they include season ticket no shows.

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3 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

3k?

Please do some research and let us know the last time the old Ashton Gate had a crowd of 21.8k.

And the redevelopment is quite clearly about a lot more than simply adding capacity.

bristol bath no segregation.

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4 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

3k?

Please do some research and let us know the last time the old Ashton Gate had a crowd of 21.8k.

And the redevelopment is quite clearly about a lot more than simply adding capacity.

The point he is making is that before re development, the capacity was 21,500 but we only ever had 19,500 due to segregation etc. Today's gate, at "capacity"  was 24,800 making a difference of 3,300. His theory is flawed, as he is taking the lower figure at number of seats, and the higher at allowed capacity, but that's where the 3,000 comes from. 

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3 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

The point he is making is that before re development, the capacity was 21,500 but we only ever had 19,500 due to segregation etc. Today's gate, at "capacity"  was 24,800 making a difference of 3,300. His theory is flawed, as he is taking the lower figure at allowed capacity, and the higher at actual number of seats, but that's where the 3,000 comes from. 

I know, the point I am making is that his 3,000 figure is flawed for the very reasons you’ve just explained!

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Why are people bothered..?! 

Obviously they would sell as many tickets as possible. 

If its “sold out” they obviously can’t sell any more. What’s the conspiracy..?!  

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3 hours ago, Marlborough Red said:

Additional 1,299 segregation ?

There was already very substantial segregation by the fact that the Atyeo had about 1,200 seats covered by black tarpaulin so fans couldn't sit near the pitch .

Dolman Block A seemed to be sold out so where are the additional 1,299 segregated seats?

Something is not right . Should have been able to sell  25,800 tickets allowing for 1,200 unsold in the Atyeo.

1,500 or so unsold in Atyeo.

Plus remember that areas with tolerated persistent standing get a 10% reduction- so you knock 10% off S82/Singing Section.

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7 hours ago, Maltshoveller said:

And your point?

 

old stadium more than football could host (my point)

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Leeds only had 1300

12 hours ago, Marlborough Red said:

Any mathematicians out there who can answer this question.

  • As far as I know the capacity of the redeveloped Ashton Gate is supposed to be 27,000.
  • The Atyeo  today had 2,700 Leeds fans leaving  1,200 unsold seats for safety reasons (that's another story)
  • All other seats were SOLD OUT.
  • So why wasn't the attendance 25,800 ?
  • Where are the missing 1,000  seats  if todays attendance was 24,800? 

 

 

Capacity is actually supposed to be 27,699, the Atyeo hold 4,200, but Leeds only had 1,300 in there. Hence 2,900 short of capacity = 24,800.

Would have made more sense to open part of the Atyeo for home fans and have the netting between them. Why we needed multiple rows of netting at the front I have no idea. You don't see that at other games, e.g. Palace V Brighton from yesterday just had one section netted to separate home & away fans.

 

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9 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Why are people bothered..?! 

Obviously they would sell as many tickets as possible. 

If its “sold out” they obviously can’t sell any more. What’s the conspiracy..?!  

that 9/11 was an inside job. 

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30 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Leeds only had 1300

Capacity is actually supposed to be 27,699, the Atyeo hold 4,200, but Leeds only had 1,300 in there. Hence 2,900 short of capacity = 24,800.

Would have made more sense to open part of the Atyeo for home fans and have the netting between them. Why we needed multiple rows of netting at the front I have no idea. You don't see that at other games, e.g. Palace V Brighton from yesterday just had one section netted to separate home & away fans.

 

Leeds had 2,600.

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24 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Well, if that is the case that would suggest 1300 seats not sold in the other 3 stands?

That’s the bit that’s not clear. But we do know that Leeds had 2600. And we also know the game was officially a “sell out”.

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24 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Well, if that is the case that would suggest 1300 seats not sold in the other 3 stands?

 

2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

That’s the bit that’s not clear. But we do know that Leeds had 2600.

I think it’s quite simple....it was advertised as being sold out but it wasn’t...24,800 ish tickets were sold for the game, including season tickets. Not all of those 24,800 turned up, but the attendance figures given out on the day of the games represent the number of tickets sold, not the number of people who turned up for the game. 

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26 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

 

I think it’s quite simple....it was advertised as being sold out but it wasn’t...24,800 ish tickets were sold for the game, including season tickets. Not all of those 24,800 turned up, but the attendance figures given out on the day of the games represent the number of tickets sold, not the number of people who turned up for the game. 

Why would they say it was a sell out if it wasn’t?

The mystery is that even allowing for Leeds reduced allocation, a “sell out” should have meant 27k less 1.4k not sold in the Atyeo, which would be 25.6k-ish. So where did the other 800-odd tickets go?

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Exactly my point. 

How can a complete sell out in a 27,000 stadium with only about 1.4 k not on sale due to segregation in the Atyeo ,result in an attendance of only 24,800 ?

No tickets were on sale for POTD with staff saying it's completely SOLD OUT.

Despite 36 posts on this topic still haven't seen an explanation for the missing 800 to 1,000 tickets .

 

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So our real capacity is not 27000 as away teams cannot have all of the Atty ? So in the Premiership we would remove those seats ? No point in having them if you cannot use them.

AG is not a 27000 capacity it is a 25500 stadium then ?

Or was that due to the issues against Swansea ? So the club need to adapt the segregation between the stands ? As for the other missing 800 to 1000 , god knows , we have had decades of BCFC mystery crowd numbers vs capacity . What is clear, we do not have a 27000 useable capacity. 

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Why would they say it was a sell out if it wasn’t?

The mystery is that even allowing for Leeds reduced allocation, a “sell out” should have meant 27k less 1.4k not sold in the Atyeo, which would be 25.6k-ish. So where did the other 800-odd tickets go?

 

30 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said:

Exactly my point. 

How can a complete sell out in a 27,000 stadium with only about 1.4 k not on sale due to segregation in the Atyeo ,result in an attendance of only 24,800 ?

No tickets were on sale for POTD with staff saying it's completely SOLD OUT.

Despite 36 posts on this topic still haven't seen an explanation for the missing 800 to 1,000 tickets .

 

I agree....it would be good to get an explanation - our ‘sold out’ figure yesterday should have been 26,099....that’s the capacity of the ground (27,699) less the 1,600 seats that were ‘segregated off’ in the Atyeo Stand. The Atyeo holds 4,200 but only 2,600 Leeds fans were in there...so there were only 1,600 unsold tickets in the whole stadium, according to the club. So how they manage to announce 24,800 instead of 26,099 is a mystery....where did the other 1,299 tickets go?!

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27,000 capacity.

Knock off 1,500 for away end as Leeds allocation was around 2,700.

Knock off 10% of s82 as per rules over persistent standing.

Knock off ST holders who don't tend to show up, which happens at all clubs- people have holidays and life etc.

Then knock off Leeds  fans who were ejected at the turnstiles on detection- those tickets would not have been resold, whereas the ones refunded earlier in the week would have been!

Now it doesn't give the whole picture, but it helps align it more with the published attendance.

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The thread on championship attendance % in the week said our full capacity is now 26459 (a previous quote from the OS).

If the Atyeo holds approx 4200 and Leeds only had 2600 that makes 1600 seats not used. 26459 minus 1600 equals 24859 so 24800 sounds about right. 

We had 26088 v Man United - less seats unused in the Atyeo (home fans in there too).

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Knock off ST holders who don't tend to show up, which happens at all clubs- people have holidays and life etc.

All ST holders would have been included in the attendance figure, regardless of if they attended or not...

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4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

All ST holders would have been included in the attendance figure, regardless of if they attended or not...

Correct

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

27,000 capacity.

Knock off 1,500 for away end as Leeds allocation was around 2,700.

Knock off 10% of s82 as per rules over persistent standing.

Knock off ST holders who don't tend to show up, which happens at all clubs- people have holidays and life etc.

Then knock off Leeds  fans who were ejected at the turnstiles on detection- those tickets would not have been resold, whereas the ones refunded earlier in the week would have been!

Now it doesn't give the whole picture, but it helps align it more with the published attendance.

.....and isn’t our capacity 27,699? There are so many conflicting numbers flying around! 

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The paste below is from the OS. So would expect this to be accurate.  

 

THURSDAY, MAY 4TH 2017 The attendance for City’s Sky Bet Championship final day clash with Birmingham City will be the largest league crowd at Ashton Gate in 37 years. Not since the Division One days of 1979/80 has a league fixture in BS3 attracted so many supporters to City’s home. At present the crowd for Sunday’s season finale has eclipsed the 25,000-mark. That leaves just under 300 tickets left available before the club put up the sold out signs. The fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate has a seated capacity of just over 26,459, but a number of safety restrictions have been placed on Sunday’s fixture.

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5 minutes ago, Homer Simpson said:

The paste below is from the OS. So would expect this to be accurate.  

 

THURSDAY, MAY 4TH 2017 The attendance for City’s Sky Bet Championship final day clash with Birmingham City will be the largest league crowd at Ashton Gate in 37 years. Not since the Division One days of 1979/80 has a league fixture in BS3 attracted so many supporters to City’s home. At present the crowd for Sunday’s season finale has eclipsed the 25,000-mark. That leaves just under 300 tickets left available before the club put up the sold out signs. The fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate has a seated capacity of just over 26,459, but a number of safety restrictions have been placed on Sunday’s fixture.

What does just over 26459 mean? 26460? 26461? 🤣 

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33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

What does just over 26459 mean? 26460? 26461? 🤣 

Yes I noticed that too and it made me chuckle. Let’s round it up and say our capacity is ‘about 26500’! 

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