Marlborough Red Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Do the boys in blue ever learn.? Why weren't the Leeds fans held back yesterday for 10 minutes to allow City fans to exit first ? The recent Swansea match caused crowd control issues and I would have hoped the Police would have learned from this. Yesterday the Leeds fans were allowed to leave immediately at the end of the match. I left the Lansdown and walked towards Ashton Park . Stewards initially kept us to the left separating us from rowdy exciting Leeds fans but as soon as we got to "Wedlocks " we immediately came together with the Leeds fans I saw one middle aged man have his City hat grabbed and taken , luckily he didn't react but the situation was volatile and could easily have kicked off. Fortunately the heavy police presence seemed to stop any trouble from flaring up but crowd control could surely have been improved if the Leeds fans exit was delayed by a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Yes, it's odd they don't keep them in for a few minutes. A very simple form of crowd control. Maybe the rozzers are hoping it kicks off so they can have a ruck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Domingo Roldan Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 The constabularly & all associated with them are thick. It really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 It's rarely done anywhere now, and probably with good reason. Firstly, it doesn't work. Just allows the home team's idiots time to gather, and means that when they do come out it's en masse, wound up, etc. I guess, better to allow both sets to drift out, stopping for a pee and so on. Secondly, and I'd certainly be on board with this one, I'm fed up of every fan being treated like a potential lout, criminal whatever, just because a small minority are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 It's possibly been established on here before, but you aren't really allowed to unless it is pre planned and notified etc- some kind of court case a while back set a precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 I think one bobble hat pinched is a result for Avon & Somerset; they've had worse days, as we all know and have seen. I reckon the chief super will "set us up" the same, Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 There were definitelythings going on after the final whistle yesterday, people getting separated outside Al's tikka grill and then punches thrown outside the tobacco factory. No idea what it was all about, and I'm not claiming that it was big trouble, but again (after their performance at Swansea game) makes me think A&S police aren't very good at what they do Do they not remember any of the lessons learned, which helped to calm the trouble in the 80s and 90s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Moments of Pleasure said: I think one bobble hat pinched is a result for Avon & Somerset; they've had worse days, as we all know and have seen. I reckon the chief super will "set us up" the same, Tuesday. Heard the Chief Super is a bit of a tinkerman, so expect changes to formation and personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Moments of Pleasure said: think one bobble hat pinched is a result for Avon & Somerset; Don't they wear helmets anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 You do know it’s the club decision not the police on holding fans back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Posset red said: You do know it’s the club decision not the police on holding fans back I'm sure if the police advised keeping the fans back the club would heed that advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 The police requested they did against Swansea and they didn’t all they can do it advise the decision comes down to the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Dickie Rooks Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 They don't care about you simple as that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Posset red said: The police requested they did against Swansea and they didn’t all they can do it advise the decision comes down to the club @JulieH Is the above correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, East End Old Boy said: @JulieH Is the above correct? No it is not correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Surely the club can't prevent you from leaving. How could it be their decision at any time? Same with Tesco or any other business I would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 People should be free to go about their lawful business. What's needed is proper punishment. 5 years for punching someone unprovoked might be a start. I've never punched anyone so will be safe. That chap at Birmingham yesterday, he'll not be punished. Maybe a fine and a suspended sentence at best. The latter being almost meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: People should be free to go about their lawful business. What's needed is proper punishment. 5 years for punching someone unprovoked might be a start. I've never punched anyone so will be safe. That chap at Birmingham yesterday, he'll not be punished. Maybe a fine and a suspended sentence at best. The latter being almost meaningless. That Birmingham fan will get 2 years in Winson Green i'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Loon plage said: That Birmingham fan will get 2 years in Winson Green i'd imagine. Is there a precedent for that sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: People should be free to go about their lawful business. What's needed is proper punishment. 5 years for punching someone unprovoked might be a start. I've never punched anyone so will be safe. That chap at Birmingham yesterday, he'll not be punished. Maybe a fine and a suspended sentence at best. The latter being almost meaningless. He's pleaded guilty and will be sentenced this afternoon. Hope he goes down, then he'll have a chance of improving his, lack of, boxing skills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said: He's pleaded guilty and will be sentenced this afternoon. Hope he goes down, then he'll have a chance of improving his, lack of, boxing skills! Maybe stick him in the ring for a televised boxing match. Bit of a laugh. Similarly, I think footballers who feign injury should be banned until such time as they participate in a rugby match. Give them some perspective on what a painful tackle actually feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: Maybe stick him in the ring for a televised boxing match. Bit of a laugh. Similarly, I think footballers who feign injury should be banned until such time as they participate in a rugby match. Give them some perspective on what a painful tackle actually feels like. Send them to Kavos on a shagging spree, then they'll find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Is there a precedent for that sentence? A number of fans have been jailed for attacking players but this one was a very high profile televised game so I reckon he will be made an example of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbo Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Saw the altercation along by The Tobacco Factory. All men that should be old enough to know better, 40s/50s. One Leeds fan goading some City fans. A bigger group formed, one teenage boy and his dad, and a chap in a wheelchair got caught up in it all. Some suspect punches thrown. One guy fell in the road and took a bit of a kicking. Another balding, unfit City fan ran at a Leeds fan. As soon as he was confronted he ducked and ran. Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Maybe stick him in the ring for a televised boxing match. Bit of a laugh. Similarly, I think footballers who feign injury should be banned until such time as they participate in a rugby match. Give them some perspective on what a painful tackle actually feels like. If he gets sent down, I dont think the Boxing ring will be the ring causing him problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Meanwhile, at St. Andrews... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/47521778?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5c8642918534010677b86405%26Cotterill suggests police should be armed%262019-03-11T11:16:38.938Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:0c8ecd7a-dcfb-4982-a325-fa283a463937&pinned_post_asset_id=5c8642918534010677b86405&pinned_post_type=share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Loon plage said: A number of fans have been jailed for attacking players but this one was a very high profile televised game so I reckon he will be made an example of. I’m afraid that this tit is most probably PROUD of his actions. He will be telling his mates and his spawn proudly ‘look, that was ME that was’. What is needed is a severe (relegation esq) points deduction to the club he supports. That would make him be reviled by all genuine Birmingham supporters and send a clear message to any other tit thinking about doing the same thing that they would be damaging their club. The fans would ‘police themselves’ then - nobody wants a points deduction. Wont happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Loon plage said: A number of fans have been jailed for attacking players but this one was a very high profile televised game so I reckon he will be made an example of. His sentence will be governed to a large extend to whether he has a criminal record or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 14 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: People should be free to go about their lawful business. What's needed is proper punishment. 5 years for punching someone unprovoked might be a start. I've never punched anyone so will be safe. That chap at Birmingham yesterday, he'll not be punished. Maybe a fine and a suspended sentence at best. The latter being almost meaningless. 14 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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