Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Would Sean O’Driscoll have done the same or better decent job that LJ is doing had he had the same amount of time and limited resources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Stupid question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, nickolas said: Stupid question! Not really.....Just like LJ, SoD a deep thinker about the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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REDLEE Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 We were on a one way ticket to league 2 under him. I doubt he'd have done the job LJ is doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 No I dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 He had the best attack in league one and was still taking us down. No chance we'd have had the same achievements under him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, REDLEE said: We were on a one way ticket to league 2 under him. I doubt he'd have done the job LJ is doing! So was LJ in his first season in charge....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: So was LJ in his first season in charge....... LJ’s seasons have all been in the Championship. Even if SOD had kept us up in League One, I’m not convinced he would have got us promoted as quickly - and certainly not as emphatically - as SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Robbored said: Would Sean O’Driscoll have done the same or better decent job that LJ is doing had he had the same amount of time and limited resources? Limited resources, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I think the telling thing about sod is that hes barely worked in club football since, he had a few months coachjng at liverpool, but no one has gone for him in a head coach role since he left us as far as i know. Hes from the old school, and his time has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rich said: Limited resources, really? Of course. When has LJ made a marquee signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Of course. When has LJ made a marquee signing? Or put another way ; How many times has LJ signed a player for a club record fee ? At least twice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I think it was too late in his career, he tailed off massively at Doncaster IIRC then failed at Forest and then failed here. What he did for a decade at Bournemouth and Doncaster was superb, but it's much harder when expectations rise, they start booing you when you're 6th... Edit - I remember at the time I was really hyped for him coming. I thought he would transform us into a fun hard working mid table championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Of course. When has LJ made a marquee signing? He's not the gas manager you know. Ok he's not had unlimited funds but, he's been backed by the owner more than any manager in our history, even taking inflation into account. Marquee signings, for us = Fammy, Baker, Webster and the money wasted on players not making an impact or, so say bought for the future and still to make an impression, is not a small figure either. It's how it's been spent not on whom. We could have invested in recruitment for finding younger players and not spunked out millions on nearly old/good enough players and instead spent on the first team. Just because other teams have spent more on strikers, doesn't mean he hasn't been well supported. Evidently we had deals agreed for top strikers as well, which would have been marquee signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Or put another way ; How many times has LJ signed a player for a club record fee ? At least twice . Hardly a marquee signing tho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANWRENBCFC4LIFE Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 The man who said Albert Adomah and called him a luxury player and didn’t know what to do with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rich said: He's not the gas manager you know. Ok he's not had unlimited funds but, he's been backed by the owner more than any manager in our history, even taking inflation into account. Marquee signings, for us = Fammy, Baker, Webster and the money wasted on players not making an impact or, so say bought for the future and still to make an impression, is not a small figure either. It's how it's been spent not on whom. We could have invested in recruitment for finding younger players and not spunked out millions on nearly old/good enough players and instead spent on the first team. Just because other teams have spent more on strikers, doesn't mean he hasn't been well supported. Evidently we had deals agreed for top strikers as well, which would have been marquee signings. Signing youngsters and developing them is a significant part of the strategy. Obviously history tells us that many don’t make the grade but how can anyone predict who makes the grade and those that won’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Hardly a marquee signing tho.... That’s because you’d never heard of him. Plenty of us had though. £5m+ don’t firget. Tomlin was a marquee signing. I think SOD might’ve been a useful DOF for Lee. Good coach who understood value for money. Would’ve made a good footballing middle-man, between LJ and MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Signing youngsters and developing them is a significant part of the strategy. Obviously history tells us that many don’t make the grade but how can anyone predict who makes the grade and those that won’t? Being professional in ones assessment of players is prudent, I would have thought. It would seem that buying players, as opposed to scouting and picking them up for nothing is the route our club has taken and is yet to really bare any fruit, for that level of investment. Seems strange that very few of our relatively big money young signings have actually got anywhere near the first team. Those that did, went in as part of the squad virtually straight away, Patterson, O'Dowda, Brownhill, Elliason is one that is gradually breaking through, Walsh is one where the jury is out. The majority of those gamble signings seem nowhere near and in danger of being offloaded permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, Robbored said: Of course. When has LJ made a marquee signing? Would we really want a striker from Doncaster though? (hmm, maybe!) Joking aside am I alone on here who really dislikes the term 'marquee signing, footballer, etc' where the **** dud that description come from, wtf does it really mean?...How did it become normal to use such ridiculous terms in 'modern' football ?It's another bit of bull shit that should be confined to door to door vacuum salesmen's conferences. What a load of shite some football supporters appear to willingly adopt nowadays … Marquee signings, my f'ing arse, that term should mean graffiti 'taggers' at The Mem as far as I'm concerned.. I hate the term anyway, and those who use it get right up my sodding nose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s because you’d never heard of him. Plenty of us had though. £5m+ don’t firget. ** Tomlin was a marquee signing. I think SOD might’ve been a useful DOF for Lee. Good coach who understood value for money. Would’ve made a good footballing middle-man, between LJ and MA. ** meaning as big as a tent, I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: Would we really want a striker from Doncaster though? (hmm, maybe!) Joking aside am I alone on here who really dislikes the term 'marquee signing, footballer, etc' where the **** dud that description come from, wtf does it really mean?...How did it become normal to use such ridiculous terms in 'modern' football ?It's another bit of bull shit that should be confined to door to door vacuum salesmen's conferences. What a load of shite some football supporters appear to willingly adopt nowadays … Marquee signings, my f'ing arse, that term should mean graffiti 'taggers' at The Mem as far as I'm concerned.. I hate the term anyway, and those who use it get right up my sodding nose.. Not my favourite term either but I used it to describe a ‘big and well known name’ Famara is our record signing at £5.3m - very little in terms of Championship signings. Bottom line - that type of ‘big’ name comes with wage demands that City won’t match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not my favourite term either but I used it to describe a ‘big and well known name’ Famara is our record signing at £5.3m - very little in terms of Championship signings. Bottom line - that type of ‘big’ name comes with wage demands that City won’t match. Interesting thought on wages given our wage bill is higher than the team now 2nd in our league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just wanted to remind the OP how he responded to my thread with “Hypothetical Question” in the title. just as well most of us on here don’t employ double standards and respond to posts properly like I did a bit earlier. Robbo - perhaps have a 10 second pause before hitting copy and paste. You can post some decent stuff. Why not give it a go. Unless you are desperately seeking the attention to confirm the words under your forum name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Just wanted to remind the OP how he responded to my thread with “Hypothetical Question” in the title. just as well most of us on here don’t employ double standards and respond to posts properly like I did a bit earlier. Robbo - perhaps have a 10 second pause before hitting copy and paste. You can post some decent stuff. Why not give it a go. Unless you are desperately seeking the attention to confirm the words under your forum name. Spot on. Kettle and black. From our resident mental health professional. Couldn’t make it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: Spot on. Kettle and black. From our resident mental health professional. Couldn’t make it up Its a dull day for us City fans so I figured that I’ll play up to my otib reputation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Robbored said: Its a dull day for us City fans so I figured that I’ll play up to my otib reputation.... You really are too kind to us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: You really are too kind to us . No need to thank me Major.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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