Mr X Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Listening to Talksport this afternoon and Cauley Woodrow was saying that he's hoping to get in the England squad in the next couple of years! Can't see it happening myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Nothing wrong with having confidence in yourself but I think the men in the white coats might be outside his house if he thinks that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 @Davefevs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, hodge said: @Davefevs ....beat me to it! Dave did rate him highly for some reason.... 42 minutes ago, Mr X said: Listening to Talksport this afternoon and Cauley Woodrow was saying that he's hoping to get in the England squad in the next couple of years! Can't see it happening myself! Tiddlywinks squad? Or perhaps Robbored could get him fast tracked up the bowls pyramid to international level.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Gender fluidity's a wonderful thing, he'll do just fine in the Lionesses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlesh*t Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 As much as I don't think he has a chance, if Barry had made similar comments when playing non league we would have all probably said the same and laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's not like we've had any loanees who were very poor for us at this level, then improved drastically and went on to play for England. Well, if you don't count Danny Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 He has played for the highest level youth sides and is still young. Why would he say otherwise? Reckon he’d do well here at the moment and would be perfect cover and competition for Fam. Having a solid season in L1 and still think once he finds a home he will be a top championship striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Mr X said: Listening to Talksport this afternoon and Cauley Woodrow was saying that he's hoping to get in the England squad in the next couple of years! Can't see it happening myself! When I was younger I could have played for England but my paper round got in the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 He’s 24, and even I think England opportunities have passed him by, especially when you look at the crop younger than him. He didn’t play for the u21s for no reason, and there is a very decent Champ striker in there if he works hard enough. He just wasn’t given a chance here, strange seeing as we signed him on loan with an option to purchase too. I know Reid’s emergence hampered that, but we lost Diedhiou for a third of the season, and ended up knackering our players because people like Cauley wasn’t given minutes. He scored 2 plus 1 assist in the equivalent of 4 1/2 games!! I’m sure Cauley would’ve been a better option than Eisa, who is the same age (Eisa a tad older I think)...I doubt Barnsley paid more than £1.5m for him either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: He’s 24, and even I think England opportunities have passed him by, especially when you look at the crop younger than him. He didn’t play for the u21s for no reason, and there is a very decent Champ striker in there if he works hard enough. He just wasn’t given a chance here, strange seeing as we signed him on loan with an option to purchase too. I know Reid’s emergence hampered that, but we lost Diedhiou for a third of the season, and ended up knackering our players because people like Cauley wasn’t given minutes. He scored 2 plus 1 assist in the equivalent of 4 1/2 games!! I’m sure Cauley would’ve been a better option than Eisa, who is the same age (Eisa a tad older I think)...I doubt Barnsley paid more than £1.5m for him either!! CW would have been a better option that Eisa , simply because LJ gave him a few chances , where as Eisa has been a completely pointless signing (so far). He may not have been given a long run , which 2nd string striker has been recently, but I just didn't see anything in him that would make LJ play him. Perhaps game time at L1 level will kick start his career , he may well prove a decent Championship striker in time , although I think England is a massive stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: He’s 24, and even I think England opportunities have passed him by, especially when you look at the crop younger than him. He didn’t play for the u21s for no reason, and there is a very decent Champ striker in there if he works hard enough. He just wasn’t given a chance here, strange seeing as we signed him on loan with an option to purchase too. I know Reid’s emergence hampered that, but we lost Diedhiou for a third of the season, and ended up knackering our players because people like Cauley wasn’t given minutes. He scored 2 plus 1 assist in the equivalent of 4 1/2 games!! I’m sure Cauley would’ve been a better option than Eisa, who is the same age (Eisa a tad older I think)...I doubt Barnsley paid more than £1.5m for him either!! A good illustration of why signing Eisa was an incredibly odd decision that becomes more odd as the weeks and games, go by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: He’s 24, and even I think England opportunities have passed him by, especially when you look at the crop younger than him. He didn’t play for the u21s for no reason, and there is a very decent Champ striker in there if he works hard enough. He just wasn’t given a chance here, strange seeing as we signed him on loan with an option to purchase too. I know Reid’s emergence hampered that, but we lost Diedhiou for a third of the season, and ended up knackering our players because people like Cauley wasn’t given minutes. He scored 2 plus 1 assist in the equivalent of 4 1/2 games!! I’m sure Cauley would’ve been a better option than Eisa, who is the same age (Eisa a tad older I think)...I doubt Barnsley paid more than £1.5m for him either!! I agree. Both Woodrow and Eisa fall into the “wasteful signings” category that has been a feature of recent seasons. It’s very odd how we sign players (and in Eisa’s case for quite a hefty fee) who seem to be very quickly deemed to be not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 he was never given a run in the team. like a lot of players we have. lee changes the team far to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Offside said: I agree. Both Woodrow and Eisa fall into the “wasteful signings” category that has been a feature of recent seasons. It’s very odd how we sign players (and in Eisa’s case for quite a hefty fee) who seem to be very quickly deemed to be not good enough. Upon signing Eisa I wrote on this forum: "My work colleague coached him as a lad with London Schoolboys and took him for his first club. Greenwich Borough who took him as an adult (basically bust this term) get a lifesaving £100k from the deal. As to quality he's apparently 'useful' but my mate would be astounded were he to cut it at Championship level." After which most on this forum castigated me for writing such. But what do I know, other than my mate (who knows a thing or two about coaching at lower level) and Eisa's first club punched massively above their weight again today in securing a place at Wembley in the FA Vase final? In short: the reason the Eisas and Woodrows of this world are quickly deemed not good enough at Championship level is because they never were, aren't and never will be. So go ask Ashton, Johnson et al why they frequently get it so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 23/03/2019 at 22:38, BTRFTG said: Upon signing Eisa I wrote on this forum: "My work colleague coached him as a lad with London Schoolboys and took him for his first club. Greenwich Borough who took him as an adult (basically bust this term) get a lifesaving £100k from the deal. As to quality he's apparently 'useful' but my mate would be astounded were he to cut it at Championship level." After which most on this forum castigated me for writing such. But what do I know, other than my mate (who knows a thing or two about coaching at lower level) and Eisa's first club punched massively above their weight again today in securing a place at Wembley in the FA Vase final? In short: the reason the Eisas and Woodrows of this world are quickly deemed not good enough at Championship level is because they never were, aren't and never will be. So go ask Ashton, Johnson et al why they frequently get it so wrong? to be fair - Isthmian League to L2 to City has been done before in the form of Adomah and Bolasie. Some you win, some you don't. C'est la vie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 23/03/2019 at 06:01, Offside said: I agree. Both Woodrow and Eisa fall into the “wasteful signings” category that has been a feature of recent seasons. It’s very odd how we sign players (and in Eisa’s case for quite a hefty fee) who seem to be very quickly deemed to be not good enough. Wasteful signings. At least we only paid wages and a loan fee for Woodrow. Adelekun, Elliason, Elisa, Moore now there is some wedge. However selling Webster will cover that. Some ya win some ya don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Wasteful signings. At least we only paid wages and a loan fee for Woodrow. Adelekun, Elliason, Elisa, Moore now there is some wedge. However selling Webster will cover that. Some ya win some ya don’t. Dont know what the ratio is of good to poor signings, but we dont have that many who are worth much to cover the costs of the poor ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, simon uk said: Dont know what the ratio is of good to poor signings, but we dont have that many who are worth much to cover the costs of the poor ones! Exactly. However Odowda has value as does Brownhill right now. Diehdou about what we gave Elliason see above. Who else is there we bought in the last three seasons that has a current resale above purchase? probably Taylor but who else? Any offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Exactly. However Odowda has value as does Brownhill right now. Diehdou about what we gave Elliason see above. Who else is there we bought in the last three seasons that has a current resale above purchase? probably Taylor but who else? Any offers Brownhill odowda kelly and webster are the obvious ones, and we would probably see our money back on fam. Taylor i wouldnt expect a championship club to go for him, just not enough goals as a striker, and most league 1 clubs would find it tough to meet his wages? Theres a lot of deadwood built up over the last few years who just havent made much of an impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, simon uk said: Brownhill odowda kelly and webster are the obvious ones, and we would probably see our money back on fam. Taylor i wouldnt expect a championship club to go for him, just not enough goals as a striker, and most league 1 clubs would find it tough to meet his wages? Theres a lot of deadwood built up over the last few years who just havent made much of an impact In some respects I agree. The point from Ashton and LJs view is players ready to stake a claim next season. Obviously Vyner, although not a signing, shifting Others would allow Kelly to play at CB for example Da Silva to switch left Elliason to get a start and fingers crossed Adelakun Eisa among others come good. The point is they need a higher ratio of winners as the only money we made has been with Coterills team so far. edit! Above I meant Engvall Not Elliason but we didn’t even touch on the lad from Everton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mozo Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 23/03/2019 at 09:50, Davefevs said: He’s 24, and even I think England opportunities have passed him by, especially when you look at the crop younger than him. He didn’t play for the u21s for no reason, and there is a very decent Champ striker in there if he works hard enough. He just wasn’t given a chance here, strange seeing as we signed him on loan with an option to purchase too. I know Reid’s emergence hampered that, but we lost Diedhiou for a third of the season, and ended up knackering our players because people like Cauley wasn’t given minutes. He scored 2 plus 1 assist in the equivalent of 4 1/2 games!! I’m sure Cauley would’ve been a better option than Eisa, who is the same age (Eisa a tad older I think)...I doubt Barnsley paid more than £1.5m for him either!! Yeah, I dont think Abraham, Rashford and Greenwood will be worrying about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: If you're only going to score 1 goal you may as well make it a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 we never gave the lad a run of games. treated him very badly in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I thought he was pretty poor for us except the Derby game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 22/03/2019 at 19:34, joe jordans teeth said: Nothing wrong with having confidence in yourself but I think the men in the white coats might be outside his house if he thinks that Nothing wrong at all.... cant wait to get in the squad either I have just as much chance that’s for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Cauley for England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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