Davefevs Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Events on the pitch and off the pitch and rumours in between perhaps starting to show a disconnect through the hierarchy. Not one for believing rumours per se, but of course there will be the “no smoke without fire” thoughts going round. A few things for context - you decide how true, how significant. You decide whether are linkage between them. I’m not stirring (honestly), I’m heading to a conclusion / question...just need a bit of patience: No striker signing in the window despite us in the hunt for a couple, but rivals do business Semenyo return from Newport loan amid rumours of 1) Chelsea bids, 2) SL wants him back 3) LJ wants him back 4) club want him back under the radar, etc LJ quick to point out that clubs have shown interest in him during online fans forum Playing certain players regardless of form / fatigue levels Playing players for one game and then dropping them Players falling down the pecking order, e.g. Taylor, Eliasson, Pisano at different times LJ and Macca arguing big time last night Mark Ashton’s video last night LJ’s interviews increasingly sound pressured when he has been so on top of things of late etc (there are probably lots of other things magnified in a 6 game run without a win) Ok, scene set. Most of you know I’ve been critical of LJ over a long while, but have been much more content of late. Believe it or not, 6 games without a win, I’m still content. We are 7th with a game in hand. The 15 game unbeaten run has levelled out, we are in a great position....still. So yeah, I’m still happy - a bit worried about form obviously, but realistic. What if I asked - is LJ’s time running out? What if I asked - is LJ being undermined from above (MA and / or SL)? Has LJ worked out that this job is not what he thought it was...and that’s why his time us running out? So you may’ve Thought I was heading towards an LJ bashing....but I'm not....i’m asking has he recognised his naivety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 All seems to point back to why coppell walked so quickly. Does SL Undermine the manager by sticking his nose into footballing affairs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownendRed97 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I think LJ is definitely feeling the pressure now after SL said he wants play offs this year (he said this before Christmas and before the unbeaten run). I think he’s panicking a bit and running out of options, but hopefully this break will settle things down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 @Davefevs LJ and macca arguing last night? What happened there? I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 @Davefevs Could you tell what LJ and JM were arguing about re subs last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: All seems to point back to why coppell walked so quickly. Does SL Undermine the manager by sticking his nose into footballing affairs ? If you ever happen to bump in to Cotts I suggest you ask him for his thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Spoons said: @Davefevs LJ and macca arguing last night? What happened there? I missed that. Big argument about subs. A few bits on Twitter, but here’s Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Events on the pitch and off the pitch and rumours in between perhaps starting to show a disconnect through the hierarchy. Not one for believing rumours per se, but of course there will be the “no smoke without fire” thoughts going round. A few things for context - you decide how true, how significant. You decide whether are linkage between them. I’m not stirring (honestly), I’m heading to a conclusion / question...just need a bit of patience: No striker signing in the window despite us in the hunt for a couple, but rivals do business Semenyo return from Newport loan amid rumours of 1) Chelsea bids, 2) SL wants him back 3) LJ wants him back 4) club want him back under the radar, etc LJ quick to point out that clubs have shown interest in him during online fans forum Playing certain players regardless of form / fatigue levels Playing players for one game and then dropping them Players falling down the pecking order, e.g. Taylor, Eliasson, Pisano at different times LJ and Macca arguing big time last night Mark Ashton’s video last night LJ’s interviews increasingly sound pressured when he has been so on top of things of late etc (there are probably lots of other things magnified in a 6 game run without a win) Ok, scene set. Most of you know I’ve been critical of LJ over a long while, but have been much more content of late. Believe it or not, 6 games without a win, I’m still content. We are 7th with a game in hand. The 15 game unbeaten run has levelled out, we are in a great position....still. So yeah, I’m still happy - a bit worried about form obviously, but realistic. What if I asked - is LJ’s time running out? What if I asked - is LJ being undermined from above (MA and / or SL)? Has LJ worked out that this job is not what he thought it was...and that’s why his time us running out? So you may’ve Thought I was heading towards an LJ bashing....but I'm not....i’m asking has he recognised his naivety? This is ....the story of two families- the Johnsons and the Lansdowns where in the last episode Mark Ashton was about to commit suicide but killed Magnússon instead. Meanwhile, Jon wanted his Dad's money but ended up with a draw and Lee wanted a better season than his Dad and ended up less successful than Torquay. Confused..... you will be. This is another episode of SOAP: BCFC SOAP. ( one for the oldies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Big argument about subs. A few bits on Twitter, but here’s Facebook. Extremely silly question…is Macca the same height as LJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: This is ....the story of two families- the Johnsons and the Lansdowns where in the last episode Mark Ashton was about to commit suicide but killed Magnússon instead. Meanwhile, Jon wanted his Dad's money but ended up with a draw and Lee wanted a better season than his Dad and ended up less successful than Torquay. Confused..... you will be. This is another episode of SOAP: BCFC SOAP. ( one for the oldies) Who killed HM? Sounds a bit like Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said: Who killed HM? Sounds a bit like Dallas Tune in for the next episode.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Tune in for the next episode.... Marina Dolman as Miss Ellie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Sounds Pemboesque. Neither Pembo or Macalister have to answer directly to SL. LJ does that for them. However having seen this sort of thing before in business, the adage shit rolls down hill will apply. JM is now on days to do for a public spat with LJ and I don’t remember Pembo going that far. As for all the other stuff earlier re conspiracy theories and Chairman interference in team selection etc I don’t see it. I do see SL telling LJ what he wants and LJ having to comply but from a business perspective not team management. Shit rolling down hill again. Macalister has no idea what SL says to LJ but it’s clear LJ needs to do something soon with results or have Macalister paid off. It worked last time! CAN SOMEONE POST A LINK TO THIS ASHTON THING? Thanks RO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Sounds Pemboesque. Neither Pembo or Macalister have to answer directly to SL. LJ does that for them. However having seen this sort of thing before in business, the adage shit rolls down hill will apply. JM is now on days to do for a public spat with LJ and I don’t remember Pembo going that far. As for all the other stuff earlier re conspiracy theories and Chairman interference in team selection etc I don’t see it. I do see SL telling LJ what he wants and LJ having to comply but from a business perspective not team management. Shit rolling down hill again. Macalister has no idea what SL says to LJ but it’s clear LJ needs to do something soon with results or have Macalister paid off. It worked last time! CAN SOMEONE POST A LINK TO THIS ASHTON THING? Thanks RO it's on That video thread. Quite a strange interview with MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Who killed HM? Sounds a bit like Dallas Hopefully when the next series (aka season) starts it begins with Cotts (aka Bobby) waking up and we find his sacking and the entire LJ/MA era was a dream and Cotts carries on from where we were - completes the signings of McGuire and Grey- and we go onwards and upwards with our winning 3-5-2 formation storming the league! The only distraction from our winning ways is the mystery of who shot RR - spoiler= nearly everyone had a motive for shutting him up.......permanently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Jeez.......... this thread......... Full wild speculation and conjecture that adds up to bugger all. So LJ and Macca had a spate - so what? Surely that’s a sign of respect between them? Doesn’t anybody argue with their manager? I know I did.....and I had a long and successful career. It means nothing.....other than they disagree on on maybe tactics and/or substitutions......... Im delighted they had a disagreement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Jeez.......... this thread......... Full wild speculation and conjecture that adds up to bugger all. So LJ and Macca had a spate - so what? Surely that’s a sign of respect between them? Doesn’t anybody argue with their manager? I know I did.....and I had a long and successful career. It means nothing.....other than they disagree on on maybe tactics and/or substitutions......... Im delighted they had a disagreement! What's a spate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 JM and LJ do get on ....fact They won’t agree on everything, who does? I run a football team with my mate and we had a row last week about formations and team selection, it doesn’t mean that I don’t get on with him , far from it. Having said that I did notice the players barking back at LJ when he had a go at them on Saturday which I haven’t seen before ( pack and Webster ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, CodeRed said: What's a spate ? Robbored had a SPATE of comments that were complete bollocks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, CodeRed said: What's a spate ? You don’t know? It means a sudden, almost overwhelming, outpouring: a spate of angry words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: JM and LJ do get on ....fact They won’t agree on everything, who does? I run a football team with my mate and we had a row last week about formations and team selection, it doesn’t mean that I don’t get on with him , far from it. Having said that I did notice the players barking back at LJ when he had a go at them on Saturday which I haven’t seen before ( pack and Webster ) Webster again last night too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Robbored had a SPATE of comments that were complete bollocks . So you don’t know what a spate is either.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Webster again last night too. And that shows the players care. I like to see that kind of exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I would hope that players and coaches were having a go at each other. If any of them were happy with that performance then we really would be in the brown stuff. They should be feeling pressure because they are playing at the top end of the championship and had put themselves n a position to have a real go for the play offs. The last month has seen us fall away, and put in some woeful performances. If there has not been pressure ( SL on LJ, LJ on his coaching team and the players) then we don't deserve to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: So you don’t know what a spate is either.......... Exactly what I said . Here’s the definition for you. As you do post bollocks in quick succession I think it’s rather apt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Exactly what I said . Here’s the definition for you. As you do post bollocks in quick succession I think it’s rather apt One definition of several......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Surely @Robbored meant 'spat' in that there was a spat between player and Manager? Surely Fammy also didn't mean his spat? #lost in translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: One definition of several......... Pretty consistent definition across many dictionary website.. you might need to concede spate was the wrong word, and that you really meant spat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I’m wondering if LJ calling out o dowda after the Norwich game had a negative impact between LJ and the rest of the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: I’m wondering if LJ calling out o dowda after the Norwich game had a negative impact between LJ and the rest of the dressing room Possibly, but think Taylor being behind Semenyo would be an unpopular decision in the dressing room both Preston and Leeds. From the times I've seen the squad together, he is the one who creates the fun environment. He appears to be generally liked by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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